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Post by pirate on Nov 12, 2019 1:20:02 GMT
4 promotions 2 lucky at that and one relagation plus he’s lost the plot with his head up his own ass.Pot Black comes to mind I preferred Big Break.
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Post by axegas on Nov 12, 2019 1:31:06 GMT
I can see Walsall fans point of view though, yes DC has had success at his former clubs but that counts for nothing when his side underperforming and consistently losing games at a club looking to get back to league one. If Rovers were in that situation, I know plenty of Gasheads would be calling for the sack too. With us he had the luxury of leading a team in the conference that had one of the largest budgets in the league and were a big fish in a small pond, which allowed him to find the right players, pick up some momentum and approach L2 again with a good squad. He doesn’t have that as much at Walsall so it will be a real test of his managerial ability to turn this slump around and get them to the right end of the table. I for one hope he manages to do that, his tenure at the gas will always be looked upon fondly, achieving back to back promotions is completely unprecedented in the history of the club and I’ve got the greatest respect towards him for doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 9:20:35 GMT
I can see Walsall fans point of view though, yes DC has had success at his former clubs but that counts for nothing when his side underperforming and consistently losing games at a club looking to get back to league one. If Rovers were in that situation, I know plenty of Gasheads would be calling for the sack too. With us he had the luxury of leading a team in the conference that had one of the largest budgets in the league and were a big fish in a small pond, which allowed him to find the right players, pick up some momentum and approach L2 again with a good squad. He doesn’t have that as much at Walsall so it will be a real test of his managerial ability to turn this slump around and get them to the right end of the table. I for one hope he manages to do that, his tenure at the gas will always be looked upon fondly, achieving back to back promotions is completely unprecedented in the history of the club and I’ve got the greatest respect towards him for doing so. Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit.
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Post by blueridge on Nov 12, 2019 9:30:37 GMT
I can see Walsall fans point of view though, yes DC has had success at his former clubs but that counts for nothing when his side underperforming and consistently losing games at a club looking to get back to league one. If Rovers were in that situation, I know plenty of Gasheads would be calling for the sack too. With us he had the luxury of leading a team in the conference that had one of the largest budgets in the league and were a big fish in a small pond, which allowed him to find the right players, pick up some momentum and approach L2 again with a good squad. He doesn’t have that as much at Walsall so it will be a real test of his managerial ability to turn this slump around and get them to the right end of the table. I for one hope he manages to do that, his tenure at the gas will always be looked upon fondly, achieving back to back promotions is completely unprecedented in the history of the club and I’ve got the greatest respect towards him for doing so. Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. You're always looking for a negative even from a positive post - what the f**ks up with you?
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 12, 2019 10:09:07 GMT
Axegas post very balanced and very positive. The post concludes "I've got the greatest respect of him". I share those views about DC but am saddened that it went really bad for him iat Rovers in the end. In reality it does for most managers.
It seems that some people take a perverse delight in his obvious difficulties at Walsall.
UTG
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Post by oldgas on Nov 12, 2019 10:41:46 GMT
I can see Walsall fans point of view though, yes DC has had success at his former clubs but that counts for nothing when his side underperforming and consistently losing games at a club looking to get back to league one. If Rovers were in that situation, I know plenty of Gasheads would be calling for the sack too. With us he had the luxury of leading a team in the conference that had one of the largest budgets in the league and were a big fish in a small pond, which allowed him to find the right players, pick up some momentum and approach L2 again with a good squad. He doesn’t have that as much at Walsall so it will be a real test of his managerial ability to turn this slump around and get them to the right end of the table. I for one hope he manages to do that, his tenure at the gas will always be looked upon fondly, achieving back to back promotions is completely unprecedented in the history of the club and I’ve got the greatest respect towards him for doing so. Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. Axe hasn't put down his Conference season at all. DC knew exactly what was needed to gain promotion, having managed in non-league prior to us. He didn't make the mistake of signing technically gifted players like other managers who found themselves in the Conference, he signed battlers who could play other sides at their style and level. Plus he got some outrageous luck at Wembley versus 'Grimsbury'. I was there and I had my head in my hands when Puddy handled outside his area. I was amazed when the ref bottled it and only gave him a yellow. That was a sending -off all day long, and that would have been the game gone with 80+ minutes and 10 men, because we were outplayed that day. Did I celebrate? Of course I did, and madly. I was a little perturbed at the way DC turned and ran to the Rovers end when Lee's pen went in. He split the players celebration and it seemed like he was making it all about him when that should have been the players moment. You may say I am being unkind, but he's got form regarding his ego, his statements about 'Me fans' etc. I am not saying that I was anything other than grateful fot the 2 promotions and will always respect DC for them. However, he has been Sussed, found out and I'm afraid he is a one trick pony and only capable in the Conference divisions, and barely competent in League 2 if his present performance is anything to go by. he
