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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 0:16:31 GMT
Am I being daft- because it makes perfect sense to me that a consortium would only be interested in us if we had a ‘proper’ stadium in the works. We can’t realistically be bought out at the mem as who would be mad enough to pay the 17 million for a league one club with an asset you can’t sell until a new home has been built. It would effectively be money down the drain. The new stadium is needed to unlock the potential of the club, that has to come first before anyone will want to take the club further But people were moaning saying Wael cost us a takeover and the people were gasheads who only wanted what was best for us. No they are the same as anyone else and only want to do it, if it's not costing then millions a season with no return. Like anyone else. Atleast the family kept funding us in the mean time. The other investors, didn't want to. So if the family felt the same, we would be another Bury/Bolton. So why the abuse at the family?? They have kept us going, while no one else wanted to. We don’t know who this consortium is yet. Was knowall suggesting they are gasheads? I recall rumours about Ed Ware but also about the Southampton construction company so to my mind IF there is a consortium then the makeup of it is still unknown and not a given it’s Rovers related. But that being said, even if they are Gasheads would you expect people to buy into Rovers in their current guise? If you won a modest sum on the lottery would you commit funds to Rovers while we are 17 million in debt with the ground already secured against someone else’s debt? It just doesn’t make sense unless you have the sort of disposable wealth Lansdown does. There is no shame in this supposed consortium rocking up at the 11th hour and getting credit for rescuing us from the mire. But of course credit would have to go to DS too. If somebody else has been behind these plans then I’m not sure what DS’s endgame would have been, as they came in on a wave of optimism, bought a field and then lost out on the UWE before racking up a load of debt. But if it all ends up resulting in a stadium then whether they mis-underestimated running a football club (as Hamer claimed) or not the end will justify the means and people like myself will have to eat humble pie because we got the infrastructure we needed eventually. I had a look at OTIB earlier (ugh) and they seem to think there are some logistical issues with the site so maybe it isn’t cut and dried yet but as an infamous serial complainer on this site for once I am actually happy(!) that we just have some plan in the public domain that I can get behind which is all I and the other serial complainers have wanted.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 4, 2019 1:27:33 GMT
When I was talking to Directors back in the summer they said they were looking for a site with close rail links as after a recent survey results showed that 80percent of fans travelled to matches by car and this was far to high, the club are looking at laying on buses for fans traveling to the mem. So this site fits in with their strategy. I believe Councillors recommended the site to the club, so when it comes to getting planning permission it should be easier to achieve. Although traveling by car to the ground will not be easy so the club are hoping most people will use public transport. Another advantage of this site is that it is not in a heavy residential area so hopefully fewer objections by nimbies. Speaking as someone who normally gets to the Mem by car I think this policy of trying to increase use of public transport to get to the Mem is a great idea. If there could be a few park and ride schemes or something I'd almost certainly use them. The buses from Clutton/Radstock way are not very regular and are pretty slow but I'd have to get by by getting the bus to Temple Meads and walking across from there...Ark at I, getting way too ahead of myself!
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2019 1:32:45 GMT
No, this cant be right. All the special people keep saying that WAQ isn't doing anything behind the scenes. It doesn’t matter what they say or what wael says. Talk is cheap . Actions are the only thing that will get me interested and I think most Gasheads feel the same.
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2019 1:34:32 GMT
How are they financing it? The mind boggles on that one but fair enough. Can they really build it in two years?! That’s a hell of a schedule to aim for. It would take 18 months to build - minimum if they started the groundwork on Monday.
