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Post by kruger on Apr 7, 2023 7:51:45 GMT
Its good news,but will some of us old bastards live long enough to actually see it built? Fingers crossed once again. It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. I was feeling quite happy until I read this, now I feel low |
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Post by garystash on Apr 7, 2023 7:53:58 GMT
It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. I was feeling quite happy until I read this, now I feel low Sorry bud. Those are the timescales. Let's enjoy the Mem and the unique atmosphere it creates while we are there! :-) |
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Post by eric on Apr 7, 2023 8:02:38 GMT
Its good news,but will some of us old bastards live long enough to actually see it built? Fingers crossed once again. It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. Why would the purchase of the land take 2-3 years? Surely a lot of that background work will have been done behind the scenes by now - didn’t talks start back in 2019? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 7, 2023 8:11:01 GMT
Its good news,but will some of us old bastards live long enough to actually see it built? Fingers crossed once again. It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. I think some of that problem is sorted because wasn’t negotiations based on the FM already having a site relocation sorted? I believe this to be done now. I agree we are looking at least 18 months-2 years before land transfer happens. The quicker PP is cracked on with and designs done the quicker the purchase can happen. |
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Post by garystash on Apr 7, 2023 8:20:03 GMT
It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. Why would the purchase of the land take 2-3 years? Surely a lot of that background work will have been done behind the scenes by now - didn’t talks start back in 2019? Unfortunately I've no idea why it will take that long. I'm just passing on some info I was given. My guess would be that they're not going to buy the land until plans are submitted, agreed, and the financials are all worked out. My reading of the Conygar statement is that they will explore several options for the site, then pick the one that makes most sense. That will all take some time. |
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Post by garystash on Apr 7, 2023 8:22:09 GMT
It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. I think some of that problem is sorted because wasn’t negotiations based on the FM already having a site relocation sorted? I believe this to be done now. I agree we are looking at least 18 months-2 years before land transfer happens. The quicker PP is cracked on with and designs done the quicker the purchase can happen. Maybe the two years for them to find an alternative site has a fair contingency built into it? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 7, 2023 8:25:43 GMT
Its good news,but will some of us old bastards live long enough to actually see it built? Fingers crossed once again. It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. Assuming a deal in principle has been agreed why will it take 2-3 years to do the legal work, it's 14 acres of land not the entire centre of Bristol being purchased? |
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 7, 2023 8:28:27 GMT
Why would the purchase of the land take 2-3 years? Surely a lot of that background work will have been done behind the scenes by now - didn’t talks start back in 2019? Unfortunately I've no idea why it will take that long. I'm just passing on some info I was given. My guess would be that they're not going to buy the land until plans are submitted, agreed, and the financials are all worked out. My reading of the Conygar statement is that they will explore several options for the site, then pick the one that makes most sense. That will all take some time. This is it. Predictably, some people are ignoring this and talking about stadium designs already! |
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 7, 2023 8:28:41 GMT
It's a good question. The purchase of the land will take 2-3 years to go through. Then the current tenants will be given 2 years to find a new home. That means it will be 4-5 years minimum before building can even start. I was feeling quite happy until I read this, now I feel low surely timescale will be a lot shorter then that. The fruit people will already have a location either as land or already built near avonmouth.as for a stadium our size about 18 months to build.spurs ground took 3 years building around a existing layout and thats for a 60 plus capacity. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 7, 2023 8:31:34 GMT
Why would the purchase of the land take 2-3 years? Surely a lot of that background work will have been done behind the scenes by now - didn’t talks start back in 2019? Unfortunately I've no idea why it will take that long. I'm just passing on some info I was given. My guess would be that they're not going to buy the land until plans are submitted, agreed, and the financials are all worked out. My reading of the Conygar statement is that they will explore several options for the site, then pick the one that makes most sense. That will all take some time. I sense that's nonsense as they are not going to spend £m's with various plans for the site not including a stadium when they've been speaking to BCC and Rovers for 2 years about a stadium. A new stadium looks like the center piece for the whole St Phillips Marsh development. I wouldn't be surprised if Congyer developed most of the SPM area eventually. |
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 7, 2023 8:31:44 GMT
