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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jun 3, 2019 8:40:52 GMT
I know many people don’t like this bloke for the way he handles himself on Twitter etc, but I find his openness quite refreshing tbh. Has a totally different energy and presence about him than some of the higher-ups at our club, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 8:47:31 GMT
Still Tillson for £375k I believe (they would've said we'd broken our transfer record when signing Nichols, surely). Edit: many others got there first above! Ps. I think Eisa will bang nets in L1. Mental that Peterborough can just so easily smash out seven-figure fees at this level. well thet can and they can't. They obviously have someone prepared to spunk that money, but as a club/business they are in stacks of debt like everybody else
Did you see the Trade Creditors in that analysis? $2.8 M...can that be right? Trade creditors are usually on a 90 day payment schedule, but either way, that's enormous
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 3, 2019 8:49:32 GMT
And still managed to sell him for significantly more than the £1mil they paid. It’s systematic of the problem full stop with football with clubs going for a wrack em and stack em policy. Eisa would have been best served coming to League One in the first place. Unlike you to allow 2 errors through!
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Post by peterparker on Jun 3, 2019 8:49:34 GMT
well thet can and they can't. They obviously have someone prepared to spunk that money, but as a club/business they are in stacks of debt like everybody else
Did you see the Trade Creditors in that analysis? $2.8 M...can that be right? Trade creditors are usually on a 90 day payment schedule, but either way, that's enormous I did. I would have assumed most of those have to be football related payments, but then if they were, would have thought there would be more of a fuss. so whatv are they?
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Post by singupgas on Jun 3, 2019 9:47:16 GMT
I know many people don’t like this bloke for the way he handles himself on Twitter etc, but I find his openness quite refreshing tbh. Has a totally different energy and presence about him than some of the higher-ups at our club, IMO. People don't like him because he is not our owner, im sure if Wael was saying the same things we would all be loving it. What is clear is, the guy has ambition and wants to see his side compete each season, must be financial reward in being promoted or something like that...
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 3, 2019 10:04:07 GMT
Andy Tilson back in the 1950’s ( well it seems like it!) £375k or £475k I can’t remember which? £370,000. Which would be the equivalent of just over £750,000 today.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 3, 2019 10:09:54 GMT
I know many people don’t like this bloke for the way he handles himself on Twitter etc, but I find his openness quite refreshing tbh. Has a totally different energy and presence about him than some of the higher-ups at our club, IMO. People don't like him because he is not our owner, im sure if Wael was saying the same things we would all be loving it. What is clear is, the guy has ambition and wants to see his side compete each season, must be financial reward in being promoted or something like that... Doubt it. Every year they fall short, he would rather buy and sell players than keep a settled team, and he sacks his manager every year. There is plenty there for people to complain about if he was our owner.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 3, 2019 10:15:15 GMT
Which would be the equivalent of just over £750,000 today. indeed, it also represented about 10% of the national record at the time, which today would be £6-8m?. Football inflation has risen much faster.
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Post by singupgas on Jun 3, 2019 10:20:48 GMT
People don't like him because he is not our owner, im sure if Wael was saying the same things we would all be loving it. What is clear is, the guy has ambition and wants to see his side compete each season, must be financial reward in being promoted or something like that... Doubt it. Every year they fall short, he would rather buy and sell players than keep a settled team, and he sacks his manager every year. There is plenty there for people to complain about if he was our owner. When did we last spend anywhere near a 7 figure sum on a player? Some of the biggest clubs in the world sack their manager after winning the league, if he feels that the manager should being doing better than missing out on play off and he can afford to pay them off, i see no issue in this.
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Post by Jomo on Jun 3, 2019 10:24:23 GMT
People don't like him because he is not our owner, im sure if Wael was saying the same things we would all be loving it. What is clear is, the guy has ambition and wants to see his side compete each season, must be financial reward in being promoted or something like that... Doubt it. Every year they fall short, he would rather buy and sell players than keep a settled team, and he sacks his manager every year. There is plenty there for people to complain about if he was our owner. I agree. In some ways I admire Posh's transfer policy and it clearly works for them financially. However it is also very scattergun. Throw enough s**t at a wall and some of it will stick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 10:24:44 GMT
Peterborough record signing from bristol city on a 4 year deal. 7 figure undisclosed fee. The relevance to rovers is that peterborough are in our division. madness. Possibly,but city have made a profit on a player who couldn't get into their team. With peterborough's track record whose to say they wont make a profit on him? Madness or clear thinking strategy regarding recruitment?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 3, 2019 10:25:34 GMT
Doubt it. Every year they fall short, he would rather buy and sell players than keep a settled team, and he sacks his manager every year. There is plenty there for people to complain about if he was our owner. When did we last spend anywhere near a 7 figure sum on a player? Some of the biggest clubs in the world sack their manager after winning the league, if he feels that the manager should being doing better than missing out on play off and he can afford to pay them off, i see no issue in this. When did we last sell one for £5M? You can support him as much as you like (no one's denied you this), I'm just pointing out (the blindingly obvious, istm) that if he did that here, there would be plenty of people complaining about it.
