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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 12:39:47 GMT
and failing to sign any creative players in January while letting Bennett leave was just madness. 100%. Utterly baffling. I’d have rather kept Bennett and not signed Ogogo if part of KB’s wages have gone towards that signing. Don’t get me wrong, I like Ogogo and can see what he offers, but he provides no more quality on the ball than we already had at the club. Sinclair can run around and make tackles all day. As for JCH, looks like a very handy targetman/link striker at this level, but not the goal scorer we needed to get us out of this mess. He needs a partner. Spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 12:40:39 GMT
I think the op makes a good point about playing long balls to the target man but not getting players around him to compete for knock downs. With the players we have at the club i think we should play long ball and press teams higher up the pitch despite the risks involved with that. Coughlan has improved the results but its strange that the team play in a very similar style to how we played under dc. We were never kick and rush under DC.
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Post by cookinongas on Feb 24, 2019 13:01:56 GMT
Ive just watched the lowlights on you tube and we look totally clueless and inept. We keep on about a striker or someone,anyone who can score goals but our defence looks dreadful too. We looked like we had lead boots on and couldn't really be bothered!! We have taken a giant leap backwards almost to when DC took over from John Ward
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Post by socrates on Feb 24, 2019 13:10:06 GMT
To me, Ollie Clarke has never been a creative midfielder. Never. Nor is he inconsistent; he does the same thing week after week. He does the hard part of midfield play, wins tackles, breaks up the opposition`s play, but then having done that and won possession of the ball, he`ll undo the good work by hopelessly giving it away. Then he has to turn and chase back towards his own goal. His forte used to be driving forward with the ball, then unleashing a rocket shot, but even that part of his game seems to have pretty much disappeared now. He’s decent alongside a playmaker but poor next to a ball winner. V Peterborough we played lines and olly ( the backbone of our midfield for the last successful four seasons and we had balance and played good football. It’s really not rocket science . Like I said yesterday in another thread I’d no more play two ball winners in the middle of a 442 than I would play lines and sercombe there in that formation. I like Cogs and his points per game is upper mid table so his start is hard to knock but I’m worried and now think that it’s down more to passion and fight than tactical knowledge. If he really is tactically stupid it won’t be long before the players realise this and the passionate battle cry from our manager falls on deaf ears.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 13:11:57 GMT
I think the op makes a good point about playing long balls to the target man but not getting players around him to compete for knock downs. With the players we have at the club i think we should play long ball and press teams higher up the pitch despite the risks involved with that. Coughlan has improved the results but its strange that the team play in a very similar style to how we played under dc. We were never kick and rush under DC. What i should of and meant to say was that our style of play when the opposition have possession is the same. We back off until the ball is in our half,keeping our shape etc. Perfectly legitimate style but exactly the same as under dc. We play more long ball under coughlan when we have the ball,thats true. If were going to hit the ball long maybe we need to push further up the pitch,including pressing opponents in their own half with more intent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 13:16:51 GMT
We were never kick and rush under DC. What i should of and meant to say was that our style of play when the opposition have possession is the same. We back off until the ball is in our half,keeping our shape etc. Perfectly legitimate style but exactly the same as under dc. We play more long ball under coughlan when we have the ball,thats true. If were going to hit the ball long maybe we need to push further up the pitch,including pressing opponents in their own half with more intent. Yeah, would agree with that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 13:24:59 GMT
To me, Ollie Clarke has never been a creative midfielder. Never. Nor is he inconsistent; he does the same thing week after week. He does the hard part of midfield play, wins tackles, breaks up the opposition`s play, but then having done that and won possession of the ball, he`ll undo the good work by hopelessly giving it away. Then he has to turn and chase back towards his own goal. His forte used to be driving forward with the ball, then unleashing a rocket shot, but even that part of his game seems to have pretty much disappeared now. He’s decent alongside a playmaker but poor next to a ball winner. V Peterborough we played lines and olly ( the backbone of our midfield for the last successful four seasons and we had balance and played good football. It’s really not rocket science . Like I said yesterday in another thread I’d no more play two ball winners in the middle of a 442 than I would play lines and sercombe there in that formation. I like Cogs and his points per game is upper mid table so his start is hard to knock but I’m worried and now think that it’s down more to passion and fight than tactical knowledge. If he really is tactically stupid it won’t be long before the players realise this and the passionate battle cry from our manager falls on deaf ears. Agree with every word of this. I hope passion is enough to keep us up, although am doubtful to be honest.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 24, 2019 13:47:10 GMT
