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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 21:43:28 GMT
Every player from what squad went on to play in the top flight, certainly not Gerry Francis squad. Phil Purnell, Vaughn Jones, Boris, Billy Clarke, Parkin, Saunders, Reece, Nixon to name a few that didn't. The point I was trying to make was that a complete balanced team of a to be Premier squad had played for Rovers at Twerton. If only we could have kept them altogether. Nigel Martyn, Tim Cater, keepers John Scales, Nicky Tanner Richard Dryden defenders Ian Holloway, Gary Penrice Devon White midfielders Marcus Stewart, Gareth Taylor, Bob turner Strikers. Can't wait for all the whingers to say they were all crap Ah i see, wouldn't have big Dev down as a midfielder though . Steve Yates would be in the defenders too.
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Post by poorblue on Jul 18, 2019 9:24:08 GMT
The point I was trying to make was that a complete balanced team of a to be Premier squad had played for Rovers at Twerton. If only we could have kept them altogether. Nigel Martyn, Tim Cater, keepers John Scales, Nicky Tanner Richard Dryden defenders Ian Holloway, Gary Penrice Devon White midfielders Marcus Stewart, Gareth Taylor, Bob turner Strikers. Can't wait for all the whingers to say they were all crap Ah i see, wouldn't have big Dev down as a midfielder though . Steve Yates would be in the defenders too. Yep mental block serious error omitting Yates! I knew there was a missing centre half but 20man and Tilson kept blocking my line of thinking along with Cawly and others haha Regarding Devon White, my over riding memory of rovers style of play at that time was them working out of defence by taking throw ins along the line with White forcing another throw in further up the pitch until a corner was won. Thus White played wide. Only then when the corner was taken did he generally go to the near post and invariably win a flickon to the back post for others to score. Apart from his goals he must be up there with the record for most goal assists than any player in rovers history I would have thought. Striker or midfielder? how about a wide Striker?
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 18, 2019 9:46:20 GMT
The person who told my friend (my friends Dad) and claimed that when Wael was asked about the reasoning for his visit he had said that the club were 'exploring the idea' of purchasing land at the market and asked all he spoke to if they would kindly refrain from spreading the news of his visit. Maybe he should have asked Wael what refrain meant, or looked it up. Why should he? Given that this board give us almost 0 information with regards to progress on many off pitch fronts, when a supporter of the club accidentally stumbles across some potentially important news, why shouldn't he share it? Maybe if we had more fluid communication from our board his request may have been taken more seriously.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 18, 2019 9:57:49 GMT
Maybe he should have asked Wael what refrain meant, or looked it up. Why should he? Given that this board give us almost 0 information with regards to progress on many off pitch fronts, when a supporter of the club accidentally stumbles across some potentially important news, why shouldn't he share it? Maybe if we had more fluid communication from our board his request may have been taken more seriously. Just politeness, really. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. I don't really get why people do this, especially in regards to the football club. It's like people just can't wait to spill all the meager beans they have, even when it goes against people's explicit requests, and even if it is barely a soundbite. Do people do this in real life outside football as well? If a mate asks me not to let this go any further I simply honour their wishes. When someone does you a favour by giving you info, what is this need to throw it straight back in their faces by ignoring a simple request?
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 18, 2019 10:22:20 GMT
Why should he? Given that this board give us almost 0 information with regards to progress on many off pitch fronts, when a supporter of the club accidentally stumbles across some potentially important news, why shouldn't he share it? Maybe if we had more fluid communication from our board his request may have been taken more seriously. Just politeness, really. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. I don't really get why people do this, especially in regards to the football club. It's like people just can't wait to spill all the meager beans they have, even when it goes against people's explicit requests, and even if it is barely a soundbite. Do people do this in real life outside football as well? If a mate asks me not to let this go any further I simply honour their wishes. When someone does you a favour by giving you info, what is this need to throw it straight back in their faces by ignoring a simple request? Jesus. Bad day so far then? If I am given information about this football club that I believe is in the interest of us the supporters I will have absolutely no hesitation in passing it on to the people who I believe have every right to know what is going on. If indeed said information really was top secret then members of the clubs board would not be wandering around in broad daylight would they? No secrecy agreement was signed, was a mere casual request that was rightfully (in my opinion given the circumstances) ignored. As I have already said, perhaps if the club was more upfront in terms of it's communication then leaks like this would not need to happen. Would also like to flag that responses like this from AF are exactly why people hesitate in sharing new. You are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Finally, and to clarify, I certainly have not had any issues understanding your point, I simply disagree. This is a football forum dedicated to BRFC and I had information regarding BRFC I felt was worthwhile sharing. I also made it very clear from the outset that any reader could take or leave said information. Perhaps you nay wish to adopt a slightly less patronising tone in future AF? We are all on the same side here after all.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 18, 2019 10:47:15 GMT
Would also like to flag that responses like this from AF are exactly why people hesitate in sharing new. You are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. I wish they would. Not sure how you worked out you're damned if you don't.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 18, 2019 11:02:40 GMT
Because there could be a reason why he wants the information to remain quiet. The way Steve Lansdown behaved with a certain Matty Taylor I wouldn’t need put it past him gazumping a deal to buy a stadium site. Let the club communicate to us when the time is right and Is are dotted and Ts are crossed. We can do without another ‘watertight’ contract.
