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Post by heartofgas on Oct 16, 2023 12:45:38 GMT
There would be a sense of security staying at the Mem, knowing that no one can sell the ground from under you. The lease deals and cuts of revenue makes us beholden to others. It would be fantastic to be in a ultra modern stadium but the downsides of that may be of detriment to Rovers. The only other option is if the Kuwaitis have £100M under their mattress that they're willing to blow.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 16, 2023 12:50:37 GMT
So frustrating when you see others improving or replacing their stadiums at all levels and yet even our new modest tent replacement as welcome as it is, seems fraught with problems.
Still after almost 70 years will always follow my team and will be at the Mem for as long as I can ,as crap as it is .
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 16, 2023 16:01:46 GMT
I've heard it's quite disorganized at Oxford and if you ever go on a match day, you will see them waiting to get in as they can't access the stadium until 12pm! That's just one of there many problems, according the the person I spoke to. I assume that's down to Kassim being awkward than the new owners not getting the club in order? Probably, but a lot of our problems are because of what past owners have done. Oxford are paying loads and get a rubbish deal. They desperately need to move and are currently in a lot worse position than us. Our stadium is rubbish, but at least we own it and at least we get there revenue streams and can use it when we want. |
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Post by Goose on Oct 16, 2023 16:10:33 GMT
Can we delete the *recent updates* until there are more updates. If there are more updates which then require an update, we can then update the update comment on the title to show everyone that the situation has updated
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 16, 2023 16:11:24 GMT
I assume that's down to Kassim being awkward than the new owners not getting the club in order? Probably, but a lot of our problems are because of what past owners have done. Oxford are paying loads and get a rubbish deal. They desperately need to move and are currently in a lot worse position than us. Our stadium is rubbish, but at least we own it and at least we get there revenue streams and can use it when we want. So where's all the extra revenue streams going, as financially we seem no better off, annual losses wise? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 16, 2023 16:32:14 GMT
Can we delete the *recent updates* until there are more updates. If there are more updates which then require an update, we can then update the update comment on the title to show everyone that the situation has updated Done. |
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Post by Goose on Oct 16, 2023 16:42:29 GMT
Can we delete the *recent updates* until there are more updates. If there are more updates which then require an update, we can then update the update comment on the title to show everyone that the situation has updated Done. LOL |
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Post by supergas on Oct 17, 2023 11:28:53 GMT
Probably, but a lot of our problems are because of what past owners have done. Oxford are paying loads and get a rubbish deal. They desperately need to move and are currently in a lot worse position than us. Our stadium is rubbish, but at least we own it and at least we get there revenue streams and can use it when we want. So where's all the extra revenue streams going, as financially we seem no better off, annual losses wise? What new revenue streams and what financial year are you referring to? Most publicly available numbers are over a season old now... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 13:26:01 GMT
So where's all the extra revenue streams going, as financially we seem no better off, annual losses wise? What new revenue streams and what financial year are you referring to? Most publicly available numbers are over a season old now... Just questioning Daniel's post where he claims that we have much better revenue streams than Oxford because we own the Mem, there's no real evidence that's the case looking at our respective league positions or annual losses. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Oct 17, 2023 13:39:14 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days.
If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it?
