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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 11:46:50 GMT
Did not notice the Blackpool fans last Saturday upset that their team was playing in last season's kit. Their new home strip is delayed and will not be available until beginning of September. And theres loads on here moaning we have not yet announced an away kit. First opening fixture without an Oysten in the boardroom since 1987, new ownership took over in June and I'm pretty sure the feel good factor around the club at the moment gave them a little wiggle room for this delay. After the 5 years Blackpool have had, it's not surprising they didn't have the protest banners out for a shirt.
You're right though, Rovers are doing great with this away shirt lark. Well done lads.
Nothing to do with Blackpool, order mucked up by the manufacturer. Perhaps our manufacturer has caused the delay of our away kit. Earlier post about wrong colour, sent back suggests that.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 7, 2019 12:00:37 GMT
First opening fixture without an Oysten in the boardroom since 1987, new ownership took over in June and I'm pretty sure the feel good factor around the club at the moment gave them a little wiggle room for this delay. After the 5 years Blackpool have had, it's not surprising they didn't have the protest banners out for a shirt.
You're right though, Rovers are doing great with this away shirt lark. Well done lads.
Nothing to do with Blackpool, order mucked up by the manufacturer. Perhaps our manufacturer has caused the delay of our away kit. Earlier post about wrong colour, sent back suggests that. Yep, they've released both kits, explained why there's a delay in purchasing them and while everyone isn't happy it's accepted. We're a week into the season, no comment on the kit, no photos, nothing. Just silence.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 7, 2019 12:33:48 GMT
Nothing to do with Blackpool, order mucked up by the manufacturer. Perhaps our manufacturer has caused the delay of our away kit. Earlier post about wrong colour, sent back suggests that. Yep, they've released both kits, explained why there's a delay in purchasing them and while everyone isn't happy it's accepted. We're a week into the season, no comment on the kit, no photos, nothing. Just silence. The club does indeed have a tendency to sweep any news of the negative variety (or at least not positive) under the rug. Staff departures, delays to developments, delays to kits, almost none of it gets reported unless they're backed into a corner. I think the owners are doing their best and I think TG is doing a good job, but I do also think the club have a very large amount of room for improvement in their communication.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 7, 2019 12:40:51 GMT
Yep, they've released both kits, explained why there's a delay in purchasing them and while everyone isn't happy it's accepted. We're a week into the season, no comment on the kit, no photos, nothing. Just silence. The club does indeed have a tendency to sweep any news of the negative variety (or at least not positive) under the rug. Staff departures, delays to developments, delays to kits, almost none of it gets reported unless they're backed into a corner. I think the owners are doing their best and I think TG is doing a good job, but I do also think the club have a very large amount of room for improvement in their communication. It's not even bad news, these things can happen. It's a minor issue that's snowballed because they've not said "Yep, unfortunately the kit has been delayed because *insert excuse*. We're hoping for the kit to be released on *insert date* and available to buy by *insert vague date*.
Today I received an email from Gloucestershire Cricket apologising for the huge queues at the bars on Friday (they were massive). They also told me I could have a free ticket for the Hampshire game next week as means of an apology. Anyone that had pre-purchased a ticket, and they had the email of received the same. Mistakes happen, things don't go smoothly, how you react to them and learn from them is important. Something's gone on with the shirts so just front up, tell us roughly what's going on and when it'll be sorted. Unless there's a confidentially clause?
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Post by Jomo on Aug 7, 2019 12:51:08 GMT
The club does indeed have a tendency to sweep any news of the negative variety (or at least not positive) under the rug. Staff departures, delays to developments, delays to kits, almost none of it gets reported unless they're backed into a corner. I think the owners are doing their best and I think TG is doing a good job, but I do also think the club have a very large amount of room for improvement in their communication. It's not even bad news, these things can happen. It's a minor issue that's snowballed because they've not said "Yep, unfortunately the kit has been delayed because *insert excuse*. We're hoping for the kit to be released on *insert date* and available to buy by *insert vague date*.
Today I received an email from Gloucestershire Cricket apologising for the huge queues at the bars on Friday (they were massive). They also told me I could have a free ticket for the Hampshire game next week as means of an apology. Anyone that had pre-purchased a ticket, and they had the email of received the same. Mistakes happen, things don't go smoothly, how you react to them and learn from them is important. Something's gone on with the shirts so just front up, tell us roughly what's going on and when it'll be sorted. Unless there's a confidentially clause?
