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Post by supergas on Aug 14, 2019 3:57:51 GMT
I know they are a prem side, but I dont see the draw of them.They are normally just like Bournemouth,Huddersfield,Hull etc - L1 level Clubs. That being said,they will bring 1500 and given there in the prem we should pull a gate of between 7k- 9k.If Im off I will work I will go.👍 I for one would love to "not be a draw" to a league one crowd mostly housed in tents as I travel back to my purpose built Category One status training centre to prepare to play the current Champions in the Premier League on the weekend....
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Post by Icegas on Aug 14, 2019 4:51:05 GMT
They were always a L1 club until 2011 - from the early 1980's. They are pretty much the same sized club as us, but got a new ground and had good management to the prem.. They dont get me buzzed to play them... I remember playing them in 2007/8 at home when they were getting crowds of only 6k. I think you may be a tad exaggerative to say they are the same sized club as us, but I see what you're saying. Thing is yes they were getting low crowds back then but they were playing at the Withdean which was probably one of the worst grounds for football anyone has ever had in this country. Atmosphere shocking, far from the pitch, etc, and it didn't hold much more than that anyway. If they had the Amex in L1 I think they'd be getting crowds of 15-18k or so, similar to City at the original Ashton Gate. Let's not forget that Brighton had a few years in the top flight back in the early 80s so they have more history than us as well. I'm not saying we don't have similar potential but I'd say in a straight up "who's got the biggest club and biggest potential fanbase" Brighton would beat us in my opinion. City were never getting 15k - 18k weekly in L1...This stupid myth that they have been getting the crowds they get now for years wateres me off!!! In L1 they were getting an Avg 9k- 12k during a normal season,maybe higher for big games against us,Swindon, Cardiff etc.. Even before the Ashton rebuild they were never selling out at championship level. Brighton had more history than us just,but there crowds have come because of the Amex and Championship and Premiership football. Withdean was shocking,maybe worse than the Mem.But Brighton crowds were in line with ours,in fact worse than ours before there new ground.Brighton are a perfect example of why we need a new ground ASAP.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 14, 2019 5:29:31 GMT
I think you may be a tad exaggerative to say they are the same sized club as us, but I see what you're saying. Thing is yes they were getting low crowds back then but they were playing at the Withdean which was probably one of the worst grounds for football anyone has ever had in this country. Atmosphere shocking, far from the pitch, etc, and it didn't hold much more than that anyway. If they had the Amex in L1 I think they'd be getting crowds of 15-18k or so, similar to City at the original Ashton Gate. Let's not forget that Brighton had a few years in the top flight back in the early 80s so they have more history than us as well. I'm not saying we don't have similar potential but I'd say in a straight up "who's got the biggest club and biggest potential fanbase" Brighton would beat us in my opinion. City were never getting 15k - 18k weekly in L1... This stupid myth that they have been getting the crowds they get now for years wateres me off!!! In L1 they were getting an Avg 9k- 12k during a normal season,maybe higher for big games against us,Swindon, Cardiff etc.. Even before the Ashton rebuild they were never selling out at championship level. Brighton had more history than us just,but there crowds have come because of the Amex and Championship and Premiership football. Withdean was shocking,maybe worse than the Mem.But Brighton crowds were in line with ours,in fact worse than ours before there new ground.Brighton are a perfect example of why we need a new ground ASAP. Wow bit of an over-reaction perhaps? You're right their attendances most recently in L1 were around 12k on average, my apologies. Nevertheless I still believe Brighton to be a bigger club than us. They don't really have to share their fanbase whereas I'd say more than half of Bristol are either glory hunting PL fans or City fans as let's face it they've been more successful than us for decades now and they have far better facilities. I do agree though that Brighton's 3-fold/4-fold increase in attendances and success in recent years is an example of the potential we as a club also have, if given the same tools that Brighton have. Another good example is when Swansea moved from the Vetch to the Liberty, but the figures may be skewed by the fact they got promoted from L2 in their last season at the Vetch, and then did very well in L1 in their first season at the Liberty, but still their average attendance increased from about 8.5k at the Vetch to 13.7k at the Liberty in L1. I think if we moved to a new stadium and flirted with the playoffs in L1 in our first season, our attendances would probably be around the 14-15k mark on average. Similarly if we were in the Champ I think we'd get 15-18k, potentially selling out in really big fixtures.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2019 6:06:18 GMT
I know they are a prem side, but I dont see the draw of them.They are normally just like Bournemouth,Huddersfield,Hull etc - L1 level Clubs. That being said,they will bring 1500 and given there in the prem we should pull a gate of between 7k- 9k.If Im off I will work I will go.👍 Surely the draw is that they are not the typical Wycombe or Shrewsbury sides we have to face every Saturday, or the likes of Crawley and Barnsley we usually get at home in the cups?
