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Post by lpgas on Mar 28, 2019 11:25:46 GMT
DC is part of our History. Move on
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Post by pirate on Mar 28, 2019 11:35:33 GMT
Doesn't compare to the days of Roberts, Ellington, and Cureton and Barry Hayles! and Wally Walters!
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 28, 2019 13:06:56 GMT
and Wally Walters! Even with 2 shot knees and no pace Wally was quality. His trademark step overs and his ability to put in a good dead ball still tore most defences apart in this league. What a player.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 28, 2019 14:33:38 GMT
Funny, at the time (late nineties) we were all whining about how we weren't fulfilling our potential and how we were at our lowest ebb, and now it's a golden age.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 28, 2019 15:30:34 GMT
We’ve always been saying how we haven’t fulfilled our potential, 90s, 00s and now. In 20 years time DCs team will be fantastic and full of fantastic players. It’s always been the same.😉 UTG!
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 28, 2019 15:46:57 GMT
Funny, at the time (late nineties) we were all whining about how we weren't fulfilling our potential and how we were at our lowest ebb, and now it's a golden age. We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 0:26:10 GMT
We’ve always been saying how we haven’t fulfilled our potential, 90s, 00s and now. In 20 years time DCs team will be fantastic and full of fantastic players. It’s always been the same.😉 UTG! To me the conference team was full of fantastic players and they were still making up most of the team in our first season back in league one. When the conference team started to break up was the beginning of our decline into mediocrity imo. For me its not about comparing the conference team to the tann,megson and francis teams but that that team were brilliant when we so needed them to be.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 29, 2019 9:07:04 GMT
We’ve always been saying how we haven’t fulfilled our potential, 90s, 00s and now. In 20 years time DCs team will be fantastic and full of fantastic players. It’s always been the same.😉 UTG! To me the conference team was full of fantastic players and they were still making up most of the team in our first season back in league one. When the conference team started to break up was the beginning of our decline into mediocrity imo. For me its not about comparing the conference team to the tann,megson and francis teams but that that team were brilliant when we so needed them to be. True. That season back in league 1 the day we beat Northampton with those 4 Ellis goals istr we had 7/8 conference players in the team. We might have replaced with technically better players (but even that’s up for debate) but we never replaced the character, resilience or mental strength of those players imo, BB excepted. UTG!
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Post by Jomo on Mar 29, 2019 9:25:47 GMT
To me the conference team was full of fantastic players and they were still making up most of the team in our first season back in league one. When the conference team started to break up was the beginning of our decline into mediocrity imo. For me its not about comparing the conference team to the tann,megson and francis teams but that that team were brilliant when we so needed them to be. True. That season back in league 1 the day we beat Northampton with those 4 Ellis goals istr we had 7/8 conference players in the team. We might have replaced with technically better players (but even that’s up for debate) but we never replaced the character, resilience or mental strength of those players imo, BB excepted. UTG! I'd agree on character but our squad now is still full of grit and determination as we've seen, Doncaster aside, over the last couple of months. It's inevitable that the higher we go up the leagues the harder it is for those characteristics to have a meaningful impact in regards to winning games as the quality in the squad doesn't go as far.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 29, 2019 9:33:07 GMT
Ah, the late 1990's. Every day was sunny, the football was great, and it was about the time the board let the ground start to rot.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 29, 2019 9:42:45 GMT
Ah, the late 1990's. Every day was sunny, the football was great, and it was about the time the board let the ground start to rot. Scoreboard worked though. Sort of.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 29, 2019 9:50:22 GMT
Ah, the late 1990's. Every day was sunny, the football was great, and it was about the time the board let the ground start to rot. Scoreboard worked though. Sort of. I'm already excited for the plans to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the South Stand next season.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 29, 2019 9:59:00 GMT
Funny, at the time (late nineties) we were all whining about how we weren't fulfilling our potential and how we were at our lowest ebb, and now it's a golden age. We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. Hmmm. Ollie not backed ? In the grand scale of Rovers history I'd say he was backed a lot - Halyes, Ellington, Roberts, Astafjevs and probably others. I think Ollie pushed the board as much as he could for signings - he just lost his nerve and thus we flopped badly in those last 10 games.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 29, 2019 10:27:58 GMT
We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. Hmmm. Ollie not backed ? In the grand scale of Rovers history I'd say he was backed a lot - Halyes, Ellington, Roberts, Astafjevs and probably others. I think Ollie pushed the board as much as he could for signings - he just lost his nerve and thus we flopped badly in those last 10 games. It's probably somewhere in between, from the summer of 1996 to 2000 there had been some huge sales;
1996 - Marcus Stewart - £1.6m 1997 - Marcus Browning - £675k 1998 - Peter Beadle - £330k 1998 - Barry Hayles - £2m 2000 - Jason Roberts - £2m 2000 - Jamie Cureton - £330k 2000 - Bobby Zamora - £135k
So over £6.6m raised in that period...