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 11:24:09 GMT
I can see Walsall fans point of view though, yes DC has had success at his former clubs but that counts for nothing when his side underperforming and consistently losing games at a club looking to get back to league one. If Rovers were in that situation, I know plenty of Gasheads would be calling for the sack too. With us he had the luxury of leading a team in the conference that had one of the largest budgets in the league and were a big fish in a small pond, which allowed him to find the right players, pick up some momentum and approach L2 again with a good squad. He doesn’t have that as much at Walsall so it will be a real test of his managerial ability to turn this slump around and get them to the right end of the table. I for one hope he manages to do that, his tenure at the gas will always be looked upon fondly, achieving back to back promotions is completely unprecedented in the history of the club and I’ve got the greatest respect towards him for doing so. Some fair points but I think it’s odd that fans are choosing now to mitigate against what he achieved in the conference. It’s correct of course, but I just don’t recall many saying it at the time and I reckon if someone like myself who has a reputation for being negative had said that at the time I would have received dogs abuse! Let’s not forget how long Luton were down there and their budget must have been huge so it’s really not as easy “here’s a big budget” -> get promoted -> profit
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Nov 12, 2019 11:45:42 GMT
Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. Axe hasn't put down his Conference season at all. DC knew exactly what was needed to gain promotion, having managed in non-league prior to us. He didn't make the mistake of signing technically gifted players like other managers who found themselves in the Conference, he signed battlers who could play other sides at their style and level. Plus he got some outrageous luck at Wembley versus 'Grimsbury'. I was there and I had my head in my hands when Puddy handled outside his area. I was amazed when the ref bottled it and only gave him a yellow. That was a sending -off all day long, and that would have been the game gone with 80+ minutes and 10 men, because we were outplayed that day. Did I celebrate? Of course I did, and madly. I was a little perturbed at the way DC turned and ran to the Rovers end when Lee's pen went in. He split the players celebration and it seemed like he was making it all about him when that should have been the players moment. You may say I am being unkind, but he's got form regarding his ego, his statements about 'Me fans' etc. I am not saying that I was anything other than grateful fot the 2 promotions and will always respect DC for them. However, he has been Sussed, found out and I'm afraid he is a one trick pony and only capable in the Conference divisions, and barely competent in League 2 if his present performance is anything to go by. he Jesus. What a disgustingly disrespectful post that is. Ridiculous post clearly made by someone who seems to have a very strange axe to grind with a man who has had nothing to do with our football club for 12 months! Grow up and move on.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 12, 2019 12:02:39 GMT
Olldgas he ran to us fans to celebrate because he had done what he pledged to do , he celebrated with us what on earth is perturbing about that It seems like any excuse to find some sort of angle to his obvious delight in us getting promotion , what I find perturbing is this constant negativity regards DC Considering he is no longer our manager . Now that I find . PERTURBING utg
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 12:31:25 GMT
Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. Axe hasn't put down his Conference season at all. DC knew exactly what was needed to gain promotion, having managed in non-league prior to us. He didn't make the mistake of signing technically gifted players like other managers who found themselves in the Conference, he signed battlers who could play other sides at their style and level. Plus he got some outrageous luck at Wembley versus 'Grimsbury'. I was there and I had my head in my hands when Puddy handled outside his area. I was amazed when the ref bottled it and only gave him a yellow. That was a sending -off all day long, and that would have been the game gone with 80+ minutes and 10 men, because we were outplayed that day. Did I celebrate? Of course I did, and madly. I was a little perturbed at the way DC turned and ran to the Rovers end when Lee's pen went in. He split the players celebration and it seemed like he was making it all about him when that should have been the players moment. You may say I am being unkind, but he's got form regarding his ego, his statements about 'Me fans' etc. I am not saying that I was anything other than grateful fot the 2 promotions and will always respect DC for them. However, he has been Sussed, found out and I'm afraid he is a one trick pony and only capable in the Conference divisions, and barely competent in League 2 if his present performance is anything to go by. he But your forgetting the 10th and 13th place finishes in league 1? They did actually happen. I am really glad that was i just relieved we won at wembley without the burden of analysing the dc run onto the pitch as something dark and suspicious. There was me thinking he was just overjoyed that we made it back into the league,how naive of me.