It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 17, 2023 13:51:12 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. Only QPR, Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol Rovers and Grimsby Town out of the 92 haven't built a new permanent stand or stadium in the last 30 years. Board after board after board have bullshitted the supporters with drawings, designs, campaigns, videos and appointing stadium advisors. How can 95% of the Football League something that is apparently not achievable for us? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 13:56:07 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. That's just the same for Oxford at present and, fairly recently, Wimbledon and Brentford, further back in time Swansea, Reading & Brighton etc managed it, regardless if Rovers can't afford it then why keep pretending they can? What's the point in having mega rich foreign owners if they can't deliver a new stadium? |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 17, 2023 14:53:37 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. That's just the same for Oxford at present and, fairly recently, Wimbledon and Brentford, further back in time Swansea, Reading & Brighton etc managed it, regardless if Rovers can't afford it then why keep pretending they can? What's the point in having mega rich foreign owners if they can't deliver a new stadium? Do they need to,I would be happy with a significantly up graded Mem,including toilets, hospitality etc,a capacity in-between 15-20k if that's doable surely at a fraction of the cost of a new stadium,then great |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 17, 2023 14:54:48 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. Only QPR, Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol Rovers and Grimsby Town out of the 92 haven't built a new permanent stand or stadium in the last 30 years. Board after board after board have bullshitted the supporters with drawings, designs, campaigns, videos and appointing stadium advisors. How can 95% of the Football League something that is apparently not achievable for us? Because previous Boards have been sh**e!! |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 17, 2023 14:58:18 GMT
Only QPR, Sheffield Wednesday, Bristol Rovers and Grimsby Town out of the 92 haven't built a new permanent stand or stadium in the last 30 years. Board after board after board have bullshitted the supporters with drawings, designs, campaigns, videos and appointing stadium advisors. How can 95% of the Football League something that is apparently not achievable for us? Because previous Boards have been sh**e!! Wael only owned the club for 7 and a half years I suppose... |
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 17, 2023 14:58:43 GMT
There is a simple mathematical equation going all the way back to Eastville days. If a club has zero pounds to build a stadium costing circa 80 million, who the hell is going to fund it? It’s that simple really. Too many people expecting others to make up for Rovers failings. Twas ever so. That's just the same for Oxford at present and, fairly recently, Wimbledon and Brentford, further back in time Swansea, Reading & Brighton etc managed it, regardless if Rovers can't afford it then why keep pretending they can? What's the point in having mega rich foreign owners if they can't deliver a new stadium? We have not got mega rich owners and will never be able to afford a new stadium. |
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Post by olskooltoteender on Oct 17, 2023 15:10:43 GMT
Honestly, I don’t believe there is any real appetite for a new stadium anymore and even less so now the new ownership has taken over a majority. The Kuwaitis have been deathly quiet on all fronts, the club itself has been even less communicative than it has been previously, there seems to be no movement at council/conygar level and there are more rumours around a set of piecemeal stands at the Mem than anything else. I’d just love us to have an open and structured plan for the club that’s communicated from our new owners and is achievable for our means. Not some pipedream £110m or so building project which is dependant on other people. Well I’m still a bit uneasy about the new owners. In comparison, Wael seems like a complete chatterbox. I always felt that Wael actually had the best interests of the club at heart, was always up for engaging with the fans, and is generally.a likeable chap and, in my opinion, a pretty good owner. The new people? Not got a f*cking clue who they are, what they want or what their real intentions are for our club. Wouldn’t know them from Adam if I walked past them in the street. OK, so Wael is still President or whatever, but how much say does he actually have now in view of the fact that they apparently have a controlling interest? |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 17, 2023 15:11:16 GMT
Because previous Boards have been sh**e!! Wael only owned the club for 7 and a half years I suppose... Yep and he's done and built more in that time..... |
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 17, 2023 15:13:59 GMT
Wael only owned the club for 7 and a half years I suppose... Yep and he's done and built more in that time.....  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2023 15:32:59 GMT
Honestly, I don’t believe there is any real appetite for a new stadium anymore and even less so now the new ownership has taken over a majority. The Kuwaitis have been deathly quiet on all fronts, the club itself has been even less communicative than it has been previously, there seems to be no movement at council/conygar level and there are more rumours around a set of piecemeal stands at the Mem than anything else. I’d just love us to have an open and structured plan for the club that’s communicated from our new owners and is achievable for our means. Not some pipedream £110m or so building project which is dependant on other people. Well I’m still a bit uneasy about the new owners. In comparison, Wael seems like a complete chatterbox. I always felt that Wael actually had the best interests of the club at heart, was always up for engaging with the fans, and is generally.a likeable chap and, in my opinion, a pretty good owner. The new people? Not got a f*cking clue who they are, what they want or what their real intentions are for our club. Wouldn’t know them from Adam if I walked past them in the street. OK, so Wael is still President or whatever, but how much say does he actually have now in view of the fact that they apparently have a controlling interest? I could never work out if Wael was a nice guy but a bit naive, or a clever guy who led us down the garden path with false promises. I can't really understand why he's left with only a minority interest in the club as it seems it'll still cost him £m's each season but now has no real say in any big decisions. Unless that's the best offer he could get. |
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