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Post by Gassy on Jan 30, 2020 13:54:48 GMT
Right... You're not really making sense. Let's look at the facts: - Wael says they're looking at the FM - Media reports on it - darkbluegas says it's the media/club is lying/making it up - darkbluegas is also making it up as they have no proof I'm not saying that it's happening, I'm just pointing out the beautiful irony of your logic - which quite frankly, there isn't any. (Woops! Fact or am I making it up?) Yeah & you haven’t mentioned the bit about Father Christmas being a myth-I know he’s making it up but FFS We all know what Father Christmas does for this club. Anyone who doubt's him isn't a real supporter
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 30, 2020 15:07:08 GMT
Unless you are in direct contact with Total Produce/their agents & the developers agents etc how can it be 100% fact? You may believe it is but that doesn't make it a fact. This conversation is madness. Total Produce may or may not be in discussions with developers of the site. They may buy it and they decide to turn it into a retail complex a car lot or a Snowdome, who knows. I’ve yet to hear any developer say they’re thinking of building a football stadium. Again unless anyone knows differently. I take no pleasure in this and it feels like telling the kids that there’s no Santa Claus it’s just horrible to watch other Gasheads get their hopes up on the basis on the square root of nothing. I don’t know how long you’ve lived in Bristol but there is a precedent for this fantasy. As far who would want to build a ground for us, I’ve yet to see any argument that goes some way to suggesting that the finance would in anyway benefit the football club. I’m sure though that many a developer would love to get their hands on the Mem. All the time we believe this nonsense of a new ground again the club is getting into deeper financial problems. So maybe pedalling this myth may serve someone’s purpose to get their hands on the ground when the club Is despate or the Administrators deem it prudent to sell the asset. We often hear that it’s not C££y we should be comparing ourselves with but it’s that organisation that benefits from out stagnation. In the 20 years at the Mem the facility’s have barely improved and young families must have an easy decision when deciding where to spend their sporting pounds in Bristol. This fantasy stadium talk has played straight into Lansdowns hands. He must take great joy in watching this play out while our actual home crumbles around us. Agree......but if it’s on Gaschat it’s a Gaschat FACT.....Surely?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2020 7:17:49 GMT
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 31, 2020 7:34:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 7:39:25 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 8:10:44 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking. It’s fine, the Old Guard (Ed Ware et al) the Americans and a currently unnamed Consortium are all saddling up to ride over the horizon to build us a shiny new stadium and it’s costing us nothing, haven’t you heard.
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 31, 2020 8:17:07 GMT
We can just drop canvas, and set up camp on the Downs. Too easy.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2020 8:32:56 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking.Why, what bills aren't the club paying??
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 8:59:13 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking.Why, what bills aren't the club paying?? In simple terms it’s like someone taking out an interest only mortgage on their own home to pay the monthly bills, without increasing their income. Eventually the money runs out and there’s no asset to borrow anymore money against. The consequences are if you’ve still not increased your income you still can’t pay your bills and now you have a mortgage to pay. Then your house gets repossessed. That’s why the clocks ticking
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2020 10:11:07 GMT
Why, what bills aren't the club paying?? In simple terms it’s like someone taking out an interest only mortgage on their own home to pay the monthly bills, without increasing their income. Eventually the money runs out and there’s no asset to borrow anymore money against. The consequences are if you’ve still not increased your income you still can’t pay your bills and now you have a mortgage to pay. Then your house gets repossessed. That’s why the clocks ticking Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 10:29:22 GMT
In simple terms it’s like someone taking out an interest only mortgage on their own home to pay the monthly bills, without increasing their income. Eventually the money runs out and there’s no asset to borrow anymore money against. The consequences are if you’ve still not increased your income you still can’t pay your bills and now you have a mortgage to pay. Then your house gets repossessed. That’s why the clocks ticking Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are. If you’d been doing that, then there’d be no need to take a mortgage out to pay your bills. I didn’t say a mortgage to buy a property. This is what lead to the property crash, in part, in the eighties and then nineties. The ALQ didn’t mortgage the ground to buy it, they mortgaged it to keep us afloat. They have no club war chest, they’ve always said it must be sustainable. The borrowing against the ground is to keep things going until revenue increases. If it doesn’t we WILL go bust.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 12:52:32 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking.Why, what bills aren't the club paying?? Sorry that was terse. Ticking until there is a major change.