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Post by clockendgas on Nov 12, 2019 13:29:06 GMT
Just out of interest don't think anyone's mentioned a possible DC versus matty Taylor game if walsall win their replay
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:33:39 GMT
Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. You're always looking for a negative even from a positive post - what the f**ks up with you? Nothing,i am fine thanks. I will always argue against the view that promotion from the conference was a given or that it was lucky.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:37:35 GMT
Dc basically called out the owners as charlatans,in fact he overdid without a doubt.
History will at some point prove him right or wrong regarding the owners,we will just have to see but we can relax now knowing that the current manager will always tow the company line no matter what he thinks of his budget and the facilities available to his players.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 12, 2019 13:48:45 GMT
I personally applaud DC for speaking out re the owners .. too many people tow the party line In all walks of life ps are the Al quadi’s still here? !!!! Utg
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Post by baggins on Nov 12, 2019 13:51:26 GMT
I personally applaud DC for speaking out re the owners .. too many people tow the party line In all walks of life ps are the Al quadi’s still here? !!!! Utg Yes, they are, and still bankrolling the club. Interested to hear about how you not towing the party line with your employers went.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 13:54:27 GMT
I personally applaud DC for speaking out re the owners .. too many people tow the party line In all walks of life ps are the Al quadi’s still here? !!!! Utg Yes, they are, and still bankrolling the club. Interested to hear about how you not towing the party line with your employers went. So they've spent some of their personal wealth on us? Must of missed that one.
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Post by baggins on Nov 12, 2019 14:00:42 GMT
Yes, they are, and still bankrolling the club. Interested to hear about how you not towing the party line with your employers went. So they've spent some of their personal wealth on us? Must of missed that one. You did.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 12, 2019 14:04:33 GMT
I’m a bit of a rebel baggins Always have been . Always will be . VI’ve la Revolution 😀😄😅 consequence of my French DNA probably 👍🤔😇utg
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 12, 2019 14:07:20 GMT
Dc basically called out the owners as charlatans,in fact he overdid without a doubt. History will at some point prove him right or wrong regarding the owners,we will just have to see but we can relax now knowing that the current manager will always tow the company line no matter what he thinks of his budget and the facilities available to his players. Spot on butterfly utg
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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 12, 2019 14:24:43 GMT
Ok so you have put down his conference success even though almost nobody thought we were coming back up into the league at the first attempt. But how do you explain his league 2 promotion and 2 decent league one seasons? Its posters trying to somehow rewrite history in hindsight that gets to me i must admit. Axe hasn't put down his Conference season at all. DC knew exactly what was needed to gain promotion, having managed in non-league prior to us. He didn't make the mistake of signing technically gifted players like other managers who found themselves in the Conference, he signed battlers who could play other sides at their style and level. Plus he got some outrageous luck at Wembley versus 'Grimsbury'. I was there and I had my head in my hands when Puddy handled outside his area. I was amazed when the ref bottled it and only gave him a yellow. That was a sending -off all day long, and that would have been the game gone with 80+ minutes and 10 men, because we were outplayed that day. Did I celebrate? Of course I did, and madly. I was a little perturbed at the way DC turned and ran to the Rovers end when Lee's pen went in. He split the players celebration and it seemed like he was making it all about him when that should have been the players moment. You may say I am being unkind, but he's got form regarding his ego, his statements about 'Me fans' etc. I am not saying that I was anything other than grateful fot the 2 promotions and will always respect DC for them. However, he has been Sussed, found out and I'm afraid he is a one trick pony and only capable in the Conference divisions, and barely competent in League 2 if his present performance is anything to go by. he Only capable in the conference? Please explain as I’m sure he got us promotion to league 1 from league 2 which makes your other comment about being barley competent in league 2 look also rather daft. One other thing , what about his successful league positions in league 1 ? I take it you are choosing to forget that as well ? DC = LEGEND !!
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