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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 0:33:28 GMT
Listened really late as i work until 10pm and really enjoyed the program. Really nice what the lads said about dc as well as marcus and steve yates. The 3 players were a big part of a fantastic period of recovery from the depths of despair and i wish all of them the very best in life and football. Its all tinged with sadness for me because i believe we could have got into the championship and built on a really good team with a bit more commitment from the top of the club. But that's how rovers have always been so hey-ho.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 17, 2019 0:44:22 GMT
I wonder if some of the posters on here would feel the same about Tom L if we had got £5m Fee for him ?
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Post by rosssgb on May 17, 2019 1:06:20 GMT
Great interview. Good on Lockyer for wanting to test himself at a higher level. God forbid someone show a bit of ambition...
Some of you rose tinters could learn a thing or two from the likes of Tom. Only difference is we as supporters can’t just change clubs when we see them stagnating/falling behind the times.
Who could blame him for wanting to go to a club who I dunno.. owns their own training ground!
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Post by South Stand Ultra on May 17, 2019 5:22:29 GMT
Great interview. Good on Lockyer for wanting to test himself at a higher level. God forbid someone show a bit of ambition... Some of you rose tinters could learn a thing or to from the likes of Tom. Only difference is we as supports can’t just change clubs when we see them stagnating/falling behind the times. Who could blame him for wanting to go to a club who I dunno.. owns their own training ground!
You do know what a "rose tinter" is, don't you?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 6:06:01 GMT
Haven’t listened yet (about to) but I agree with Locks from those quotes - he was here two years too long. Any international player for a respectable nation (and even the Welsh are just about that!) should probably be playing higher than a low L1 team. He’s proved this season too that he’s one of the better CBs in the league so it’s hardly surprising he’s got four Championship clubs coming at him with admiring glances. Loyal servant throughout the past eight years and a solid club captain that stayed with us when we were at our lowest ebb and then helped us to back-to-back promotions and third tier consolidation. If some on here are offended or upset by his comments then fine, that’s your right. I say good luck to you Tom, you’ve earned it. You owe us nothing! Interested to know what you think he should have done 2 years ago and how playing regularly in a mid table side at this level has been detrimental for his career? Has Ollie Clarke been here too long?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 6:10:26 GMT
Listened really late as i work until 10pm and really enjoyed the program. Really nice what the lads said about dc as well as marcus and steve yates. The 3 players were a big part of a fantastic period of recovery from the depths of despair and i wish all of them the very best in life and football. Its all tinged with sadness for me because i believe we could have got into the championship and built on a really good team with a bit more commitment from the top of the club. But that's how rovers have always been so hey-ho. Translating to 'I think the owners should have gambled significant amounts of their own money to put us in a position where we are even more unsustainable' Let's be honest, that team was a long way being Championship quality.
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 17, 2019 6:41:24 GMT
Listened really late as i work until 10pm and really enjoyed the program. Really nice what the lads said about dc as well as marcus and steve yates. The 3 players were a big part of a fantastic period of recovery from the depths of despair and i wish all of them the very best in life and football. Its all tinged with sadness for me because i believe we could have got into the championship and built on a really good team with a bit more commitment from the top of the club. But that's how rovers have always been so hey-ho. Translating to 'I think the owners should have gambled significant amounts of their own money to put us in a position where we are even more unsustainable' Let's be honest, that team was a long way being Championship quality. Or they could have delivered their off the field promises and not came out with stupid statements such as "we dont have to sell our best players anymore" and then sold them at the first low ball offer anyway
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 7:04:42 GMT
Translating to 'I think the owners should have gambled significant amounts of their own money to put us in a position where we are even more unsustainable' Let's be honest, that team was a long way being Championship quality. Or they could have delivered their off the field promises and not came out with stupid statements such as "we dont have to sell our best players anymore" and then sold them at the first low ball offer anyway Who gave that statement and when? Who are the players you feel we've sold for low ball offers?
