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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 11:33:41 GMT
I mean, on the face of it, £0. Why would I pay out of my pocket for something that I'd then be charged £400+ every year to utilise regularly?
Good on the OP for willingly donating £200/300 in this hypothetical situation but I'd prefer to the let the business owners and ones putting the money in to fund it rather than me. Sorry to be negative!
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Post by Gassy on Sept 3, 2019 11:36:11 GMT
I mean, on the face of it, £0. Why would I pay out of my pocket for something that I'd then be charged £400+ every year to utilise regularly? Good on the OP for willingly donating £200/300 in this hypothetical situation but I'd prefer to the let the business owners and ones putting the money in to fund it rather than me. Sorry to be negative! But what if you owned equity in the stadium, any sale of the football club you'd then receive money back?
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Post by Icegas on Sept 3, 2019 11:39:54 GMT
I just don’t get this thread? The Al Quidi’s have told us that finance is not a problem, what’s wrong with everyone? Ok calm down! Jeez..😨 I said at the open of the thread that this was "pie in the sky" and it came to me while sat on the bog ffs..😂 I never thought this could ever to be a serious option for our club! I was just asking a question. Playing devil's advocate since you made this serious,based on what grounds should be believe that the board has the finance in place for a new stadium other than blind faith?
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 11:41:38 GMT
I mean, on the face of it, £0. Why would I pay out of my pocket for something that I'd then be charged £400+ every year to utilise regularly? Good on the OP for willingly donating £200/300 in this hypothetical situation but I'd prefer to the let the business owners and ones putting the money in to fund it rather than me. Sorry to be negative! But what if you owned equity in the stadium, any sale of the football club you'd then receive money back? Then yeah, sure. If it's a legitimate investment and not just a one-off donation to help in essence a massive company make a massive purchase then that changes things. I just think - and I reiterate I realise the OP is creating this scenario hypothetically - that asking everyday match-goers to donate £200 or whatever to a stadium is, for some, a large portion of their disposable income. And for something that wouldn't come to fruition for years. Especially when you consider the uproar caused by match food prices rising or a hoodie in the club shop being "way too expensive" for some at £60.
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Post by Marshy on Sept 3, 2019 11:45:05 GMT
I just don’t get this thread? The Al Quidi’s have told us that finance is not a problem, what’s wrong with everyone? Ok calm down! Jeez..😨 I said at the open of the thread that this was "pie in the sky" and it came to me while sat on the bog ffs..😂 I never thought this could ever to be a serious option for our club! I was just asking a question. Playing devil's advocate since you made this serious,based on what grounds should be believe that the board has the finance in place for a new stadium other than blind faith? Oh dear, I was taking the water obviously lol!
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Post by Gassy on Sept 3, 2019 11:46:44 GMT
But what if you owned equity in the stadium, any sale of the football club you'd then receive money back? Then yeah, sure. If it's a legitimate investment and not just a one-off donation to help in essence a massive company make a massive purchase then that changes things. I just think - and I reiterate I realise the OP is creating this scenario hypothetically - that asking everyday match-goers to donate £200 or whatever to a stadium is, for some, a large portion of their disposable income. And for something that wouldn't come to fruition for years. Especially when you consider the uproar caused by match food prices rising or a hoodie in the club shop being "way too expensive" for some at £60. Understandable, but I'm not sure they're asking fans to donate £200 a month, just saying what he'd be willing to invest. The only time I'd give the club money towards the stadium would be under 2 circumstances: 1. I own a % of it. 2. The club is owned/run by fans
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 12:00:07 GMT
I can exclusively reveal that chewbacca is, in fact, Diane Abbott. Lucky I don't work in finance.
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Do you do mortgages?
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 3, 2019 12:02:15 GMT
Lucky I don't work in finance.
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Do you do mortgages? You wish.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 12:02:50 GMT
If I won 100 million on the lottery I would imagine donating 30 million towards a stadium would be do-able. 1000s of fans pledging money piecemeal would raise far too many questions than it answers unfortunately.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 3, 2019 12:02:58 GMT
Then yeah, sure. If it's a legitimate investment and not just a one-off donation to help in essence a massive company make a massive purchase then that changes things. I just think - and I reiterate I realise the OP is creating this scenario hypothetically - that asking everyday match-goers to donate £200 or whatever to a stadium is, for some, a large portion of their disposable income. And for something that wouldn't come to fruition for years. Especially when you consider the uproar caused by match food prices rising or a hoodie in the club shop being "way too expensive" for some at £60. Understandable, but I'm not sure they're asking fans to donate £200 a month, just saying what he'd be willing to invest. The only time I'd give the club money towards the stadium would be under 2 circumstances: 1. I own a % of it. 2. The club is owned/run by fans Which will never happen because we have the most passive supporters in world football.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 12:04:25 GMT
Then yeah, sure. If it's a legitimate investment and not just a one-off donation to help in essence a massive company make a massive purchase then that changes things. I just think - and I reiterate I realise the OP is creating this scenario hypothetically - that asking everyday match-goers to donate £200 or whatever to a stadium is, for some, a large portion of their disposable income. And for something that wouldn't come to fruition for years. Especially when you consider the uproar caused by match food prices rising or a hoodie in the club shop being "way too expensive" for some at £60. Understandable, but I'm not sure they're asking fans to donate £200 a month, just saying what he'd be willing to invest. The only time I'd give the club money towards the stadium would be under 2 circumstances: 1. I own a % of it. 2. The club is owned/run by fans Yeah I agree with those circumstances. Take your point about asking what you'd be willing to invest, however me donating a fiver to a £40m+ construction is largely pointless. Likewise, if 10,000 of us donate a fiver then that's only £50,000. Whereas, £200 each is £2m and you're starting to make a dent. All hypothetical anyway, but I wouldn't willingly donate anything in almost all scenarios!
