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Post by socrates on Oct 19, 2019 20:59:42 GMT
I think there comes a time when you can't carry on blaming the non striker for not scoring. That's exactly what he is, a non scoring striker. It's not his fault. It just hasn't worked and his goal return is less than woeful. Don't wrap yourself up trying to change stats, people or the way things are. Nichols may be many things off the pitch, he may be many things on it, but goalscorer.....no. The blame for playing him lies squarely with the management. So, after all this time, you have to ask why to GC? So. Why? So what's the options, flog Smith to death and upset his own club/risk burn out? Replace him with Bennett who's even worse? The truth is GC's got no choice but to play TN, either from the start or as a sub whilst JCH is out injured. Can’t see the problem with starting Smith who’s clearly a better poacher than Nichols alongside Adeboyjo unless Adeboyjo was injured or ill today ? Nichols and Smith doesn’t seem to be working as a partnership which isn’t really surprising they’re both quite small build.
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Post by craggo on Oct 19, 2019 21:09:25 GMT
The stats say it all, He is rubbish. But while he is wearing our shirt, He should be backed by the fans.
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Post by stargas on Oct 19, 2019 21:11:33 GMT
Leave TN alone, I'm sure he'll come good next season....or the season after that
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Post by LJG on Oct 19, 2019 22:28:05 GMT
I think there comes a time when you can't carry on blaming the non striker for not scoring. That's exactly what he is, a non scoring striker. It's not his fault. It just hasn't worked and his goal return is less than woeful. Don't wrap yourself up trying to change stats, people or the way things are. Nichols may be many things off the pitch, he may be many things on it, but goalscorer.....no. The blame for playing him lies squarely with the management. So, after all this time, you have to ask why to GC? So. Why? So what's the options, flog Smith to death and upset his own club/risk burn out? Replace him with Bennett who's even worse? The truth is GC's got no choice but to play TN, either from the start or as a sub whilst JCH is out injured. Everyone is worse than Nichols according to you. Sadly statistics disagree with you pretty much every time. Players you've said are worse than Nichols: Payne - higher goals to minutes played. Jakubiak - way higher goals to minutes played. Reilly - higher goals to minutes played. Bennett - same. Ollie Clarke - guess what?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 19, 2019 22:51:36 GMT
Record aside Tom is being scapegoated tonight.
A few weeks back it was looking like he was turning the corner. A season is a long time. Let's see where he is in Jan and then review.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Oct 19, 2019 22:51:37 GMT
Utter rubbish. It's not the same as racial abuse at all. He's a very well paid footballer, one who's forte is supposed to be goal scoring. The he fact that he doesn't ever score, even though he plays virtually every game, and then completely f**ks up a penalty, means he should expect all the abuse he gets. Refrain my arse, he needs to know just how we feel. Your vile treatment of Tom Nichols is as unacceptable as racial abuse and should not be tolerated on this Forum. Would you say it to his face with the manager and team stood behind him?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 0:12:52 GMT
I simply believe coughlan is being pragmatic in his approach regarding tom nichols. He cannot offload him until the end of the season so he may as well use him until then. He is capable of playing deeper in away games than both the loan strikers which i think has helped him to get unlikely starts ahead of adebayo. I think the manager has got it wrong starting him in the last 2 games since the JCH injury but i can see his thinking behind it. The style of football we play with coughlan really needs a target man but we have not got any fit target men so we have a problem right now.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 20, 2019 6:50:17 GMT
Your vile treatment of Tom Nichols is as unacceptable as racial abuse and should not be tolerated on this Forum. Would you say it to his face with the manager and team stood behind him? And just to compound Nicholls uselessness, did you see his reaction to missing the penalty? He gave a comedy 'shucks' arm wave, like he really couldn't give a toss. And the penalty, he rolled it along the ground, down the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers midriff. No power, no direction. Whatever was he thinking? I reckon he was thinking "I don't give a toss, I get 3 grand a week and another grand for playing, and I'm getting that till the summer, where Ill get a free transfer and negotiate another 3 year deal somewhere else. He clearly and obviously doesn't give a toss.
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Post by singupgas on Oct 20, 2019 7:06:39 GMT
Have to agree TN is being used as a scapegoat after yesterday's loss. Everyone misses a pen occasionally. Doncaster still put 2 goals past us.
I would have like to seen more of Adebajyo or Moore in JCH absence, but that is also up to GC who I think is doing a decent job.
