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Post by mayhews on Jan 7, 2019 12:25:38 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board .
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Jan 7, 2019 12:28:08 GMT
Other side of coin if he does well ? Then 2 1/2 contract makes sense ?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 7, 2019 12:29:53 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . and we get into the playoff's..... what then ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2019 12:30:08 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . Does this really need a new thread? We don't know any terms of the contract, you'd hope the first term is that he needs to keep up or otherwise his contract will be cancelled with just a limited pay off.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Jan 7, 2019 12:30:11 GMT
More importantly contracts in football mean what nothing look at D.C.?
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Post by mayhews on Jan 7, 2019 12:31:42 GMT
Other side of coin if he does well ? Then 2 1/2 contract makes sense ? Yes that's true, but it's a big gamble imo . If he keeps us up then that's when he should be rewarded with a longer contract , it makes more sense.
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Post by mayhews on Jan 7, 2019 12:33:12 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . and we get into the playoff's..... what then ? Reward him of course. Let's hope he does .
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Jan 7, 2019 12:34:14 GMT
Other side of coin if he does well ? Then 2 1/2 contract makes sense ? Yes that's true, but it's a big gamble imo . If he keeps us up then that's when he should be rewarded with a longer contract , it makes more sense. but if that happens bigger club could come in for him? That’s the problem difficult
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 7, 2019 12:42:34 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . So if they brought a new manager in wouldnt the same apply if we were relagated. Not sure any new external manager would want to work u till the end of the season only - minimum of a rolling year contract perhaps.
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Post by baggins on Jan 7, 2019 12:46:05 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . So bring in a new Manager, on a large salary with exactly the same contract clauses, if not worse for the Club, at the end of the season? Think GC appointment by the Board was far from a bad decision.
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Post by mayhews on Jan 7, 2019 12:46:05 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . So if they brought a new manager in wouldnt the same apply if we were relagated. Not sure any new external manager would want to work u till the end of the season only - minimum of a rolling year contract perhaps. Yes true, but because GC is already at the club and unproven as a manager , it just seemed to me to make more sense to prove himself to the end of the season.
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Post by mayhews on Jan 7, 2019 12:48:15 GMT
I'm happy that GC has been given the job , but in my opinion it should have been to the end of the season and not a 2 and a half years contract. What happens if the unthinkable happens and we get relegated are they going to entrust GC to bring us straight back up? Most probably not , which means they will have to pay him off. Poor decision by the board . So bring in a new Manager, on a large salary with exactly the same contract clauses, if not worse for the Club, at the end of the season? Think GC appointment by the Board was far from a bad decision. Did you read my post? I didn't say bring in a manager just give him to the end of the season.
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Post by baggins on Jan 7, 2019 12:50:19 GMT
So if they brought a new manager in wouldnt the same apply if we were relagated. Not sure any new external manager would want to work u till the end of the season only - minimum of a rolling year contract perhaps. Yes true, but because GC is already at the club and unproven as a manager , it just seemed to me to make more sense to prove himself to the end of the season. Maybe GC said give me the 2.5 year deal else he's off. We'd be right in it if that happened.
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Post by baggins on Jan 7, 2019 12:51:39 GMT
So bring in a new Manager, on a large salary with exactly the same contract clauses, if not worse for the Club, at the end of the season? Think GC appointment by the Board was far from a bad decision. Did you read my post? I didn't say bring in a manager just give him to the end of the season. Yes, of course I read your post. But contract deals are just that. Deals.
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Post by Slide away on Jan 7, 2019 12:52:56 GMT
I think that it is good from the club as long as they have mitigated the risk if we were to go down (ie- a relegation release clause from the clubs side on the 2.5 years). If Coughlan keeps us up from the situation that we were in then In my eyes he has earned the right to have a crack at it longer term. BUT...I cant stop thinking back to 'that' DC interview where he said that there would be budget cuts over the next 12 months, and wondering if the board have used this as a cost cutting exercise...
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 7, 2019 13:02:38 GMT
So if they brought a new manager in wouldnt the same apply if we were relagated. Not sure any new external manager would want to work u till the end of the season only - minimum of a rolling year contract perhaps. Yes true, but because GC is already at the club and unproven as a manager , it just seemed to me to make more sense to prove himself to the end of the season. I'm sure there would be clear stipulations in the contract should the team be heading for relagation within GC contract or any other experienced managers. No doubt they were in DCs 5 year contract so a 'mutual agreement' communication was given on his departure. I think over 5 games GC deserves his chance as there was an immediate positive impact from the Sunderland game. The reality is we have some very hard games coming up now till the end of Feb and any manager is going to have his work cut out gaining points here. Time will tell but I really hope GC is a success as like DC he had to start somewhere.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2019 13:09:27 GMT
So bring in a new Manager, on a large salary with exactly the same contract clauses, if not worse for the Club, at the end of the season? Think GC appointment by the Board was far from a bad decision. Did you read my post? I didn't say bring in a manager just give him to the end of the season. As other posters have already pointed out on the main GC thread what player is going to sign a contract with us for 18+ months when the manager himself only has a 6 months contract. At the end of the day if GC's got a 2.5 year contract with no get out clauses it will be the owners paying up if they have to sack him not the fans. Perhaps it also means they don't intend selling up anytime soon!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 13:15:00 GMT
I think it is standard in manager's contracts in the FL that they only receive one year's pay as severance. That is not bad at all when you compare it to normal practices in the workplace. Most manager's don't last two years, so to get one years pay is really quite good.
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Post by baggins on Jan 7, 2019 13:19:59 GMT
I think it is standard in manager's contracts in the FL that they only receive one year's pay as severance. That is not bad at all when you compare it to normal practices in the workplace. Most manager's don't last two years, so to get one years pay is really quite good. Don't think that went that way for Mourinho who had his entire contract paid up to the sum of £24 mil. Unless you're excluding Premiership?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 13:24:01 GMT
I think it is standard in manager's contracts in the FL that they only receive one year's pay as severance. That is not bad at all when you compare it to normal practices in the workplace. Most manager's don't last two years, so to get one years pay is really quite good. Don't think that went that way for Mourinho who had his entire contract paid up to the sum of £24 mil. Unless you're excluding Premiership? I think the Prem is different to the FL.
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