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Post by Icegas on Aug 14, 2019 9:56:00 GMT
City were never getting 15k - 18k weekly in L1... This stupid myth that they have been getting the crowds they get now for years wateres me off!!! In L1 they were getting an Avg 9k- 12k during a normal season,maybe higher for big games against us,Swindon, Cardiff etc.. Even before the Ashton rebuild they were never selling out at championship level. Brighton had more history than us just,but there crowds have come because of the Amex and Championship and Premiership football. Withdean was shocking,maybe worse than the Mem.But Brighton crowds were in line with ours,in fact worse than ours before there new ground.Brighton are a perfect example of why we need a new ground ASAP. Wow bit of an over-reaction perhaps? You're right their attendances most recently in L1 were around 12k on average, my apologies. Nevertheless I still believe Brighton to be a bigger club than us. They don't really have to share their fanbase whereas I'd say more than half of Bristol are either glory hunting PL fans or City fans as let's face it they've been more successful than us for decades now and they have far better facilities. I do agree though that Brighton's 3-fold/4-fold increase in attendances and success in recent years is an example of the potential we as a club also have, if given the same tools that Brighton have. Another good example is when Swansea moved from the Vetch to the Liberty, but the figures may be skewed by the fact they got promoted from L2 in their last season at the Vetch, and then did very well in L1 in their first season at the Liberty, but still their average attendance increased from about 8.5k at the Vetch to 13.7k at the Liberty in L1. I think if we moved to a new stadium and flirted with the playoffs in L1 in our first season, our attendances would probably be around the 14-15k mark on average. Similarly if we were in the Champ I think we'd get 15-18k, potentially selling out in really big fixtures. I agree with all of that. In regards to City when they were last in L1 4 years ago..?? The Ashton gate rebuild was under way so it was capped at 12k,which they were selling out. What I mean was for years after they dropped from the old Top tier to the bottom level, then spent years in L1 during the 90s and early 2000s there AVG gates were between 9k and 12k apart from the big games.The gates they get now are due to the level they are playing at,the new ground effect (which it still is) and outstanding investment - all of which we have never had! The gates they are getting now are the sort of gates either Bristol side should get at that level in a wonderful new stadium.
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Post by darkbluegas on Aug 14, 2019 10:14:52 GMT
Its a decent draw when you look at the opponents available in the southern half. The only big team we could have got was West Ham. Its been a few years since weve played them and im sure theyll field a weakened side so a little chance we may just sneak it, in front of a decent crowd.
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Post by c4h10 on Aug 14, 2019 11:07:44 GMT
TownsWomens Guild? Better practice singing "Jerusalem" then.
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Post by titchthephot on Aug 14, 2019 11:15:27 GMT
I reckon we will do em 8 - 2 🙂🙂 That was my first ever away game. A win like that would be nice!
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Post by hardingegas on Aug 14, 2019 11:40:11 GMT
Brighton always had great potential to attract good crowds even in their old Goldstone Ground - I remember a huge crowd back in the 70's which may have been a record for a Third Division game (before the two Sheffield's met up at the same level). Then they had a few years in the old First Division and reached the FA Cup Final in the 80's. So definitely a bigger club than us.