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Post by simon1883 on Jan 31, 2020 12:55:17 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking. Exactly.... and this is why the vultures are starting to circle. Wael is losing it slowly........ hopefully the saviours arrive in time
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 31, 2020 13:01:04 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking. Is it a cuckoo clock?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2020 13:04:35 GMT
Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are. If you’d been doing that, then there’d be no need to take a mortgage out to pay your bills. I didn’t say a mortgage to buy a property. This is what lead to the property crash, in part, in the eighties and then nineties. The ALQ didn’t mortgage the ground to buy it, they mortgaged it to keep us afloat. They have no club war chest, they’ve always said it must be sustainable. The borrowing against the ground is to keep things going until revenue increases. If it doesn’t we WILL go bust. I think you are confusing the ALQ's having a charge on the Mem with a mortgage when they are two different things, we've no idea who they are funding the club. It could be just their income or savings.
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Post by knowall on Jan 31, 2020 13:45:06 GMT
In simple terms it’s like someone taking out an interest only mortgage on their own home to pay the monthly bills, without increasing their income. Eventually the money runs out and there’s no asset to borrow anymore money against. The consequences are if you’ve still not increased your income you still can’t pay your bills and now you have a mortgage to pay. Then your house gets repossessed. That’s why the clocks ticking Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are. It is FOUR YEARS next month since the Al-Qadi family bought BRFC, I am sure that we have seen in that time what their intentions are? A brand new stadium, a new training ground, a fully functioning Board of Directors - NO?, but we do have plans for a new stadium, plans for a new training ground, NO? but we have plans submitted to modernise our current stadium NO?, Ah well, but we only owe about £15 million YES! No doubt our President will soon reveal all.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 31, 2020 13:46:57 GMT
Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are. It is FOUR YEARS next month since the Al-Qadi family bought BRFC, I am sure that we have seen in that time what their intentions are? A brand new stadium, a new training ground, a fully functioning Board of Directors - NO?, but we do have plans for a new stadium, plans for a new training ground, NO? but we have plans submitted to modernise our current stadium NO?, Ah well, but we only owe about £15 million YES! No doubt our President will soon reveal all. I wouldn't bank on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 13:47:55 GMT
Not if I've been saving money every month and have more than sufficient money to pay down my mortgage should the need every arise. We just don't know what the ALQ's intentions are. It is FOUR YEARS next month since the Al-Qadi family bought BRFC, I am sure that we have seen in that time what their intentions are? A brand new stadium, a new training ground, a fully functioning Board of Directors - NO?, but we do have plans for a new stadium, plans for a new training ground, NO? but we have plans submitted to modernise our current stadium NO?, Ah well, but we only owe about £15 million YES! No doubt our President will soon reveal all. haha dont be so sure
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Post by CheshireGas on Jan 31, 2020 14:21:46 GMT
Thing is, they are managing within their budget and improving things each season. Small changes but over a period make a big difference and cost effective. If the level of our ambition stretches to creating a bigger shop and calling it a superstore, a refurbished bar and a big screen that certain parts of the ground cannot even see then I can’t say I’m excited about the future. I was responding to the comment and criticism of Accrington's ground rather than saying we should not be ambitious. We have a lot of potential to offer to someone with a bit of cash and ambition. Plus we have only one noisy neighbour and a huge catchment area. However we need someone who wants to invest in a football club not an asset stripper, if there is anything left to strip!
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 14:43:08 GMT
If you’d been doing that, then there’d be no need to take a mortgage out to pay your bills. I didn’t say a mortgage to buy a property. This is what lead to the property crash, in part, in the eighties and then nineties. The ALQ didn’t mortgage the ground to buy it, they mortgaged it to keep us afloat. They have no club war chest, they’ve always said it must be sustainable. The borrowing against the ground is to keep things going until revenue increases. If it doesn’t we WILL go bust. I think you are confusing the ALQ's having a charge on the Mem with a mortgage when they are two different things, we've no idea who they are funding the club. It could be just their income or savings. I know they're two different things i was just trying to keep it simple, for the purposes of illustration. Of course you maybe right the ALQ's could be funding it out of their own pocket despite them always saying the club had to be self sustaining. Good luck with your belief in the magic money tree they have back in Jordan
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