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Post by chewbacca on Sept 12, 2023 9:32:55 GMT
The other option was calling him thick as mince, I thought Wally was more polite. But he's not thick ,naive I suspect ,but not thick The proof is in the pudding and the pudding has been burnt and he used ketamine instead of flour. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2023 9:42:18 GMT
I can hardly wait for the club statement on this latest failure. Expecting the same old excuses, everybody else’s fault, not the best deal for the future of Bristol Rovers, we are looking at other potential sites, topped off with we need to be patient blah blah b##dy blah. I really should know better by now, but no I always end up wanting to believe the crap that comes from this club despite the voice in my head saying its more bullish#t. Is there a way forward for this club or are it destined to exist in this perpetual state of limbo forevermore. You missed "these things take time" |
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Post by milo on Sept 12, 2023 9:44:55 GMT
Prefer we move on from the pipe dream and see the Mem get a few quid spent on it, and redeveloped in a piecemeal fashion to be fair And that will probably allow us to watch lower league football ( if we're lucky ) for the rest of our lives. No wonder we will always be the 2nd team in Bristol with that type of ambition. If you could swap the ups and downs of the lower leagues we have had in recent years, for consistently sitting in the Championship not doing much, what would you go for? All I am saying, is that watching the Gas at the Mem in League One, its not so bad; so long as incremental improvements happen at the ground to improve the match day experience where needed. Getting a new stadium isn't the be all and end all for some.. |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 12, 2023 9:55:14 GMT
The thing with the fruit market is I can't believe we were ever anywhere near it being a viable deal. We never even got to see an artist's impression of what was being proposed. From 2019 until earlier this year we didn't hear anything further on it. That was three years of no updates. I do question how serious we ever really were about the fruit market. I remember when the UWE proposal collapsed I thought surely they must have been working on a plan B. It seems funny that we were told that the new owners have been heavily involved in the fruit market discussions. Was this true? as the BP article seems to suggest that we walked away some time ago. It feels like we've been fed BS I never considered it any less viable than next to a university or Filton airfield or any of the other sites that have been mentioned. I don’t think Bristol has a lot of available space for a stadium and even less available space that is owned by anyone daft enough to go into any agreement with our lot. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 12, 2023 9:56:36 GMT
And that will probably allow us to watch lower league football ( if we're lucky ) for the rest of our lives. No wonder we will always be the 2nd team in Bristol with that type of ambition. If you could swap the ups and downs of the lower leagues we have had in recent years, for consistently sitting in the Championship not doing much, what would you go for? All I am saying, is that watching the Gas at the Mem in League One, its not so bad; so long as incremental improvements happen at the ground to improve the match day experience where needed. Getting a new stadium isn't the be all and end all for some.. Championship obviously ,with the extra revenue ,I mean (promotion aside) we've seen some awful sh** in recent seasons , Garner springs to mind. Not good for the blood pressure. Saying that us sittin in lg one is not a bad thing considering the off field circus , but I'm still waiting to see this
Barton inspired push to the top. Home form is diabolical....
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 10:01:06 GMT
There is a very, very tiny part of me that thinks some of our fans deserved Higgs to remain and for us to linger around for a couple of years living off payday loans before we followed Bury. I’m as gutted as everyone with our inability to secure a new ground in a new location but I recognise it isn’t easy and I’m 100% convinced Wael will have been doing his best and never doing anything that me be detrimental to our long term future.
As a club are we in a better place now than when Wael arrived? - massively imo.