I'm looking forward to the game - what a change to be taking the cups seriously!
We might even recreate the days of the 70's great League Cup runs!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 12:13:30 GMT
They’ve been either a championship or Premier league side for quite a few years , get big crowds , ok it’s not Man Utd , Chelsea or Liverpool at home but I think it’s a decent home draw v a Premier league side that we could beat. They were always a L1 club until 2011 - from the early 1980's. They are pretty much the same sized club as us, but got a new ground and had good management to the prem.. They dont get me buzzed to play them... I remember playing them in 2007/8 at home when they were getting crowds of only 6k. Only because they couldn't fit any more into The Withdean.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 14, 2019 12:17:22 GMT
Brighton are a much bigger club than us, and have been since they moved to the Amex and left L1 for the championship, then the premier league. In the intervening years we have been to the conference and back whilst they were playing Liverpool, Man U et al week in week out.
What they were prior to that is irrelevant now. Their ownership, infrastructure and facilites and league position currently are far superior to us in every area.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 14, 2019 12:24:29 GMT
They were always a L1 club until 2011 - from the early 1980's. They are pretty much the same sized club as us, but got a new ground and had good management to the prem.. They dont get me buzzed to play them... I remember playing them in 2007/8 at home when they were getting crowds of only 6k. Only because they couldn't fit any more into The Withdean. Thats not correct, there were times that they were getting 5k in a ground that held over 6,000.Most of the time it was full tho.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Aug 14, 2019 17:13:41 GMT
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Aug 14, 2019 19:53:51 GMT
Brighton always had great potential to attract good crowds even in their old Goldstone Ground - I remember a huge crowd back in the 70's which may have been a record for a Third Division game (before the two Sheffield's met up at the same level). Then they had a few years in the old First Division and reached the FA Cup Final in the 80's. So definitely a bigger club than us. I'm looking forward to the game - what a change to be taking the cups seriously! We might even recreate the days of the 70's great League Cup runs! We've got to at least the 2nd Round of the League Cup the last three seasons and got to the semi final of the trophy. Its only the FA Cup we've been rubbish in
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Post by yattongas on Aug 14, 2019 21:31:37 GMT
Hopefully our *fans don’t resort to singing those stereotypical songs about Brighton and their fans...... cringeworthy and embarrassing
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 14, 2019 21:37:23 GMT
Hopefully our *fans don’t resort to singing those stereotypical songs about Brighton and their fans...... cringeworthy and embarrassing You know they will. The variety has dwindled so badly the last few years we are now down to a few rounds of ‘come on Rovers’, ‘Irene’ and that awful IRA number. They will go straight to the morons hymn sheet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 22:03:58 GMT
Brighton always had great potential to attract good crowds even in their old Goldstone Ground - I remember a huge crowd back in the 70's which may have been a record for a Third Division game (before the two Sheffield's met up at the same level). Then they had a few years in the old First Division and reached the FA Cup Final in the 80's. So definitely a bigger club than us. I'm looking forward to the game - what a change to be taking the cups seriously! We might even recreate the days of the 70's great League Cup runs! We've got to at least the 2nd Round of the League Cup the last three seasons and got to the semi final of the trophy. Its only the FA Cup we've been rubbish in Semi-final? Oh sorry you mean the other cup thing.
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Post by lpgas on Aug 15, 2019 10:48:31 GMT
Truth is there's only one team in Brighton, no other footy teams, and no rugger teams. Same as most of the larger clubs
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 15, 2019 16:27:25 GMT
I reckon we will do em 8 - 2 🙂🙂 4 for JCH and 3 for Smith, our new Smash and Grab! UTG!
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Post by eastville1966 on Aug 15, 2019 20:45:29 GMT
I reckon we will do em 8 - 2 🙂🙂 4 for JCH and 3 for Smith, our new Smash and Grab! UTG! And one for Tom Nichols. The thinking man’s Gordon ‘Flash’ Fearnley.
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