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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2019 12:33:49 GMT
Just for the sake of argument: Decision in December on GC can only be declared successful is we stay up. Otherwise it didn't pay off. Your statement is a guess, but you're talking like it is fact. I personally don't really see the leadership off the pitch, but am open to hearing your argument. You can be a Bristol Rovers supporter without believing Wael/Starnes are messiahs. RE; the ground, there is no evidence to suggest we will get a ground under the current ownership. Just for the fun of it, is it not equally as destructive/damaging to a club to have blind optimism? I have every confidence Cogs will keep us up and we will be safe by mid April, under the current manager I think we would have gone down. Commercial look at where we are now under Tom Gorrringe and you can see what he learned at Brighton. The 1883 club end of season awards last season was brilliant and I look forward to the evening on the 10th April again. You only have to look at Plymouth and see what Martyn helped do their, a Div1 club with no real money but a half decent stadium and with his experience we are moving forward. Off the pitch they are trying so hard on the new stadium front, I am not saying anymore than this, I’m not a Banned word making stuff up and I don’t know what the plans are. But I have introduced people to the board, someone of major significance who someone like Gashead81 on this forum can back me up on because I introduced the person to him at the Wimbledon home game. I do as well, but it doesn't necessarily mean he will, is all I'm saying. Ultimately until the season is over, we can't say whether it was successful or not. I agree about TG but our commercial director should be the one who's driving "leadership off the pitch". I personally don't really see what Starnes is doing, apart from one fluff interview which he had time to prepare his answers before, instead of being in front of fans. Plymouth fans hate the bloke & said he was an awful CEO, so I'm not sure I can agree or disagree with your statement. Tbh, apart from TG right now, we're moving backwards IMO. I do hope you're right roady & I hope I haven't caused any offense to you, but without being in the know, I can only judge what I see. Too many times have Rovers fans been strung along on a dream, rumours on a forum, being promised that "we're doing everything we can" - with ultimately no result.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 12:35:17 GMT
Anyone setting up a Wael Bingo game for tonight?
"these things take time" "working hard behind the scenes" "I can't talk about that" "I am committed" "unfortunate" "confidentiality agreement" "I get on great with the Manager"
Any more?
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Post by baggins on Mar 14, 2019 12:41:18 GMT
Anyone setting up a Wael Bingo game for tonight? "these things take time" "working hard behind the scenes" "I can't talk about that" "I am committed" "unfortunate" "confidentiality agreement" "I get on great with the Manager" Any more? "What's a Fox?"
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Post by Icegas on Mar 14, 2019 12:53:44 GMT
Let’s all slag off the bloke again who is trying his best to make this club a proper football club. Yes they have made mistakes but Wael Al Qadi is as a big a fan of this club like all of us are. I know and trust he’s doing the best he can for our club and we are in safe hands under his leadership. We may not have a shiny new ground yet but he will preserve our Div1 status whilst he is owner of this club and we can’t say this of Geoff Dunford and Nick Higgs, only Dennis Dunford. If they don’t build us a new ground I truly believe whatever happens they will leave us in Div1 and this club must preserve its Div1 status. Yes we are losing money, yes the debts are going up but as a business and commercially we have never been in better shape. Martyn Starnes is working hard in the background and this is an experienced football man running the club. Give them the benefit of the doubt, Wael Al Qadi will not leave this club in the sh**. With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who the owners are.From where we are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level.
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Post by baggins on Mar 14, 2019 13:04:43 GMT
Let’s all slag off the bloke again who is trying his best to make this club a proper football club. Yes they have made mistakes but Wael Al Qadi is as a big a fan of this club like all of us are. I know and trust he’s doing the best he can for our club and we are in safe hands under his leadership. We may not have a shiny new ground yet but he will preserve our Div1 status whilst he is owner of this club and we can’t say this of Geoff Dunford and Nick Higgs, only Dennis Dunford. If they don’t build us a new ground I truly believe whatever happens they will leave us in Div1 and this club must preserve its Div1 status. Yes we are losing money, yes the debts are going up but as a business and commercially we have never been in better shape. Martyn Starnes is working hard in the background and this is an experienced football man running the club. Give them the benefit of the doubt, Wael Al Qadi will not leave this club in the sh**. With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. When was the last time we were higher than Lg1?