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Post by tomylil on Jul 18, 2019 13:03:02 GMT
Funny you should say that, I was told by a friend last night that he had heard from a pretty reliable source that we have in fact purchased land at the Fruit Market. My mate who told me said that Wael himself was at the fruit market a few weeks ago with a large consortium of suits walking the site. The person who told my friend (my friends Dad) and claimed that when Wael was asked about the reasoning for his visit he had said that the club were 'exploring the idea' of purchasing land at the market and asked all he spoke to if they would kindly refrain from spreading the news of his visit. Interestingly my friend had absolutely no idea of the huge rumour of said deal that did the rounds on here a few weeks ago.. I also have absolutely no reason think he is BSing as he just is not the type to do so. I am only passing on what I was told, please do feel free to take the info with a pinch of salt if you wish, but just don't shoot the messenger! Just re-reading this and in no way seeking to trip anyone up, but you firstly say your source says land has been purchased, then refers to Wael being asked outright why he was there and responded by saying the club was exploring the prospect of acquiring land. Sounds to me like two and two don't make four yet, and cynics amongst us might even get a conspiracy theory going that Wael wanted to be seen walking round the market with a posse of suits. I am not suggesting anyone has made anything up I can assure you, but it sounds a bit iffy to me at this stage.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jul 18, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
Any bowl a pound, Strawberries £1.50, two punnets for £3 - Come on.
I made that up btw
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 18, 2019 13:39:58 GMT
Funny you should say that, I was told by a friend last night that he had heard from a pretty reliable source that we have in fact purchased land at the Fruit Market. My mate who told me said that Wael himself was at the fruit market a few weeks ago with a large consortium of suits walking the site. The person who told my friend (my friends Dad) and claimed that when Wael was asked about the reasoning for his visit he had said that the club were 'exploring the idea' of purchasing land at the market and asked all he spoke to if they would kindly refrain from spreading the news of his visit. Interestingly my friend had absolutely no idea of the huge rumour of said deal that did the rounds on here a few weeks ago.. I also have absolutely no reason think he is BSing as he just is not the type to do so. I am only passing on what I was told, please do feel free to take the info with a pinch of salt if you wish, but just don't shoot the messenger! Just re-reading this and in no way seeking to trip anyone up, but you firstly say your source says land has been purchased, then refers to Wael being asked outright why he was there and responded by saying the club was exploring the prospect of acquiring land. Sounds to me like two and two don't make four yet, and cynics amongst us might even get a conspiracy theory going that Wael wanted to be seen walking round the market with a posse of suits. I am not suggesting anyone has made anything up I can assure you, but it sounds a bit iffy to me at this stage. Quite agree mate, definitely still a lot of i's to be dotted! Also there is no doubt that as always with these things, info gets diluted / exaggerated as it makes it's way down the chain. But I really do not think this person is they type to BS ( I would not have posted on here if I even slightly believed it was BS) and as such think there could be some fire to this smoke.. I guess only time will tell.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 18, 2019 13:43:21 GMT
Would also like to flag that responses like this from AF are exactly why people hesitate in sharing new. You are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. I wish they would. Not sure how you worked out you're damned if you don't. So we should only discuss fact on this forum? Anything other than fact to be disregarded? What a wonderful forum that sounds like! As I have now said twice, if you do not want to entertain the info I completely understand and to a certain extent agree with your point, but please don't feel the need to tell me and everyone else that you do not agree with my post.. Just quietly move on and comment on something that does interest you kindly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 13:43:26 GMT
Ah i see, wouldn't have big Dev down as a midfielder though . Steve Yates would be in the defenders too. Yep mental block serious error omitting Yates! I knew there was a missing centre half but 20man and Tilson kept blocking my line of thinking along with Cawly and others haha Regarding Devon White, my over riding memory of rovers style of play at that time was them working out of defence by taking throw ins along the line with White forcing another throw in further up the pitch until a corner was won. Thus White played wide. Only then when the corner was taken did he generally go to the near post and invariably win a flickon to the back post for others to score. Apart from his goals he must be up there with the record for most goal assists than any player in rovers history I would have thought. Striker or midfielder? how about a wide Striker? Most definitely an old fashioned, if somewhat unique, number 9. A man who made the absolute most of what he had. Legend.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 18, 2019 14:37:27 GMT