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Post by justin blue on Sept 12, 2023 10:03:40 GMT
And that will probably allow us to watch lower league football ( if we're lucky ) for the rest of our lives. No wonder we will always be the 2nd team in Bristol with that type of ambition. If you could swap the ups and downs of the lower leagues we have had in recent years, for consistently sitting in the Championship not doing much, what would you go for? All I am saying, is that watching the Gas at the Mem in League One, it’s not so bad; so long as incremental improvements happen at the ground to improve the match day experience where needed. Getting a new stadium isn't the be all and end all for some.. Championship for sure I can’t believe anyone would choose what we have been through the last twenty or so years over playing quality and some premiership ready sides every week. |
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 12, 2023 10:03:41 GMT
There is a very, very tiny part of me that thinks some of our fans deserved Higgs to remain and for us to linger around for a couple of years living off payday loans before we followed Bury. I’m as gutted as everyone with our inability to secure a new ground in a new location but I recognise it isn’t easy and I’m 100% convinced Wael will have been doing his best and never doing anything that me be detrimental to our long term future. As a club are we in a better place now than when Wael arrived? - massively imo. Imagine if folk "doing their best" was used in other jobs... Yeah, my father died the other day because of a massive surgical cock up - Can't moan, the surgeon tried his best. |
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 10:11:41 GMT
There is a very, very tiny part of me that thinks some of our fans deserved Higgs to remain and for us to linger around for a couple of years living off payday loans before we followed Bury. I’m as gutted as everyone with our inability to secure a new ground in a new location but I recognise it isn’t easy and I’m 100% convinced Wael will have been doing his best and never doing anything that me be detrimental to our long term future. As a club are we in a better place now than when Wael arrived? - massively imo. Imagine if folk "doing their best" was used in other jobs... Yeah, my father died the other day because of a massive surgical cock up - Can't moan, the surgeon tried his best. Has Wael ‘cocking up’ caused the apparent failure of the FM project? |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Sept 12, 2023 10:14:58 GMT
There is a very, very tiny part of me that thinks some of our fans deserved Higgs to remain and for us to linger around for a couple of years living off payday loans before we followed Bury. I’m as gutted as everyone with our inability to secure a new ground in a new location but I recognise it isn’t easy and I’m 100% convinced Wael will have been doing his best and never doing anything that me be detrimental to our long term future. As a club are we in a better place now than when Wael arrived? - massively imo. Imagine if folk "doing their best" was used in other jobs... Yeah, my father died the other day because of a massive surgical cock up - Can't moan, the surgeon tried his best. That's what happens every day in every situation people do their best. What will you do when or if we get new or redeveloped Men? You can't put it on your shelf? Can you? |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Sept 12, 2023 10:15:41 GMT
Mem*
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 12, 2023 10:22:12 GMT
There is a very, very tiny part of me that thinks some of our fans deserved Higgs to remain and for us to linger around for a couple of years living off payday loans before we followed Bury. I’m as gutted as everyone with our inability to secure a new ground in a new location but I recognise it isn’t easy and I’m 100% convinced Wael will have been doing his best and never doing anything that me be detrimental to our long term future. As a club are we in a better place now than when Wael arrived? - massively imo. Imagine if folk "doing their best" was used in other jobs... Yeah, my father died the other day because of a massive surgical cock up - Can't moan, the surgeon tried his best. It’s not Waels job though is it. He’s funding the club from his day to day job. Without Wael doing his best we’d be lucky to have a club. Before he came we were saddled with debt. Wael has invested in training facilities, more development in the stadium than at any other point in our time there as full owners (no matter how modest it may seem). Possibly our strongest squad in over 20 years at L1 level. |
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Post by gasheadmichal on Sept 12, 2023 10:24:13 GMT
Looks like we're unlucky with the stadium.
So get used to it.
No expectations will give peace of mind.
Stop, don't think.
Let it go.
Have fun.
Hehe
UTG
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Sept 12, 2023 10:29:08 GMT
I wonder what the point was in Hussain coming in and buying a majority shareholding in the club just to walk out in 5 minutes from presumably his first meeting with the developers of the FM? Wael either needs the money back on what he’s spent on us so far, or this guy is just bought into a club he knows nothing about?
To come in and within weeks do the same thing Wael did with the UWE development is a bit odd? And that’s being kind.
With the JCH deal and the stand debacle so close it makes me wonder why he’s bought in.