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 14, 2019 13:07:35 GMT
With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. When was the last time we were higher than Lg1? Dare to dream.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 14, 2019 13:07:39 GMT
Let’s all slag off the bloke again who is trying his best to make this club a proper football club. Yes they have made mistakes but Wael Al Qadi is as a big a fan of this club like all of us are. I know and trust he’s doing the best he can for our club and we are in safe hands under his leadership. We may not have a shiny new ground yet but he will preserve our Div1 status whilst he is owner of this club and we can’t say this of Geoff Dunford and Nick Higgs, only Dennis Dunford. If they don’t build us a new ground I truly believe whatever happens they will leave us in Div1 and this club must preserve its Div1 status. Yes we are losing money, yes the debts are going up but as a business and commercially we have never been in better shape. Martyn Starnes is working hard in the background and this is an experienced football man running the club. Give them the benefit of the doubt, Wael Al Qadi will not leave this club in the sh**. With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. Here hear. Surely Everyone can see the ground is a shambles, when lower teams than us pass us by and we are still in our cowshed of a ground maybe then people will see. The club needs better to stay relevant, the facilities are dire. I would also be embarrassed to own a sport team where the players need to clean up before they start training. Staying up in league 1 is not a success, I accept we aren't going to do great things every season, if at all, I expect mid table with the things the way they are. It's getting boring going on about it really now.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 14, 2019 13:08:30 GMT
With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. When was the last time we were higher than Lg1? That mentality is the problem...why don't we aim to be higher than league 1?
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Post by baggins on Mar 14, 2019 13:14:52 GMT
When was the last time we were higher than Lg1? That mentality is the problem...why don't we aim to be higher than league 1? You saying my mentality is holding us back? We always aim to be higher but unless you've got a spare billion or two just hanging around what else do you expect?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 13:15:22 GMT
With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. Here hear. Surely Everyone can see the ground is a shambles, when lower teams than us pass us by and we are still in our cowshed of a ground maybe then people will see. The club needs better to stay relevant, the facilities are dire. I would also be embarrassed to own a sport team where the players need to clean up before they start training. Staying up in league 1 is not a success, I accept we aren't going to do great things every season, if at all, I expect mid table with the things the way they are. It's getting boring going on about it really now. I have two examples that stand out for me. First, I took my seven year old Son to the Mem last season for the first time. When we got there, he said, "I thought we were coming to a proper football ground". Second, while I was watching Rovers on iFollow, a German friend of mine called in. After watching the game for a few minutes, he enquired if I were really watching Rovers, because he thought they "were a professional team that played in a proper ground" and not what he saw on the screen !
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Post by baggins on Mar 14, 2019 13:18:39 GMT
Here hear. Surely Everyone can see the ground is a shambles, when lower teams than us pass us by and we are still in our cowshed of a ground maybe then people will see. The club needs better to stay relevant, the facilities are dire. I would also be embarrassed to own a sport team where the players need to clean up before they start training. Staying up in league 1 is not a success, I accept we aren't going to do great things every season, if at all, I expect mid table with the things the way they are. It's getting boring going on about it really now. I have two examples that stand out for me. First, I took my seven year old Son to the Mem last season for the first time. When we got there, he said, "I thought we were coming to a proper football ground". Second, while I was watching Rovers on iFollow, a German friend of mine called in. After watching the game for a few minutes, he enquired if I were really watching Rovers, because he thought they "were a professional team that played in a proper ground" and not what he saw on the screen ! Slap your son and ditch your friend.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 14, 2019 13:25:02 GMT
It's quite funny how some people use the failings of previous boards as a way of putting value on the current incumbents. Oh this diarrhoea isn't as bad E. coli I had last year. Fact is we've still got an arsehole like a Japanese flag and there's sh** all over the bathroom.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 13:25:37 GMT
I have two examples that stand out for me. First, I took my seven year old Son to the Mem last season for the first time. When we got there, he said, "I thought we were coming to a proper football ground". Second, while I was watching Rovers on iFollow, a German friend of mine called in. After watching the game for a few minutes, he enquired if I were really watching Rovers, because he thought they "were a professional team that played in a proper ground" and not what he saw on the screen ! Slap your son and ditch your friend. Can't slap kids over here, and I can't ditch my friend as he sorts out my Tax stuff for free !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 13:26:28 GMT
Well let’s see what he says on having a Gas, GT doesn’t hold back and it was arranged 4 weeks ago.
You and we all rightly have the right to ask questions but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and I look forward to tonight.
I respect and agree with what some has been said on here, there are questions to be answered and I am hoping tonight and over the summer we will get some proper answers, I think we will.
I’ve enjoyed being back on the forum, missed the debate guys.
