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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 5, 2019 9:47:48 GMT
Remember those calling for drugs to be legalized? These are just two NHS reports from today. "THE number of people being taken to hospital after taking "zombie" drug Spice and other strains of cannabis has more than doubled since the start of the decade. Figures show the number of NHS admissions in the past year is up six times on the level in 2008." Hospital admissions
How about Cocaine? "MIDDLE-aged cocaine users are being rushed to hospital at a record rate. Cases involving those in their 50s and 60s hit 1,774 last year — three times the number five years ago, latest NHS figures show." CocaineNobody said either of those drugs should be legalised actually, you made that up. We were talking about cannabis. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 9:56:48 GMT
Remember those calling for drugs to be legalized? These are just two NHS reports from today. "THE number of people being taken to hospital after taking "zombie" drug Spice and other strains of cannabis has more than doubled since the start of the decade. Figures show the number of NHS admissions in the past year is up six times on the level in 2008." Hospital admissions
How about Cocaine? "MIDDLE-aged cocaine users are being rushed to hospital at a record rate. Cases involving those in their 50s and 60s hit 1,774 last year — three times the number five years ago, latest NHS figures show." CocaineNobody said either of those drugs should be legalised actually, you made that up. We were talking about cannabis. "THE number of people being taken to hospital after taking "zombie" drug Spice and other strains of cannabis has more than doubled since the start of the decade." "Last year there were a total of 33,364 admissions linked to the substances which is up 6 per cent on the figure for 2017/18. This equates to around 91 Brits a day." Is it any wonder that the NHS is struggling? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 5, 2019 10:03:49 GMT
Nobody said either of those drugs should be legalised actually, you made that up. We were talking about cannabis. "THE number of people being taken to hospital after taking "zombie" drug Spice and other strains of cannabis has more than doubled since the start of the decade." "Last year there were a total of 33,364 admissions linked to the substances which is up 6 per cent on the figure for 2017/18. This equates to around 91 Brits a day." Is it any wonder that the NHS is struggling? Its a synthetic cannabinoid (binds to the same receptors). Not cannabis as you and I know it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 10:21:15 GMT
"THE number of people being taken to hospital after taking "zombie" drug Spice and other strains of cannabis has more than doubled since the start of the decade." "Last year there were a total of 33,364 admissions linked to the substances which is up 6 per cent on the figure for 2017/18. This equates to around 91 Brits a day." Is it any wonder that the NHS is struggling? Its a synthetic cannabinoid (binds to the same receptors). Not cannabis as you and I know it. Sorry Officer, but I think you've lost this one. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 5, 2019 10:55:20 GMT
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Post by althepirate on Nov 5, 2019 22:00:34 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2019 22:30:28 GMT
My sister in law is a double transplant recipient. I'm all in favour of the 'opt out' policy. Good luck to her. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 23:09:01 GMT
Cheers Nobby. A quick Google search suggests that German insurance rates are 15.5% of salary, 7.3% employers and 8.2% employees. The average UK salary is £29,000 (😶) and there are 32m people working. In very crude terms that would generate £144bn compared to £125bn. As I said though, a crude comparison for illustrative purposes only. As a funding generator it may help but I would suggest that the differences are more than the headline figures.Personally I would welcome tax clarity and swapping health funding from general taxation to NI may help, perhaps change to 20% NI and 12% income tax for other government spend. This is what I keep saying. It is not the amount of money you plough into the NHS, but how that money is spent. To all ends and purposes it does appear as though spending on Health is pretty similar between the UK and Germany. The difference is that Germany has a Gold Standard Health Service. The UK doesn't. Why is life expectancy lower in germany than the UK then despite the "gold standard"? |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 8, 2019 1:52:20 GMT
To all ends and purposes it does appear as though spending on Health is pretty similar between the UK and Germany. The difference is that Germany has a Gold Standard Health Service. The UK doesn't.
Spending per person (2017):
Germany $5,280
UK $4,246
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 6:53:08 GMT
To all ends and purposes it does appear as though spending on Health is pretty similar between the UK and Germany. The difference is that Germany has a Gold Standard Health Service. The UK doesn't.
Spending per person (2017):
Germany $5,280
UK $4,246
The figures don't deal with reality. In Germany your employer pays approx. 50% of your health insurance and the amount you pay is a percentage of your wage. Wages are generally higher in Germany than the UK so just looking at those numbers is a bit misleading. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 6:54:01 GMT
This is what I keep saying. It is not the amount of money you plough into the NHS, but how that money is spent. To all ends and purposes it does appear as though spending on Health is pretty similar between the UK and Germany. The difference is that Germany has a Gold Standard Health Service. The UK doesn't. Why is life expectancy lower in germany than the UK then despite the "gold standard"? Is it? I've no idea......It's probably due to the sour kraut and crap sausages. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 8, 2019 7:39:50 GMT
Why is life expectancy lower in germany than the UK then despite the "gold standard"? Is it? I've no idea......It's probably due to the sour kraut and crap sausages. And the fact that they keep declaring war on countries like Russia and America. That can`t help. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 8:51:16 GMT
Is it? I've no idea......It's probably due to the sour kraut and crap sausages. And the fact that they keep declaring war on countries like Russia and America. That can`t help. That just made me spit my coffee out in laughter.🤣🤣😎 |
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Post by baggins on Nov 8, 2019 13:19:06 GMT
Why is life expectancy lower in germany than the UK then despite the "gold standard"? Is it? I've no idea......It's probably due to the sour kraut and crap sausages. And your women are hairy. Really, really hairy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 17:37:37 GMT
Is it? I've no idea......It's probably due to the sour kraut and crap sausages. And your women are hairy. Really, really hairy. German women. Good card players, |
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Post by baggins on Nov 9, 2019 6:01:46 GMT
And your women are hairy. Really, really hairy. German women. Good card players, What? Really? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 10:22:12 GMT
German women. Good card players, What? Really? According to the major in fawlty towers yes |
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Post by althepirate on Nov 9, 2019 22:15:18 GMT
According to the major in fawlty towers yes Strikes, strikes, strikes, I don't know why we bother Fawlty. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 11, 2019 2:53:34 GMT
Spending per person (2017):
Germany $5,280
UK $4,246
The figures don't deal with reality. In Germany your employer pays approx. 50% of your health insurance and the amount you pay is a percentage of your wage. Wages are generally higher in Germany than the UK so just looking at those numbers is a bit misleading.
Germany spends more money per capita, has a higher ratio of beds and a higher ratio of doctors.
Spending per person (2017):
Germany: $5,280
UK: $4,246
Doctors per 1,000 people:
Germany: 4.1 UK: 2.8
Hospital Beds per 1,000 people (2015):
Germany: 8.13
UK: 2.61
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 8:20:22 GMT
The figures don't deal with reality. In Germany your employer pays approx. 50% of your health insurance and the amount you pay is a percentage of your wage. Wages are generally higher in Germany than the UK so just looking at those numbers is a bit misleading.
Germany spends more money per capita, has a higher ratio of beds and a higher ratio of doctors.
Spending per person (2017):
Germany: $5,280
UK: $4,246
Doctors per 1,000 people:
Germany: 4.1 UK: 2.8
Hospital Beds per 1,000 people (2015):
Germany: 8.13
UK: 2.61
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