I was feeling quite happy until I read this, now I feel low surely timescale will be a lot shorter then that. The fruit people will already have a location either as land or already built near avonmouth.as for a stadium our size about 18 months to build.spurs ground took 3 years building around a existing layout and thats for a 60 plus capacity. That project was announced in 2008 and opened in 2019.(wiki) We are pre announcement of anything, so let's not be impatient already. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 7, 2023 8:32:21 GMT
Why would the purchase of the land take 2-3 years? Surely a lot of that background work will have been done behind the scenes by now - didn’t talks start back in 2019? Unfortunately I've no idea why it will take that long. I'm just passing on some info I was given. My guess would be that they're not going to buy the land until plans are submitted, agreed, and the financials are all worked out. My reading of the Conygar statement is that they will explore several options for the site, then pick the one that makes most sense. That will all take some time. KP also passed on info not too long ago! |
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Post by garystash on Apr 7, 2023 8:52:25 GMT
Unfortunately I've no idea why it will take that long. I'm just passing on some info I was given. My guess would be that they're not going to buy the land until plans are submitted, agreed, and the financials are all worked out. My reading of the Conygar statement is that they will explore several options for the site, then pick the one that makes most sense. That will all take some time. KP also passed on info not too long ago! I'm not sure if you mean it, but you are coming across with quite an aggressive tone. Just ignore me if you want, I'm fine with that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 8:58:46 GMT
KP also passed on info not too long ago! I'm not sure if you mean it, but you are coming across with quite an aggressive tone. Just ignore me if you want, I'm fine with that. Such a shame that both Wael and Tom refused to be interviewed by Geoff Twentyman last night. All of the simple questions could have been answered without any fear of breaking any confidentiality. KP wasn't wrong, we were out of the room but we aren't now and that's what matters. As somebody said, Rovers have friends in high places which has helped to get this back on track. Lets enjoy the ride now that the news is more positive. |
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Post by Jomo on Apr 7, 2023 9:06:27 GMT
Is the Fruit Market and Memorial Ground sites of similar size? C’mon Jomo it’s been a while Haha it has indeed! 1. Cardiff City Stadium (33,280) - 91,296 m2 2. Liberty Stadium (21,088) - 58,713 m2 3. Deepdale, Preston (23,404) - 52,778 m2 4. Fruit Market Site (?) - 52,292 m2 5. DW Stadium, Wigan (25,138) - 50,382 m2 6. Molineux Stadium (31,700) - 42,793 m2 7. Amex Stadium (30,666) - 42,461 m2 8. Madejski Stadium (24,161) - 40,998 m2 9. Ashton Gate (27,000) - 35,195 m2 10. NY Stadium, Rotherham (12,021) - 31,828 m2 11. Mem Site (12,300 ) - 28,576 m2  |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 7, 2023 9:27:36 GMT
Another issue to consider is the sell of the MEM. I assume the package is reliant on the transfer of funds from Mem deal. What will they be building at Mem ?. Given the headache of articulate educated middle class activist who know the legal system inside out . Will the revamped Trash : Horfield Rose : Greens not oppose and defer any alternative project at the Mem. Will this new company want the headache and bad publicity which awaits them locally in Horfield having purchased land at the Mem ?.
This is why any plans now for an upgrade on the Mem will fly through with NO opposition. They know full well ( activist) if they oppose a proposed south stand it will be used against them . So we have two minefields like a housing chain !.
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Post by dudelebowski on Apr 7, 2023 9:37:20 GMT
Wael slamming the Gas colours right into the heart of Bristol outta nowhere, its Souness 1996 all over again😍💙 Attachment DeletedAbsolutely majestic! |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 7, 2023 9:43:44 GMT
The club should still get on and build a south stand . There is talk Bath Rugby and the cricket are moving but they still build semi permanent stands. We will have No seats soon for home games : sell outs and very small away allocation. Although I welcome FM it's a longshot and for the next 3-5 years we need to improve the Mem.
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Post by gaelgas on Apr 7, 2023 10:15:23 GMT
I'm naturally quite a pessimist, especially where Rovers are concerned, but I do wonder, if this is not at least 75% certain, why the club would produce a video like that plaster it over twitter, particularly given our track record of failing to get a new stadium built. There was no pressure on the club to make any kind of announcement, well no more than usual, and definitely not a high profile one like this, so I guess there must be something in this. I'm the same. But where I'd remain the same on this case, is that the club also went public on all of the previous stadium ventures. There are more variables to this one than UWE or redeveloping the Mem afaics. Yeah I totally get that, maybe I'm being naïve but I was just thinking that maybe they've learned the lessons of the past and waited until there is a really good chance of this happening before going public, especially in such an in your face way. I love the video but it really doesn't leave much wiggle room with regards to whether this is happening. Like I said, maybe it's naïvety or wishful thinking but it's a pretty strong statement of intent. |
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 7, 2023 10:31:30 GMT
Up the Fruity we will go EIEIEIO
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