100%. Utterly baffling. I’d have rather kept Bennett and not signed Ogogo if part of KB’s wages have gone towards that signing. Don’t get me wrong, I like Ogogo and can see what he offers, but he provides no more quality on the ball than we already had at the club. Sinclair can run around and make tackles all day. As for JCH, looks like a very handy targetman/link striker at this level, but not the goal scorer we needed to get us out of this mess. He needs a partner. Bennett getting absolutely slated on Swindon forum. I didn’t particularly rate Bennett, but at least he was a winger. At the moment our wing options are a winger, a central midfielder, a fullback, and any other player in the squad we shoehorn out there. It was a nonsense decision to let him go with no replacement.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Feb 24, 2019 14:57:45 GMT
GC picked a team to contain, for a home game that's unacceptable. To play O.Clarke on the reason of being fresher with no mid-week game is rubbish, he looked like he hadn't trained for the three weeks he was suspended.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 15:17:56 GMT
“Let’s have it roight “ as our leader would say ... We deserve to go down this season for our inept recruitment in the summer and pitiful home performances. We are one of the four worst teams in this division and I would not be surprised if we go down as the bottom club. Blame for me lies with Darrel Clarke who was proved to be out of his depth and his self proclaimed man management style was sterile. Sadly our Suited leadership group are a disgrace ... an absent owner, appalling blustering Chairman and bullshitting Other group of toadies around them. Clarke is away from it all with a very healthy bank balance whilst Coughlan stumbles and stutters from one week to the next.... Sad days but let’s be honest most of this squad will have watersed off at the end of the season on to their next pay packet and it’s only the fans who feel the real pain. We are a L2 team with non league facilities, local league standard Chairman with Premiership loyal fans. Have you hacked DC's bank account? Btw liked your opening line - reminds me of Alan Partridge. "Dares more to Ireland dan dis"
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 24, 2019 15:30:00 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve.
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Post by singupgas on Feb 24, 2019 15:50:39 GMT
I am not surprised by yesterday result..We have been poor most of the season, really only finding some form in last couple months.
Sunderland are a far superior side to us in all regards, I can imagine, GC and coachs knew it was a damage limitation game.
As everyone knows we are never going to compete with bigger clubs at top of the league whilst we are so behind off the pitch, on the pitch we could be an average league 1 side but no better.
I am not holding my breath on the owners taking us forward, not interested anymore in my opinion, I don't now have everything can be kept so secret and confidential that nobody knows about these mystery site wael is looking at. Wool over eyes. I feel more disconnected and concerned about the club now more so than when old regime was in charge.
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Post by kampucheagas on Feb 24, 2019 16:06:31 GMT
I agree the points return under DC was poor, but I think he would have turned it around. It was his first bad run as manager. We won’t continue at 1.4 points per game. This whole season has been one to forget..... odds on us facing DC next season in league 2? Why bother posting this nonsense there were no signs DC could have turned it round. If we all have to stop posting nonsense there might not be much to read anymore! Lighten up Just opinions My opinion is that DC deserved longer. He made some bad signings. He was young and learning. But In my opinion he would have learnt from his mistakes and come good second half of the season He will come back into management and prove successful again I’m sure. Just my opinion mind. Probably nonsense.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 24, 2019 16:09:25 GMT
Why bother posting this nonsense there were no signs DC could have turned it round. If we all have to stop posting nonsense there might not be much to read anymore! Lighten up Just opinions My opinion is that DC deserved longer. He made some bad signings. He was young and learning. But In my opinion he would have learnt from his mistakes and come good second half of the season He will come back into management and prove successful again I’m sure. Just my opinion mind. Probably nonsense. I agree with this, for what it’s worth. He had earned the right to have more time to turn it around.
