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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 15:36:15 GMT
That's just the same for Oxford at present and, fairly recently, Wimbledon and Brentford, further back in time Swansea, Reading & Brighton etc managed it, regardless if Rovers can't afford it then why keep pretending they can? What's the point in having mega rich foreign owners if they can't deliver a new stadium? We have not got mega rich owners and will never be able to afford a new stadium. I'd say anybody prepared to spend £3m/£4m annually on basically a hobby is mega rich. You've no real idea if they can afford a new stadium or not, given in the past you claimed Wael was working undercover for Lansdown. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 15:37:50 GMT
That's just the same for Oxford at present and, fairly recently, Wimbledon and Brentford, further back in time Swansea, Reading & Brighton etc managed it, regardless if Rovers can't afford it then why keep pretending they can? What's the point in having mega rich foreign owners if they can't deliver a new stadium? Do they need to,I would be happy with a significantly up graded Mem,including toilets, hospitality etc,a capacity in-between 15-20k if that's doable surely at a fraction of the cost of a new stadium,then great Not sure it would cost a fraction of the cost if we redeveloped the whole ground to a decent stadium. Plus we'd have to somehow overcome planning issues we wouldn't have to worry about at the FM or UWE. |
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 17, 2023 15:59:59 GMT
Do they need to,I would be happy with a significantly up graded Mem,including toilets, hospitality etc,a capacity in-between 15-20k if that's doable surely at a fraction of the cost of a new stadium,then great Not sure it would cost a fraction of the cost if we redeveloped the whole ground to a decent stadium. Plus we'd have to somehow overcome planning issues we wouldn't have to worry about at the FM or UWE. If you are going for a complete rebuild, proper job, then greenfield site will always be cheaper than on existing site but that depends on a couple of things. Being able to find a piece of land and having the finance to build it. A compromise approach would be to make some redevelopment of the mem but don't blow 10s of Million on it. which is what I think the current plan is. I think we should be able to get an OK £16-18K stadium like this. |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 17, 2023 16:02:38 GMT
Yep and he's done and built more in that time.....  Quarters?? |
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Post by aghast on Oct 17, 2023 16:06:30 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. They borrow it, or find someone else to fund it, like the vast majority of clubs in the FL. It's not rocket science. We just haven't found someone willing to cough up who we actually want to be in bed with. Even when we do find a partner, like UWE or the FM, we walk away because we're well 'ard and nobody messes us about. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 16:17:55 GMT
Not sure it would cost a fraction of the cost if we redeveloped the whole ground to a decent stadium. Plus we'd have to somehow overcome planning issues we wouldn't have to worry about at the FM or UWE. If you are going for a complete rebuild, proper job, then greenfield site will always be cheaper than on existing site but that depends on a couple of things. Being able to find a piece of land and having the finance to build it. A compromise approach would be to make some redevelopment of the mem but don't blow 10s of Million on it. which is what I think the current plan is. I think we should be able to get an OK £16-18K stadium like this. We've no real idea what the current plan is, the new stand seems to have been signed off by Wael before the new owners came on board and I can't recall them ever suggesting they've even considered redeveloping the Mem. Completely redeveloping the Mem to a reasonable standard seems a massive task, not even sure the new stand would fit into such a development. |
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 17, 2023 16:42:10 GMT
We have not got mega rich owners and will never be able to afford a new stadium. I'd say anybody prepared to spend £3m/£4m annually on basically a hobby is mega rich. You've no real idea if they can afford a new stadium or not, given in the past you claimed Wael was working undercover for Lansdown. We all have our own views and you have to accept that as we do yours, sometimes. You do not know who to back, the ones in favour at the moment seem to suit you, grow a pair and be honest with who your with. This forum is ours and our views and not just for you. Up The Pirates. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 17, 2023 16:57:39 GMT
Just realised that the council are leasing the land for Oxford to build their new stadium.
That also depends on Oxford complying with loads of building requirements that the council are insisting on. The pictures of the new stadium are just that at present and Oxford have admitted they may have to alter lots of their ideas to satisfy the council.
For instance they don’t yet know whether the roof will be steel or wood and a lot of plastics will have to be used in place of glass.