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 17, 2019 7:14:27 GMT
Or they could have delivered their off the field promises and not came out with stupid statements such as "we dont have to sell our best players anymore" and then sold them at the first low ball offer anyway Who gave that statement and when? Who are the players you feel we've sold for low ball offers? Wael, cant find the interview for it and frankly dont have the time to watch them all to find it but it's also referenced in this article so I'm not imagining it: www.thesackrace.com/news/30th-october-2018/are-bristol-rovers-coming-to-the-end-of-an-era"Wael Al-Qadi should, perhaps, take some responsibility for claiming Rovers do not need to sell their best players, before granting the likes of Billy Bodin and Ellis Harrison Championship moves." Add Taylor to that. I'm not saying we should have denied them the opportunity but we took a lot less for them than we should have. Contract clauses or not if we didn't have to sell our best players clauses for certain players to get out cheap wouldnt have been needed.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 17, 2019 7:22:15 GMT
Add Taylor to that. I'm not saying we should have denied them the opportunity but we took a lot less for them than we should have. Contract clauses or not if we didn't have to sell our best players clauses for certain players to get out cheap wouldnt have been needed. That's patently gibberish. Even Barcelona have get-out clauses.
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 17, 2019 7:33:03 GMT
Add Taylor to that. I'm not saying we should have denied them the opportunity but we took a lot less for them than we should have. Contract clauses or not if we didn't have to sell our best players clauses for certain players to get out cheap wouldnt have been needed. That's patently gibberish. Even Barcelona have get-out clauses. Barcelona have buy out clauses with prices that other clubs will very rarely match. The only move you can make from Barca is sideways or downwards. There is no better. Putting a 300k get out clause in the contract of someone who had scored something like 20 and 28 goals back to back is just idiotic when coming out with statements that we dont need to sell our best players.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 17, 2019 7:36:13 GMT
That's patently gibberish. Even Barcelona have get-out clauses. Barcelona have buy out clauses with prices that other clubs will very rarely match. The only move you can make from Barca is sideways or downwards. There is no better. Putting a 300k get out clause in the contract of someone who had scored something like 20 and 28 goals back to back is just idiotic when coming out with statements that we dont need to sell our best players. That's nothing like what you said, though, is it? Plus if Taylor's agent says 300K or he won't sign, is it idiotic to sign him? Not really, we got half a season out of him and 300K which has to be better than f**k all, right?
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 17, 2019 7:42:41 GMT
That's patently gibberish. Even Barcelona have get-out clauses. Barcelona have buy out clauses with prices that other clubs will very rarely match. The only move you can make from Barca is sideways or downwards. There is no better. Putting a 300k get out clause in the contract of someone who had scored something like 20 and 28 goals back to back is just idiotic when coming out with statements that we dont need to sell our best players. Was that insisted on by the player, maybe they would have not signed a new contact with out it so we would have got f... all for them
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 7:48:06 GMT
Who gave that statement and when? Who are the players you feel we've sold for low ball offers? Wael, cant find the interview for it and frankly dont have the time to watch them all to find it but it's also referenced in this article so I'm not imagining it: www.thesackrace.com/news/30th-october-2018/are-bristol-rovers-coming-to-the-end-of-an-era"Wael Al-Qadi should, perhaps, take some responsibility for claiming Rovers do not need to sell their best players, before granting the likes of Billy Bodin and Ellis Harrison Championship moves." Add Taylor to that. I'm not saying we should have denied them the opportunity but we took a lot less for them than we should have. Contract clauses or not if we didn't have to sell our best players clauses for certain players to get out cheap wouldnt have been needed. Or perhaps the 'quote' can be added to the long list of sweeping assumptions people made when WAQ and co took over the club? Bodin has 6 months left on his contract in a season where we had nothing left to play for. It was £250k or nothing. There's no evidence we needed to sell him, it just made business and common sense to do so. 750k for Harrison looks great business currently. His market value would probably be a third of that currently. Again, it may well have been 300k or nothing for Taylor. We know he verbally agreed a deal with Oxford and that may well have swung it. It's the reality of lower league football.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on May 17, 2019 7:50:36 GMT
We ain't doing this AGAAAAAAINNNNNNNNNN are we? Its been done to death on here.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 17, 2019 7:51:33 GMT
Listened really late as i work until 10pm and really enjoyed the program. Really nice what the lads said about dc as well as marcus and steve yates. The 3 players were a big part of a fantastic period of recovery from the depths of despair and i wish all of them the very best in life and football. Its all tinged with sadness for me because i believe we could have got into the championship and built on a really good team with a bit more commitment from the top of the club. But that's how rovers have always been so hey-ho. Translating to 'I think the owners should have gambled significant amounts of their own money to put us in a position where we are even more unsustainable' Let's be honest, that team was a long way being Championship quality.