Indeed, it's not a big issue but their lack of communication turns it into a bigger issue than it actually is. Fronting up when these things happen would be the best thing they can do for themselves let alone the fans. Trust is an easy thing to lose and it's this sort of strange tumble weed communication that has made a lot of fans lose trust in the club. Too many go way too far though and I'd like to think that I'm one of the more objective ones regarding the owners/board, but nevertheless if I was grading them on their performance I would say they show promise but must improve.
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Post by aghast on Aug 7, 2019 16:58:12 GMT
I think they've got themselves into this pickle about communication.
They've become guarded and defensive about releasing news that might be negative because of criticism in the past, in my opinion.
The trouble is this criticism arises to a large extent because they don't communicate with us about very much at all. They don't admit that things aren't happening until the point where it becomes ludicrous to pretend they are happening, and at that point, they get a roasting for not telling the fans earlier.
So when the next misfortune comes along, they say nothing because of past experience, and it becomes an escalating feeling of mistrust and defensiveness between owners and fans.
The shirt issue in itself isn't really important, but I think not letting the fans know why they can't buy their kids a replica shirt, for the start of the new season, actually is quite important.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 7, 2019 17:36:35 GMT
I think they've got themselves into this pickle about communication. They've become guarded and defensive about releasing news that might be negative because of criticism in the past, in my opinion. The trouble is this criticism arises to a large extent because they don't communicate with us about very much at all. They don't admit that things aren't happening until the point where it becomes ludicrous to pretend they are happening, and at that point, they get a roasting for not telling the fans earlier. So when the next misfortune comes along, they say nothing because of past experience, and it becomes an escalating feeling of mistrust and defensiveness between owners and fans. The shirt issue in itself isn't really important, but I think not letting the fans know why they can't buy their kids a replica shirt, for the start of the new season, actually is quite important. You are right. The shirt doesnt really matter a toss. Fans being treated like mugs is symptomatic of this regime unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 17:47:19 GMT
Does the lack of a released and available away shirt really matter?
It'll be ready when it's ready. Until then unfortunately, it seems like any excuse to have a pop at the club again.
The crap facilities...the potential lack of goals in the team...the lack of creativity...the lack of pace at the back...all these things are genuine concerns and worthy of complaint. But a delay in the release of a shirt..?
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Post by pudseygas on Aug 7, 2019 18:18:07 GMT
Does the lack of a released and available away shirt really matter? It'll be ready when it's ready. Until then unfortunately, it seems like any excuse to have a pop at the club again. The crap facilities...the potential lack of goals in the team...the lack of creativity...the lack of pace at the back...all these things are genuine concerns and worthy of complaint. But a delay in the release of a shirt..? Yes it will be ready when's it's ready. But the fact there is radio silence on the new strip and the issue is ridiculous. You don't bury your head in the sand because there is a problem. You inform you customers what the hold up is and give details of how you (or your supplier) will resolve it. Simple business really. I don't really care that its late for whatever reason but disappointed by how it's been handled. A little info doesn't hurt and would it actually help really Actually, it's quite embarrassing
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 7, 2019 18:36:50 GMT
I think they've got themselves into this pickle about communication. They've become guarded and defensive about releasing news that might be negative because of criticism in the past, in my opinion. The trouble is this criticism arises to a large extent because they don't communicate with us about very much at all. They don't admit that things aren't happening until the point where it becomes ludicrous to pretend they are happening, and at that point, they get a roasting for not telling the fans earlier. So when the next misfortune comes along, they say nothing because of past experience, and it becomes an escalating feeling of mistrust and defensiveness between owners and fans. The shirt issue in itself isn't really important, but I think not letting the fans know why they can't buy their kids a replica shirt, for the start of the new season, actually is quite important. You are right. The shirt doesnt really matter a toss. Fans being treated like mugs is symptomatic of this regime unfortunately. And yet they're getting sh** on the next thread for telling us about ongoing plans for a stadium. Also, if they'd never mentioned the new screen, how much better would that have been for them. If they'd just come out with the reason for shirtgate, do you imagine the relevant threads would be full of people saying, 'Well, that's ok. Thanks for telling us. Love you. xxx'
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 7, 2019 18:41:37 GMT
I can confirm the new screen is fully up and running ready for Saturday. Or does this require a press conference?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 19:10:49 GMT