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Post by tomylil on Jun 3, 2019 10:29:15 GMT
Was part of City’s recruitment policy of “it you throw enough sh** against a wall some might stick”. And still managed to sell him for significantly more than the £1mil they paid. I'm not sure I believe that to be fair. Fee is undisclosed and just because the time share flogger says it's over £1m doesn't mean it is. He was also paid by them for a year so that's anything between £250k and £500k Whoever Gary Johnson is employed by seem to do very well out of Bristol City it appears.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 3, 2019 10:44:41 GMT
Possibly,but city have made a profit on a player who couldn't get into their team. With peterborough's track record whose to say they wont make a profit on him? Madness or clear thinking strategy regarding recruitment? all those things may all be true or happen, but it is still madness.
Last week there is a meltdown on here because of the accounts, but Peterborough £12m in debt have just spent (allegedly) £1m+ on a player
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 11:40:31 GMT
Possibly,but city have made a profit on a player who couldn't get into their team. With peterborough's track record whose to say they wont make a profit on him? Madness or clear thinking strategy regarding recruitment? all those things may all be true or happen, but it is still madness.
Last week there is a meltdown on here because of the accounts, but Peterborough £12m in debt have just spent (allegedly) £1m+ on a player
There is a video out there of mccanthony with eisa telling the camera they have paid a record 7 figure fee for the lad. We know city fans are obliviously unconcerned with their losses. With ourselves i suppose there is a lack of trust and a realisation that our assets are quite modest. You would think peterborough are similar to ourselves so im not sure if their fans are in meltdown? Football is a weird business it's true.
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Post by Jomo on Jun 3, 2019 12:02:34 GMT
all those things may all be true or happen, but it is still madness.
Last week there is a meltdown on here because of the accounts, but Peterborough £12m in debt have just spent (allegedly) £1m+ on a player
There is a video out there of mccanthony with eisa telling the camera they have paid a record 7 figure fee for the lad. We know city fans are obliviously unconcerned with their losses. With ourselves i suppose there is a lack of trust and a realisation that our assets are quite modest. You would think peterborough are similar to ourselves so im not sure if their fans are in meltdown? Football is a weird business it's true. For me it all boils down to whether an owner is fanatical enough to fork out more of their own money and plunge the club deeper into debt, or not. That certainly does not make it right, and I actually don't blame the ALQ's for wanting us to be sustainable. Its just that football is not a sustainable business, so why did they buy a football club? What they must do for their own sakes as much as ours is actually invest the capital required to give us infrastructure that will bring in more revenue for years to come. We have ZERO chance of being sustainable in our current guise. If we had someone like MacAnthony at the helm who seems happy to bankroll the club, most fans wouldn't be so concerned, but it could all end in tears for them just as much as it could for us. If McAnthony departs, they could be seriously screwed.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jun 3, 2019 12:17:47 GMT
After one season. Before that Eisa was playing 4 levels below the Football League in the Isthmian League Division One South for Greenwich Borough. Was part of City’s recruitment policy of “it you throw enough sh** against a wall some might stick”. Hate to say it but last closed season that changed (even if it was true in the first place...). They sold 3 players for HUGE money (none of whom seemed to justify their fees last season) & spent little, yet still almost got playoffs.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Jun 3, 2019 13:02:23 GMT
According to a sh*thead friend of mine he is utter dross I don't know how he formed that opinion on Eisa when the bloke barely kicked a ball in anger for 82...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 14:42:00 GMT
I know many people don’t like this bloke for the way he handles himself on Twitter etc, but I find his openness quite refreshing tbh. Has a totally different energy and presence about him than some of the higher-ups at our club, IMO. I doubt he would be a mate of mine like, but as an owner of a football club I like him- he seems like a strong guy who fronts up and isn't afraid to speak his opinion, a leader. The polar opposite of our poor excuse for a president who every time he speaks seems very evasive and seems to have created a 'jobs for the boys' culture at Rovers.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jun 3, 2019 16:54:15 GMT
English Football League
Kieran Kennedy [Wrexham - Port Vale] Free
Tyler Reid [Swansea - Swindon] Free
Ryan Watson [MK Dons - Northampton] Free English Football League
Kieran Kennedy [Wrexham - Port Vale] Free
Mo Eisa [Bristol City - Peterborough] Undisclosed
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