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Post by Strange Gas on Feb 24, 2019 17:38:44 GMT
Why bother posting this nonsense there were no signs DC could have turned it round. If we all have to stop posting nonsense there might not be much to read anymore! Lighten up Just opinions My opinion is that DC deserved longer. He made some bad signings. He was young and learning. But In my opinion he would have learnt from his mistakes and come good second half of the season He will come back into management and prove successful again I’m sure. Just my opinion mind. Probably nonsense. All water under the bridge / spilt milk now of course. But I don't believe it is nonsense, although I do believe he wanted out and had given up in his own mind for whatever reason so change was pretty un avoidable. He will be a better manager for the change, but that can't help us now . . .
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Post by socrates on Feb 24, 2019 17:55:23 GMT
I am not surprised by yesterday result..We have been poor most of the season, really only finding some form in last couple months. Sunderland are a far superior side to us in all regards, I can imagine, GC and coachs knew it was a damage limitation game. As everyone knows we are never going to compete with bigger clubs at top of the league whilst we are so behind off the pitch, on the pitch we could be an average league 1 side but no better. I am not holding my breath on the owners taking us forward, not interested anymore in my opinion, I don't now have everything can be kept so secret and confidential that nobody knows about these mystery site wael is looking at. Wool over eyes. I feel more disconnected and concerned about the club now more so than when old regime was in charge. Although i agree with most of that just because Sunderland are superior to us doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have played our creative players and looked to take the game to them and try and win the match. Most sides that have done that at home v Sunderland have come away with a point. They’re the draw specialists in the division.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 24, 2019 18:00:29 GMT
Why bother posting this nonsense there were no signs DC could have turned it round. If we all have to stop posting nonsense there might not be much to read anymore! Lighten up Just opinions My opinion is that DC deserved longer. He made some bad signings. He was young and learning. But In my opinion he would have learnt from his mistakes and come good second half of the season He will come back into management and prove successful again I’m sure. Just my opinion mind. Probably nonsense. GC's come in and achieved results far better than we could have even dreamt DC obtaining but it's still looking odds on we'll get relegated, due to our appalling early season form under DC. Looking back we were probably virtually relegated by the time DC was sacked, as by then we had played most of the winnable home games.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 24, 2019 18:26:49 GMT
If we all have to stop posting nonsense there might not be much to read anymore! Lighten up Just opinions My opinion is that DC deserved longer. He made some bad signings. He was young and learning. But In my opinion he would have learnt from his mistakes and come good second half of the season He will come back into management and prove successful again I’m sure. Just my opinion mind. Probably nonsense. GC's come in and achieved results far better than we could have even dreamt DC obtaining but it's still looking odds on we'll get relegated, due to our appalling early season form under DC. Looking back we were probably virtually relegated by the time DC was sacked, as by then we had played most of the winnable home games. Topper I still think we can stay up, however our players are so inconsistent appreciate Steve K s report but one week Ollie C is great next week dross, and all the players are the same bar James Clarke who is consistent I would add Craig and Locks to that THD and Bonham. Maybe we need 3 5 2 at home and 442 away, our form since January last year was dire and the signings have not come off. Going down to the wire my nerves can't stand it.
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Post by romangas on Feb 24, 2019 18:39:38 GMT
Watched this on the live stream. SAFC, for me, were bang average and we let them play average football. They fed off our mistakes and lack of playmaking bigtime.
This forum is turning into Darryl Part 2, all our yesterdays revisited week in week out since he has been gone. GC was hailed as the saviour ten weeks ago... Now he is starting to get flak just like DC.
If GC keeps to his word in the " they all have to play for the shirt " dept, he will keep us up.
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Post by aghast on Feb 24, 2019 19:02:24 GMT
GC picked a team to contain, for a home game that's unacceptable. To play O.Clarke on the reason of being fresher with no mid-week game is rubbish, he looked like he hadn't trained for the three weeks he was suspended. Would you have thrown caution to the wind and gone for it against Sunderland and their expensive and successful squad? I know I wouldn't. We could have been thumped 4 or 5-0. I do realise the cautious approach didn't work either, but that's because we're rubbish and would have lost no matter what.
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