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Post by Congas on Oct 20, 2019 7:08:28 GMT
BRFC Twitter account: Nichols has penalty saved. Now that was funny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 7:45:48 GMT
And just to compound Nicholls uselessness, did you see his reaction to missing the penalty? He gave a comedy 'shucks' arm wave, like he really couldn't give a toss. And the penalty, he rolled it along the ground, down the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers midriff. No power, no direction. Whatever was he thinking? I reckon he was thinking "I don't give a toss, I get 3 grand a week and another grand for playing, and I'm getting that till the summer, where Ill get a free transfer and negotiate another 3 year deal somewhere else. He clearly and obviously doesn't give a toss. A post every bit as pathetic as the penalty
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Post by Thatslife on Oct 20, 2019 8:08:02 GMT
Think a lot of people are missing the point, yes the penalty was crap et etc but we were also totally outplayed for most of the game. They were quicker, more skillfull and if they had a resonabley good striker they could have had 4 or 5 goal lead by half time.
We had no penatration what so ever, several players were well below par. Agogo was, for some reason a couple of econds off the pace. Rodman was good going forward but a fullback he will never be.Clark looked unfit after his injury, if he wasn' totally match fit then Hargreaves should have started the game.
I don't care what pairing of short players GC picks, they are not good enought to be successful in this league.
In the end you have to accept that they had a free pass to run through our midfield whenever they wanted.
Rant over, I'll get my coat.
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Post by Blueside on Oct 20, 2019 8:15:02 GMT
This thread reminds of the forum when JCH took a terrible penalty (and missed) when we had the chance of a win away at Pompey.... Just saying.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 20, 2019 9:05:32 GMT
I think there comes a time when you can't carry on blaming the non striker for not scoring. That's exactly what he is, a non scoring striker. It's not his fault. It just hasn't worked and his goal return is less than woeful. Don't wrap yourself up trying to change stats, people or the way things are. Nichols may be many things off the pitch, he may be many things on it, but goalscorer.....no. The blame for playing him lies squarely with the management. So, after all this time, you have to ask why to GC? So. Why? So what's the options, flog Smith to death and upset his own club/risk burn out? Replace him with Bennett who's even worse? The truth is GC's got no choice but to play TN, either from the start or as a sub whilst JCH is out injured. Options is to move on from the optimistic hypnosis we all suffer with hoping players will come good.... even after 2.5 years and over 80 league matches. I say firstly, most importantly look to cancel Nichols contract, or place on loan. Probably to Bath City....hang on, I quite like them....Yeovile then. Then.... make preparations with Moore, Victor, Tyler and recall Reilly (if possible). I would also trial a Sercombe playing behind the strikers format. Bennett is at best a sub place and we should be looking now for decent winger in January and follow the same procedure as Nichols for him early next year.. We need to move on from this.
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Post by socrates on Oct 20, 2019 9:12:26 GMT
I simply believe coughlan is being pragmatic in his approach regarding tom nichols. He cannot offload him until the end of the season so he may as well use him until then. He is capable of playing deeper in away games than both the loan strikers which i think has helped him to get unlikely starts ahead of adebayo. I think the manager has got it wrong starting him in the last 2 games since the JCH injury but i can see his thinking behind it. The style of football we play with coughlan really needs a target man but we have not got any fit target men so we have a problem right now. Exactly as I see it. Cogs has got most things right since he took over but he’s going to get the odd thing wrong. He is human.
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Post by Congas on Oct 20, 2019 10:17:49 GMT
Victor has a lot more presence up front than Nichols. What about the kid coming through in the development team? You have to give them a chance at some point.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 20, 2019 10:30:08 GMT
Victor has a lot more presence up front than Nichols. What about the kid coming through in the development team? You have to give them a chance at some point. Not if they aren't good enough, which I'm guessing they're not yet if they're not making the team. Victor has more presence but Nichols is better all round IMO. Nichols and Smith are too lightweight as a pairing.
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Post by popuppirate on Oct 20, 2019 11:15:35 GMT
Fine margins in football. Many penalties are scored by the taker "passing" into the middle of the goal with the keeper flying towards either post. Had that happened, which it does frequently, we'd be saying how it demonstrates confidence by the player. We'd also be saying how brave of the manager and how correct the decision was to let him take it as one goal can lead to another. We're 7th in the table, and TN has played a part in this. It really won't be helping anything to increase the abuse he's already received.
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Post by lpgas on Oct 20, 2019 11:49:40 GMT
Your vile treatment of Tom Nichols is as unacceptable as racial abuse and should not be tolerated on this Forum. Would you say it to his face with the manager and team stood behind him? How can being called a lady garden be racist? are there a race of lady gardens out there somewhere in Devon?
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Post by lpgas on Oct 20, 2019 11:52:45 GMT
I watched it on Quest last night and they said "he has a record of scoring 4 goals in 83 league games". What other club would put up with that? As for his contract, I was told 3 and 1/2 years when he signed. Why don't we give him to Walsall?
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