Can’t see them being able to sort the whole thing out in three years before they have to vacate their present site.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 16:58:11 GMT
I'd say anybody prepared to spend £3m/£4m annually on basically a hobby is mega rich. You've no real idea if they can afford a new stadium or not, given in the past you claimed Wael was working undercover for Lansdown. We all have our own views and you have to accept that as we do yours, sometimes. You do not know who to back, the ones in favour at the moment seem to suit you, grow a pair and be honest with who your with. This forum is ours and our views and not just for you. Up The Pirates. Your the one making statements not me, I haven't a clue what the new owners intentions are, you clearly don't either. |
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 17, 2023 17:11:11 GMT
We all have our own views and you have to accept that as we do yours, sometimes. You do not know who to back, the ones in favour at the moment seem to suit you, grow a pair and be honest with who your with. This forum is ours and our views and not just for you. Up The Pirates. Your the one making statements not me, I haven't a clue what the new owners intentions are, you clearly don't either. You have not got a clue what the owners intentions are as you say so best keep quiet on the subject, but that will be hard for you as you always have something to say, not always right though. So many posts just annoying others, saddo bye for know Lansdowns buddy. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 17, 2023 17:11:40 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. Only QPR, Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol Rovers and Grimsby Town out of the 92 haven't built a new permanent stand or stadium in the last 30 years. Board after board after board have bullshitted the supporters with drawings, designs, campaigns, videos and appointing stadium advisors. How can 95% of the Football League something that is apparently not achievable for us? Great post and what makes it even worse is so many non league clubs put our facilities to shame.I sometimes wonder who on earth is running the show.When Mr Wael and Co' came in the impressive list of new wealthy directors was beyond belief with even an expert stadium Guy appointed who had seemingly overseen the new Wembley .Very soon they left one by one for 'Family Reasons'. Rather more than thirty years re no new build in our case sadly. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 17:25:23 GMT
Only QPR, Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol Rovers and Grimsby Town out of the 92 haven't built a new permanent stand or stadium in the last 30 years. Board after board after board have bullshitted the supporters with drawings, designs, campaigns, videos and appointing stadium advisors. How can 95% of the Football League something that is apparently not achievable for us? Great post and what makes it even worse is so many non league clubs put our facilities to shame.I sometimes wonder who on earth is running the show.When Mr Wael and Co' came in the impressive list of new wealthy directors was beyond belief with even an expert stadium Guy appointed who had seemingly overseen the new Wembley .Very soon they left one by one for 'Family Reasons'.Apart from the Al-Qadi's I can't recall any of previous the Directors being particularly wealthy nor leaving for family reasons? |
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 17, 2023 17:45:22 GMT
Great post and what makes it even worse is so many non league clubs put our facilities to shame.I sometimes wonder who on earth is running the show.When Mr Wael and Co' came in the impressive list of new wealthy directors was beyond belief with even an expert stadium Guy appointed who had seemingly overseen the new Wembley .Very soon they left one by one for 'Family Reasons'.Apart from the Al-Qadi's I can't recall any of previous the Directors being particularly wealthy nor leaving for family reasons? Typical post, say no more. |
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 17, 2023 18:31:27 GMT
Yep and he's done and built more in that time..... I miss our tents.  |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 17, 2023 18:52:20 GMT
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 17, 2023 21:19:19 GMT
An absolutely ok League One/Two training facility keeps getting thrown around like it’s a true triumph when in reality it was a case of build it or we literally have no where to train. It’s a Pavilion and a few pitches similar to what you’ll see at most local rugby and football clubs. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 17, 2023 21:25:16 GMT
An absolutely ok League One/Two training facility keeps getting thrown around like it’s a true triumph when in reality it was a case of build it or we literally have no where to train. It’s a Pavilion and a few pitches similar to what you’ll see at most local rugby and football clubs. Excellent pitches though by all accounts. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 17, 2023 21:54:21 GMT
An absolutely ok League One/Two training facility keeps getting thrown around like it’s a true triumph when in reality it was a case of build it or we literally have no where to train. It’s a Pavilion and a few pitches similar to what you’ll see at most local rugby and football clubs. It's still had to be bought, funded and built, it's more than we've had in a long time. As for nowhere to train, it's been suggested we could have shared with Clifton Rugby. I would class it as a success. |
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 17, 2023 22:28:39 GMT
An absolutely ok League One/Two training facility keeps getting thrown around like it’s a true triumph when in reality it was a case of build it or we literally have no where to train. It’s a Pavilion and a few pitches similar to what you’ll see at most local rugby and football clubs. Excellent pitches though by all accounts. Don’t forget the Lagoon….Have our red friends got a Lagoon…..No they fkin ain’t. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2023 7:15:10 GMT
An absolutely ok League One/Two training facility keeps getting thrown around like it’s a true triumph when in reality it was a case of build it or we literally have no where to train. It’s a Pavilion and a few pitches similar to what you’ll see at most local rugby and football clubs. It was still a sizable investment by the club, something no other owner has ever managed to do in the club's history, Hambrook was just a basic pitch and some portakabins, the club even had to sell that to help with its survival. |
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