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Post by legas on Mar 14, 2019 13:27:03 GMT
Here hear. Surely Everyone can see the ground is a shambles, when lower teams than us pass us by and we are still in our cowshed of a ground maybe then people will see. The club needs better to stay relevant, the facilities are dire. I would also be embarrassed to own a sport team where the players need to clean up before they start training. Staying up in league 1 is not a success, I accept we aren't going to do great things every season, if at all, I expect mid table with the things the way they are. It's getting boring going on about it really now. I have two examples that stand out for me. First, I took my seven year old Son to the Mem last season for the first time. When we got there, he said, "I thought we were coming to a proper football ground". Second, while I was watching Rovers on iFollow, a German friend of mine called in. After watching the game for a few minutes, he enquired if I were really watching Rovers, because he thought they "were a professional team that played in a proper ground" and not what he saw on the screen ! Do you think this is the same conversation Wael had with Hani?
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Post by baggins on Mar 14, 2019 13:27:51 GMT
It's quite funny how some people use the failings of previous boards as a way of putting value on the current incumbents. Oh this diarrhoea isn't as bad E. coli I had last year. Fact is we've still got an arsehole like a Japanese flag and there's sh** all over the bathroom. Christ, University flashback.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 14, 2019 13:28:08 GMT
It's quite interesting how spiralling debt and achieving the square root of f**k all can remove the benefit of the doubt. Oh well, thankfully the family own a bank are not car salesman with a fleet of cars on a forecourt. Achieving f**k all you say, we will stay up and retain our Div1 status, name another board bar Dennis Dunford’s that did this? I see Wolves lost £1 million a week to make the promised land, we could try and be break even like Yeovil? Would Martyn Starnes leave a well paid job to join administration? Give them the benefit of the doubt and PM Wael for another selfie, you used to love those. This is genuinely not personal but indulge me in a little history. I think I'm right that you used to be 'roadman' (or was it roadman's son... ) and used to have quite strident views and expressed them so. You then left the forum one day. Dare I suggest history may be repeating itself? Look, you have a view, and others have a view, but no need to suggest that your view is the right one, and that what you have written is all fact. No need for sly comments that so and so poster used to love selfies with wael, with the logical conclusion that he must therefore be a hypocrite / sycophant. THIS is why some people think this forum is a joke. This forum has lots of intelligent posts (including parts of yours) and interesting analysis and views, but for god's sake, there are a myriad of genuinely fair and differing opinions out there.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2019 13:29:16 GMT
That mentality is the problem...why don't we aim to be higher than league 1? You saying my mentality is holding us back? We always aim to be higher but unless you've got a spare billion or two just hanging around what else do you expect? It would be interesting to know what Luton's & Doncaster's along with Blackpool's transfer/wage bills have been this season as I doubt they will have spent more than us and they are all pushing for a Championship place. Plus if the Alq's can't afford to take us to the next level then why did they buy the club when they know it needed a new stadium. I can't see how anybody can say they are doing a good job as all they seem to be doing is running up massive debts with no clear vision on how they are ever going to be repaid, with a new stadium looking as far away as it's ever done.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 14, 2019 13:31:06 GMT
With respect to just preserve our Div1 status is not good enough long term for a club with our potential regardless of who are owners are.From where are today in the league today given our current season yes, but long term its not. See the Mem - the old wreck that she... is still good enough for League one both in terms of capacity and its corporate boxes etc and our crowds are very strong given our bad facilitys so just staying up in L1 is not seen as a success given our historic level. When was the last time we were higher than Lg1? 92/93? I think, but Whats that got to do with anything? Our historical place is being a top half/mid table L1 club.Regardless of the lack of a new stadium...as I stated the Mem and our crowds are good enough to always have us as a L1 club.Its only bad management/players that will be a danger to that. When wael took over we were 75% towards our promotion from L2 and that was down to DC rather than anything Wael did.Him getting carried down Glos Rd as a hero does not paper over this. Since that day him and our board have done nothing significant for us.Im not saying they have not improved areas off the pitch, but there legacy will be only classed as a success if we get the stadium. And us just being able to be a L1 club is not a huge victory or nor a success.Im not a wael hater,just pointing out facts.
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Post by gregsy on Mar 14, 2019 13:32:10 GMT
Considering this interview could attract a good amount of listeners you'd of thought it might have been put out there....
Nothing on the os (not surprising) nothing on radio Bristol / waels / Gt's Twitter and radio bristols schedule just says having a gas, not a mention. Not exactly high profile for anyone involved then I guess....
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