Was and still is, any improvements are aiming to polish a turd.
Only one thing that will progress this club and that is a new stadium, if the current owners cannot deliver that then I fail to see why they bothered with us in the first place as the Wael's don't seem the sort of people to chuck money down the drain.
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 17, 2019 8:03:49 GMT
Translating to 'I think the owners should have gambled significant amounts of their own money to put us in a position where we are even more unsustainable' Let's be honest, that team was a long way being Championship quality.
Was and still is, any improvements are aiming to polish a turd.
Only one thing that will progress this club and that is a new stadium, if the current owners cannot deliver that then I fail to see why they bothered with us in the first place as the Wael's don't seem the sort of people to chuck money down the drain.
Seek and ye shall find
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 17, 2019 8:13:31 GMT
Point missed but ok
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Post by neilv93 on May 17, 2019 8:13:53 GMT
Haven’t listened yet (about to) but I agree with Locks from those quotes - he was here two years too long. Any international player for a respectable nation (and even the Welsh are just about that!) should probably be playing higher than a low L1 team. He’s proved this season too that he’s one of the better CBs in the league so it’s hardly surprising he’s got four Championship clubs coming at him with admiring glances. Loyal servant throughout the past eight years and a solid club captain that stayed with us when we were at our lowest ebb and then helped us to back-to-back promotions and third tier consolidation. If some on here are offended or upset by his comments then fine, that’s your right. I say good luck to you Tom, you’ve earned it. You owe us nothing! Interested to know what you think he should have done 2 years ago and how playing regularly in a mid table side at this level has been detrimental for his career? Has Ollie Clarke been here too long? Not sure I understand the Ollie part - he wasn't a then-22-year-old international and club captain, was he? Nor is he at the same level. What would I have done though? Probably sold him summer 2017. He'd signed a new contract in 2016 and renewed in January 2018, which to me signals he signed a two-year deal in 2016 to run until 2018. So I would've sold him halfway through that contract, when his sale value was at its highest point, after two back-to-back promotions and our highest finish in 17 years. And he should've probably left then but unfortunately it sounds like, like DC, he was sold a pipedream. But at that point in 2017 is when he should've been eyeing the next career step. Of course, all my opinion but that's what I'd have done/think he should've done. FWIW, I could envisage Ollie staying here for most/all of his professional career if both clubs stay at a competent level.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 8:23:17 GMT
Interested to know what you think he should have done 2 years ago and how playing regularly in a mid table side at this level has been detrimental for his career? Has Ollie Clarke been here too long? Not sure I understand the Ollie part - he wasn't a then-22-year-old international and club captain, was he? Nor is he at the same level. What would I have done though? Probably sold him summer 2017. He'd signed a new contract in 2016 and renewed in January 2018, which to me signals he signed a two-year deal in 2016 to run until 2018. So I would've sold him halfway through that contract, when his sale value was at its highest point, after two back-to-back promotions and our highest finish in 17 years. And he should've probably left then but unfortunately it sounds like, like DC, he was sold a pipedream. But at that point in 2017 is when he should've been eyeing the next career step. Of course, all my opinion but that's what I'd have done/think he should've done. FWIW, I could envisage Ollie staying here for most/all of his professional career if both clubs stay at a competent level. Lockyer wasn't a capped international player two years ago. The fact he's been club captain in that time and started week in week out will have massively progressed him. What makes you think a bigger club was interested during that time and would have paid to take him off our hands? The jury is still out whether he's good enough for the Championship or whether he could be an ever present in a team promoted from his level.
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