I wish they would. Not sure how you worked out you're damned if you don't. So we should only discuss fact on this forum? Anything other than fact to be disregarded? What a wonderful forum that sounds like! As I have now said twice, if you do not want to entertain the info I completely understand and to a certain extent agree with your point, but please don't feel the need to tell me and everyone else that you do not agree with my post.. Just quietly move on and comment on something that does interest you kindly. Not sure what you're talking about now. Nothing to do with what I actually said. Just simply observing that if someone asks you not to share something, then think about what they've asked and what you will achieve by sharing it.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jul 18, 2019 14:51:13 GMT
So we should only discuss fact on this forum? Anything other than fact to be disregarded? What a wonderful forum that sounds like! As I have now said twice, if you do not want to entertain the info I completely understand and to a certain extent agree with your point, but please don't feel the need to tell me and everyone else that you do not agree with my post.. Just quietly move on and comment on something that does interest you kindly. Not sure what you're talking about now. Nothing to do with what I actually said. Just simply observing that if someone asks you not to share something, then think about what they've asked and what you will achieve by sharing it. I think the onus is on the person sharing with you in the first place. In this instance, assuming the story is true, Wael could have remained silent, or he could of visited on a quiet Sunday afternoon. i always live by the rule that if I don’t want anyone to know something, I don’t tell anyone. Also, if anyone starts of by saying ‘don’t tell anyone, but’, I tend to interrupt & tell them not to tell me - I tend to find those people are less than trustworthy anyway
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 18, 2019 14:58:39 GMT
Not sure what you're talking about now. Nothing to do with what I actually said. Just simply observing that if someone asks you not to share something, then think about what they've asked and what you will achieve by sharing it. I think the onus is on the person sharing with you in the first place. In this instance, assuming the story is true, Wael could have remained silent, or he could of visited on a quiet Sunday afternoon. i always live by the rule that if I don’t want anyone to know something, I don’t tell anyone. Also, if anyone starts of by saying ‘don’t tell anyone, but’, I tend to interrupt & tell them not to tell me - I tend to find those people are less than trustworthy anyway Sure, it depends on the conversation. If someone broaches the subject and says don't tell anyone, mind, then they have not only shared something you didn't necessarily need to know, but put the onus on you to keep it to yourself, which is probably unreasonable. If you ask someone for specific info, then istm reasonable to respect their wishes. I doubt Wael rushed up to this guy and said, Don't tell anyone but... In any case, if you consider that Wael is on our side, then surely you have to trust his judgement on what is good to tell everyone and what isn't. If he trusts you as a gashead with info (coz you asked) and asks you not to repeat it, that seems like a reasonable informal contract. Obviously if you don't trust Wael has the best interests of the club at heart,or you think he doesn't know what he's doing, then I guess as a gashead you don't need to give a f**k what he asks. Of course, if he sticks strictly to what you have said, we will get posts on here like, saw Wael the other day and I asked him something but he refused to discuss it, stuck up git! If only they would communicate more, etc, etc.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 18, 2019 15:00:29 GMT
Not sure what you're talking about now. Nothing to do with what I actually said. Just simply observing that if someone asks you not to share something, then think about what they've asked and what you will achieve by sharing it. I think the onus is on the person sharing with you in the first place. In this instance, assuming the story is true, Wael could have remained silent, or he could of visited on a quiet Sunday afternoon. i always live by the rule that if I don’t want anyone to know something, I don’t tell anyone. Also, if anyone starts of by saying ‘don’t tell anyone, but’, I tend to interrupt & tell them not to tell me - I tend to find those people are less than trustworthy anyway Exactly this.
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Post by aghast on Jul 18, 2019 16:32:24 GMT
If somebody told me in strictest confidence that we're building a new stadium, I'd be straight on here to tell everyone, because they clearly would have been making it up.
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Post by Gasshole on Jul 18, 2019 20:13:34 GMT
We’re building a new stadium on the former site of the Henbury computer Emporium. Nimbys are up in arms that planning permission was granted. Bribery and corruption charges are being looked into. A struggling man was seen being led away by a lone policewomen. Parking is atrocious.
A man was also seen racing away on a camal.
Chaotic scenes at a nearby pub, as many locals celebrated wildly, the last Thursday of the week
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