I can confirm the new screen is fully up and running ready for Saturday. Or does this require a press conference? Does it have an earth rod? Combination of Wycombe and weather means only one thing. THUNDERBOLTS AND LIGHTENING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING
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Post by aghast on Aug 7, 2019 19:31:18 GMT
You are right. The shirt doesnt really matter a toss. Fans being treated like mugs is symptomatic of this regime unfortunately. And yet they're getting sh** on the next thread for telling us about ongoing plans for a stadium. Also, if they'd never mentioned the new screen, how much better would that have been for them. If they'd just come out with the reason for shirtgate, do you imagine the relevant threads would be full of people saying, 'Well, that's ok. Thanks for telling us. Love you. xxx' But they didn't volunteer information about the fruit market. Twentyman put a direct question to Wael about it, and he answered. He would have been hard-pressed to deny it, since it was all over social media. I agree with you about the hypocrisy in some instances on this forum. If they say nothing, we slag them off. If they say something, we slag them off. And some would have moaned if they'd told us six weeks ago that the away shirts would be late. But I don't think the moaners are a majority. Just a few professional moaners with too much time on their hands. I think the overwhelming majority of posters on here could handle some bad news, and would respect the owners for telling us how and why it is. It's really frustrating to hear nothing for months on end and only get to hear from Wael when Twentyman backs him into a corner from which he cannot escape. I'm not expecting great things from the current leaders. I saw my first game in 1968, and it's been generally the same disappointing stuff throughout all those decades. That's ok. We can't all be Man City. But I would like to think that they could respect the fans enough to keep them informed. They don't seem to like doing that. That's my impression anyway.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 7, 2019 21:14:56 GMT
I can confirm the new screen is fully up and running ready for Saturday. Or does this require a press conference? Far too positive, go to the back of the room
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Post by jongas1 on Aug 7, 2019 21:39:54 GMT
Just thinking this over, from a business standpoint and possible reasons why this ‘delay’ may be a really good idea. We’ve just launched a very well received home shirt, that is a return to traditional quarters after last years design, and has nostalgic nods within it. Our supplier for whatever reason has not got enough shirts to us (or we under ordered) to meet the initial demand. I assume, that the volume of shirts we order from Macron would be greater for the home than the away. There are without doubt people waiting on the home shirt or even if it is in stock waiting for the first home match or two to be at the mem for the opportunity to purchase. If we were to release an away shirt which was equally well received, surely we run the risk of more substitute purchases of the away shirt thus potentially less home shirts. Whereas to satisfy the home demand first, then release in a week or two there may be more chance of secondary purchases of the away shirt? 🤷♂️ Either way, I don’t understand why people are getting so worked up over this, especially given prob 75% of posters in this thread will have no intention of buying one!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2019 22:04:58 GMT
Not sure anybody's getting worked up, just wondering what's going on, even Locks is taking the p now on Instra "announce the away shirt".
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 7, 2019 22:25:49 GMT
Oh I have plenty going on in my personal life, but thank you for your concern. I must say, the fact that you have the time to reply to me on a football forum would suggest you probably don't have too much on your plate also. As long as we have people like this are happy with the status quo this football club will never progress. Those are the joys retirement will bring my friend. As free as a bird, yet still not working myself into a worry over the smallest of matters, no less a football shirt. We are at home this Saturday, no change strip required until at least the 17th. No problems, at all. Is the timing of when the kit might be worn by the team the real issue here, or the fact that it's not available to buy, look at or advertise (and keep the sponsor sweet).
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 7, 2019 22:35:11 GMT
Did not notice the Blackpool fans last Saturday upset that their team was playing in last season's kit. Their new home strip is delayed and will not be available until beginning of September. And theres loads on here moaning we have not yet announced an away kit. So, is that the point of reference we should use to judge our disappointment upon? Surely you've just summed up the whole debate about us getting used to inefficient service, and accepting it.
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 7, 2019 22:41:56 GMT
You are right. The shirt doesnt really matter a toss. Fans being treated like mugs is symptomatic of this regime unfortunately. And yet they're getting sh** on the next thread for telling us about ongoing plans for a stadium. Also, if they'd never mentioned the new screen, how much better would that have been for them. If they'd just come out with the reason for shirtgate, do you imagine the relevant threads would be full of people saying, 'Well, that's ok. Thanks for telling us. Love you. xxx' Have we officially been told anything? Was just a radio interview.
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Post by Gasshole on Aug 7, 2019 23:20:11 GMT
Comms need to improve, we’re Rovers fans we can handle bad news. It’s just another kick in the ballox
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