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Post by blueridge on Aug 4, 2019 4:30:47 GMT
Dave you are spot on and the finance is in place, they have people banging down the door to buy the Mem plot. All seems very positive - I wonder where does the Colony sit in the negotiations with potential buyers - particularly with the Colony 'sitting' in South Gloucestershire and not Bristol. Sounds to me as though the Fruit Market development could be part off a much bigger picture linked in with a partnership with BCC. Really can't see this being a stand alone development of a football stadium on such a prime site. Will the ALQ's remain the owners of the Club or is this being driven by a third party (parties)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 4:47:16 GMT
One small problem - Steve Lansdown
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 4, 2019 5:36:07 GMT
One small problem - Steve Lansdown How tall is he ? must be at least 5 foot ?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 4, 2019 6:17:54 GMT
What some are probably forgetting or don’t know is that BCC earmarked this site around 20 years ago for development as part of their strategic improvement plan for the expansion of central Bristol and they actually have a compulsory purchase order against the site. 20 years ago, the areas around Avon Street, and Temple Meads were a bit of a wasteland, now they're part of the expanded city centre. Istm once the feeder area gets redeveloped, too, this will be in the middle of an excellent area. Istm a stadium/venue like this is exactly the sort of development that will complement the other stuff going on round there. It would also be a venue not 100 yards from the long-planned Arena site, so BCC would win, too.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 4, 2019 6:36:11 GMT
Have i missed the bit where Wael has taken personal credit.
He is president and owner of the club, so anything said must be taken as such
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Post by giff on Aug 4, 2019 6:40:33 GMT
I own a unit in Albert rd and work knocking down buildings on Albert rd from the Feeder end starts later this year, already some business have moved out or are on the brink of moving out. my unit just misses the first phase , but was told by the developers that all the side near the river of Albert rd will be redeveloped with student accommodation, bars , hotels ect.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 4, 2019 6:50:34 GMT
Anyone know what the difference in land size is between the mem and fruit market. Google maps shows it to look like a very similar plot just a different shape. Would have thought it not big enough if wael wants more than just a stadium on site?
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Post by 84gas on Aug 4, 2019 6:53:00 GMT
All seems very convenient to me the timing of this good news on the back of another summer not spending a penny and having a very unbalanced and experimental squad. The last time Wael spoke to GT we were up for sale?!?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 7:02:53 GMT
All seems very convenient to me the timing of this good news on the back of another summer not spending a penny and having a very unbalanced and experimental squad. The last time Wael spoke to GT we were up for sale?!? He did not say we were up for sale! What he did say that there were always people showing interest in buying football clubs and we were no exception. They had spoken to interested parties but that was as far as it got and at the time of the March interview this year he had heard no more from them after their initial talks.
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Post by edotb on Aug 4, 2019 7:03:04 GMT
good way to get the casual rovers fans onboard on the first day of the season
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Post by gas2 on Aug 4, 2019 7:04:53 GMT
I think there are plans to move the park and ride down towards hicks gate on the bath road but there will be spaces in the present park and ride so park there short bus journey get off the bus at totterdown bridge five minutes walk to the fruit market ?
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Post by Congas on Aug 4, 2019 7:06:57 GMT
...and the family are into hotels and plan to build one there. If they pull this off we'll have a stadium in a central location that is part of an exciting mixed regeneration programme offering everything that a green field site lacks in the way of amenities. Parking is the least of their problems with the public transport links that are possible with TM just a short walk away. My knees are wobbling at the thought of this one. #InMyLifetime
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 4, 2019 7:10:14 GMT
Anyone know what the difference in land size is between the mem and fruit market. Google maps shows it to look like a very similar plot just a different shape. Would have thought it not big enough if wael wants more than just a stadium on site?
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 4, 2019 7:21:25 GMT
Anyone know what the difference in land size is between the mem and fruit market. Google maps shows it to look like a very similar plot just a different shape. Would have thought it not big enough if wael wants more than just a stadium on site? Thankyou. So with our current car park included it's a probably a 3rd bigger. Certainly Longer from that pic.
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Post by piratejames on Aug 4, 2019 7:32:01 GMT
People ask for wael to give some information regarding stadium and keep fans in the loop a bit more, he does that, and yet talk is about picking holes in it all rather than excitement. Really is no pleasing some people.
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Post by southencl on Aug 4, 2019 7:48:27 GMT
I worked at the Fruit Market back in the 1990s. The site is big enough for a stadium like The Mem but there will be very little room for carparking - just like The Mem!!! The railway line will restrict any further development. Please look elsewhere.
Furthermore, I understand that the Rovers have to pay off their legal fees this year for the two court battles with Sainsburys as they have only been paying the interest so far. Where will the money come from???
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