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2019 11:10:00 GMT
We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. Hmmm. Ollie not backed ? In the grand scale of Rovers history I'd say he was backed a lot - Halyes, Ellington, Roberts, Astafjevs and probably others. I think Ollie pushed the board as much as he could for signings - he just lost his nerve and thus we flopped badly in those last 10 games. <iframe width="17.720000000000027" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 17.720000000000027px; height: 7.399999999999977px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_40457064" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.720000000000027" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 17.72px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 832px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_16554783" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.720000000000027" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 17.72px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 306px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_1692298" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="17.720000000000027" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 17.72px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 832px; top: 306px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_96652076" scrolling="no"></iframe> Pretty sure losing Ronnie Mauge was a big blow only to be replaced with kids, then Roberts & Cureton seemed to just give up
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 29, 2019 11:56:26 GMT
Hmmm. Ollie not backed ? In the grand scale of Rovers history I'd say he was backed a lot - Halyes, Ellington, Roberts, Astafjevs and probably others. I think Ollie pushed the board as much as he could for signings - he just lost his nerve and thus we flopped badly in those last 10 games. It's probably somewhere in between, from the summer of 1996 to 2000 there had been some huge sales;
1996 - Marcus Stewart - £1.6m 1997 - Marcus Browning - £675k 1998 - Peter Beadle - £330k 1998 - Barry Hayles - £2m 2000 - Jason Roberts - £2m 2000 - Jamie Cureton - £330k 2000 - Bobby Zamora - £135k
So over £6.6m raised in that period...
And Gareth Taylor at more or less the same time. UTG!
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 29, 2019 12:35:23 GMT
It's probably somewhere in between, from the summer of 1996 to 2000 there had been some huge sales;
1996 - Marcus Stewart - £1.6m 1997 - Marcus Browning - £675k 1998 - Peter Beadle - £330k 1998 - Barry Hayles - £2m 2000 - Jason Roberts - £2m 2000 - Jamie Cureton - £330k 2000 - Bobby Zamora - £135k
So over £6.6m raised in that period...
And Gareth Taylor at more or less the same time. UTG! Taylor left the summer of 1995, I think Stewwie did leave before Ollie was in the building but it was the summer of his arrival as manager.
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Post by lpgas on Mar 29, 2019 13:53:22 GMT
Funny, at the time (late nineties) we were all whining about how we weren't fulfilling our potential and how we were at our lowest ebb, and now it's a golden age. We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. M'mm not strictly true. When Ronnie Mauge broke his leg, the players had a meeting and the then the Captain (Tilson) went to see Holloway and said that "the lads want you to get in an experienced midfielder, someone from the championship". Holloway said, "I see, so I get someone in on a higher wage and before too long you all want higher wages, it ain't gonna happen." And so Holloway got in 2 youngsters and the rest is history. This is Holloway who told Zamora he wouldn't make it in the first team . Meanwhile at that time the Mem was considered by the board as a "temporary" home, and so did not want to spend money on it. A bit like the breeze block council house I was born and raised in. A temporary home built in 1951; it's still there
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 29, 2019 22:38:51 GMT
We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. M'mm not strictly true. When Ronnie Mauge broke his leg, the players had a meeting and the then the Captain (Tilson) went to see Holloway and said that "the lads want you to get in an experienced midfielder, someone from the championship". Holloway said, "I see, so I get someone in on a higher wage and before too long you all want higher wages, it ain't gonna happen." And so Holloway got in 2 youngsters and the rest is history. This is Holloway who told Zamora he wouldn't make it in the first team . Meanwhile at that time the Mem was considered by the board as a "temporary" home, and so did not want to spend money on it. A bit like the breeze block council house I was born and raised in. A temporary home built in 1951; it's still there The Championship didn't exist then?!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 14:29:40 GMT
We weren’t really. Ollie got us playing some good football, the board didn’t back him 100% and we fell away. No investment was made in the stadia side of things either. Probably the best chance we ever had of getting to the championship with the facilities we had and making something of it. Hmmm. Ollie not backed ? In the grand scale of Rovers history I'd say he was backed a lot - Halyes, Ellington, Roberts, Astafjevs and probably others. I think Ollie pushed the board as much as he could for signings - he just lost his nerve and thus we flopped badly in those last 10 games. Ollie didnt lose his nerve ... far from it ! Ollie was told by the board that if the club went up there was no appetite to pay higher wages and contracts would remain as was. Jason Roberts uncle Cyril Regis was his agent and told JR he would get him a move away from the club at the end of the season. This was discussed with Cureton who then also wanted a better deal and the pair fell out with Ollie big time. The dressing room mood was rancid as the players weren’t happy and performances showed it ... I think it’s one of the lowest points that I can remember as the team badly let down the fans and themselves due to absolute greed. Incredibly we could still make the play offs with a point at relegated Cardiff on the last day and to this day I think some of the players threw the game ... the following summer the prima donnas were gone ...Cureton was seen as a poison and got rid of cheaply to Reading . Thats as I heard it from Ollie one night at the Jade Palace In Kingswood .... everyone will have their own interpretation.
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