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Post by Marshy on Sept 3, 2019 12:09:05 GMT
I just don’t get this thread? The Al Quidi’s have told us that finance is not a problem, what’s wrong with everyone? Ok calm down! Jeez..😨 I said at the open of the thread that this was "pie in the sky" and it came to me while sat on the bog ffs..😂 I never thought this could ever to be a serious option for our club! I was just asking a question. Playing devil's advocate since you made this serious,based on what grounds should be believe that the board has the finance in place for a new stadium other than blind faith? For what it’s worth budd, I actually think this is a very interesting thread. You seem to be bringing out the Dr Evil in people.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 3, 2019 12:16:42 GMT
Understandable, but I'm not sure they're asking fans to donate £200 a month, just saying what he'd be willing to invest. The only time I'd give the club money towards the stadium would be under 2 circumstances: 1. I own a % of it. 2. The club is owned/run by fans Which will never happen because we have the most passive supporters in world football. Can you imagine it? JCH on a 20 year deal, 26 managers per season, a ban on all instruments in the stadium, a ban on the term "dusting ourselves down", budget increases on transfer deadline day but slashed the next day, tommym9 head of media, pirate head of scouting & DC an honorary life legend - but only if he admits he made his mistakes, screwed us over at the end & strictly follows the dusting ourselves down ban
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Post by aghast on Sept 3, 2019 12:19:25 GMT
We'd only need 10,000 to donate £500 a piece to make £50,000,000. Doing a bit of maths, that's £20.83 a month over 2 years per person. LPGas started a thread about getting a refund for one match off his Season Ticket. Literally no chance. Our gates over past few years have AVG between 8k-9k (down this season so far tho.) I know of those fans many couldnt pay anything, but at a guess I would say there are between 20- 25k Gasheads in the world.What I mean people that if asked who they support they would say Rovers.They may not be able to go to games all the time due to family,work, health,location etc.. Just asking if this was ever asked how much if you could,would you be willing to pay. I think your estimate of the number of Rovers fans is way too low. If we took 40k to Wembley in the past, then there must be at least 50k out there. Realistically, though, no more than 20% of supporters would donate (just guessing), and at a maximum of £20 a month or say £250 per annum. So optimistically we might get 10k fans donating £500 for two years. A grand total of £5m. Not bad, but a long way short of half.
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Post by bornagain04 on Sept 3, 2019 12:30:12 GMT
If I won the £100 million on the lottery tonight then I’ll chip in £50 million but would expect a free season ticket for life, and a free pasty for every home 🤞
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Post by Marshy on Sept 3, 2019 12:32:11 GMT
If I won the £100 million on the lottery tonight then I’ll chip in £50 million but would expect a free season ticket for life, and a free pasty for every home 🤞 Greedy bastard! People always want something for nothing don’t they? 👀
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Post by bornagain04 on Sept 3, 2019 12:34:44 GMT
If I won the £100 million on the lottery tonight then I’ll chip in £50 million but would expect a free season ticket for life, and a free pasty for every home 🤞 Greedy bastard! People always want something for nothing don’t they? 👀 I was going to but everyone on here a pint as well, but you’re not getting one now 😂
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 3, 2019 12:58:10 GMT
Yeah I agree with those circumstances. Take your point about asking what you'd be willing to invest, however me donating a fiver to a £40m+ construction is largely pointless. Likewise, if 10,000 of us donate a fiver then that's only £50,000. Whereas, £200 each is £2m and you're starting to make a dent. All hypothetical anyway, but I wouldn't willingly donate anything in almost all scenarios! £2m is hardly a dent if the project is going to cost £80m+ inc the land? Maybe not, genuinely depends on price of the overall project. Either way, I agree. Small dent.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 3, 2019 12:59:06 GMT
If I won the £100 million on the lottery tonight then I’ll chip in £50 million but would expect a free season ticket for life, and a free pasty for every home 🤞 You will be emailed a code, to enter into the website, to fill out account details, to email you a link, to open a tab, to follow instructions, to accept all cookies, to answer a questionnaire, to send you a link, that will be in your junk, to open a pdf that you'll need to print off for a free pasty.
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Post by bornagain04 on Sept 3, 2019 13:04:47 GMT
With the remaining £50 million I will employ someone to do that for me 😉
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