It’ll never happen now imo
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Post by madgas on Sept 12, 2023 10:29:39 GMT
A couple points of order:
1) it's not in the owners interests for stadium improvement, until we have a decent stadium- the club burns a whole in the pockets of those holding the club up.
2) why is this unsorced nonsense being held up as true?
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2023 10:33:01 GMT
I'm reminded again of the UWE failure. Are we sure the terms back then weren't favourable for the football club? Could it be they were favourable to the football club, but not Wael himself?
Professor West said: “It is disappointing and very surprising. We felt we had made fantastic progress. We are disappointed that we haven’t been able to give Bristol Rovers and the local community a high quality stadium.”
The Vice Chancellor claims he has had no contact from Dwane Sports despite sending emails. There are no meetings between the club and the university currently in the diary.
Professor West said:“We are working off the assumption that there has been a pull out by Dwane Sports who have announced that they are closing discussions."
There appears to be poor levels of communication again this time with the Fruit Market having reportedly failed to agree on anything really. Years and years and years...no agreement reached on the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all/how it’ll be funded or how the revenue share will work. Other than leading us up the garden path for years, it's hard to know what they were actually doing all this time and what was actually agreed on? All very, very strange.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 12, 2023 10:33:38 GMT
In what way? If the club was to just come out and say we are staying at the Mem and would develop what we can that would probably please some fans and accepted in time by those who are disappointed. I think it's the waiting years for another project to fail, only to have another carrot dangled. Like the FM is near collapse, but but we are in talks with YTL apparently, which if gathered some momentum, you would not be mad for betting against it failing. As someone else posted, what is the right deal for the club? Calling our owner "Wally" People saying they are throwing their Season Tickets on the pitch Forgetting how much we have improved (Mem aside) Looking at what could happen with terrible owners I am as disappointed as anyone, but we dont know the story yet, if there are negotiations ongoing the club is best not going public. They (or one of the other parties) may have leaked it for their own leverage tho. We do make things worse and have made some big mistakes (that video, STs for a stand with no PP etc) but let's keep some perspective and not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Well I don't know who called Wael Wally. And totally agree, I don't think that is anything to do with perspective though, who ever it was was just being a bit disrespectful. Wael has done alot of good for us. But the handling of now 2 stadium project, is now questionable. But you are right, we don't know the full story. But as we all know the club are so reluctant to share any information as it is apparently confidential. |
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Post by percy on Sept 12, 2023 10:38:53 GMT
Calling our owner "Wally" People saying they are throwing their Season Tickets on the pitch Forgetting how much we have improved (Mem aside) Looking at what could happen with terrible owners I am as disappointed as anyone, but we dont know the story yet, if there are negotiations ongoing the club is best not going public. They (or one of the other parties) may have leaked it for their own leverage tho. We do make things worse and have made some big mistakes (that video, STs for a stand with no PP etc) but let's keep some perspective and not throw the baby out with the bathwater. And totally agree, I don't think that is anything to do with perspective though, who ever it was was just being a bit disrespectful. Wael has done alot of good for us. But the handling of now 2 stadium project, is now questionable. But you are right, we don't know the full story. But as we all know the club are so reluctant to share any information as it is apparently confidential. a couple have, and getting worse. And respected members of the forum "liking" him being called "thick as mince". All pretty pathetic and disrespectful imho. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 12, 2023 10:40:48 GMT
To have no updates between Aug 2019 and April or whenever it was this year is pretty shocking mind , covid aside And then to seemingly pull out now....no communication means anxiety
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Post by singupgas on Sept 12, 2023 10:42:48 GMT
Well I don't know who called Wael Wally. And totally agree, I don't think that is anything to do with perspective though, who ever it was was just being a bit disrespectful. Wael has done alot of good for us. But the handling of now 2 stadium project, is now questionable. But you are right, we don't know the full story. But as we all know the club are so reluctant to share any information as it is apparently confidential. a couple have, and getting worse. And respected members of the forum "liking" him being called "thick as mince". All pretty pathetic and disrespectful imho. Like I said I agree. I prefer to post on the subject matter. |
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