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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 13:55:59 GMT
I wouldn’t risk it if I were him. He’s so far ahead in the polls that will a good showing realistically improve that? On the flip side a poor showing could see the gap narrowed a bit. Interesting dilemma for him. His appearance or otherwise doesn’t really bother me as like most people I have known for a long time which way I will vote. Neil is good but most of the other interviewers are just self publicists looking for personal headlines and improving their own standing in the media. As trustworthy as politicians!! That's right. Why should Johnson risk it! There's no need. At every step so far the Tories have outwitted Labour. The first Leader Debate on TV was after the Labour Manifesto had been launched, but the Tories held their's back. It gave ammunition to Johnson. This time Corbyn went on the Andrew Neil Show first, and we all saw how that turned out. The seven way one is just stupid. Why should Johnson give equal opportunities to the Greens (one MP), Plaid (four?), SNP (Scottish issues only), Lib Dems (twelve?). They would only gang up with Labour against him. A pointless debate. I don't think we'll see Corbyn either giving a live interview or appearing on any live tv debate again during this campaign. The disaster of the AN interview will not go away. Johnson has need to do any tv debates. The only ones who want to do tv debates are the ones who desperately need to 'catch up'. What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 14:01:34 GMT
That's right. Why should Johnson risk it! There's no need. At every step so far the Tories have outwitted Labour. The first Leader Debate on TV was after the Labour Manifesto had been launched, but the Tories held their's back. It gave ammunition to Johnson. This time Corbyn went on the Andrew Neil Show first, and we all saw how that turned out. The seven way one is just stupid. Why should Johnson give equal opportunities to the Greens (one MP), Plaid (four?), SNP (Scottish issues only), Lib Dems (twelve?). They would only gang up with Labour against him. A pointless debate. I don't think we'll see Corbyn either giving a live interview or appearing on any live tv debate again during this campaign. The disaster of the AN interview will not go away. Johnson has need to do any tv debates. The only ones who want to do tv debates are the ones who desperately need to 'catch up'. What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. Policy detail? You have seen the Manifesto's ? |
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Post by peterparker on Nov 28, 2019 14:03:23 GMT
I wouldn’t risk it if I were him. He’s so far ahead in the polls that will a good showing realistically improve that? On the flip side a poor showing could see the gap narrowed a bit. Interesting dilemma for him. His appearance or otherwise doesn’t really bother me as like most people I have known for a long time which way I will vote. Neil is good but most of the other interviewers are just self publicists looking for personal headlines and improving their own standing in the media. As trustworthy as politicians!! That's right. Why should Johnson risk it! There's no need. At every step so far the Tories have outwitted Labour. The first Leader Debate on TV was after the Labour Manifesto had been launched, but the Tories held their's back. It gave ammunition to Johnson. This time Corbyn went on the Andrew Neil Show first, and we all saw how that turned out. The seven way one is just stupid. Why should Johnson give equal opportunities to the Greens (one MP), Plaid (four?), SNP (Scottish issues only), Lib Dems (twelve?). They would only gang up with Labour against him. A pointless debate. I don't think we'll see Corbyn either giving a live interview or appearing on any live tv debate again during this campaign. The disaster of the AN interview will not go away. Johnson has need to do any tv debates. The only ones who want to do tv debates are the ones who desperately need to 'catch up'. well yeah, we all know it makes sense for him to not risk being interviewed and skewered by Neil, especially when the answer to everything is "Get BREXIT Done"
Doesn't make it right though does it?
I can fully accept the arguments for avoiding a 7 way slanging match (Not sure why The Tories or Labour couldn't put up a more senior minister though if they are going to do it), but to attempt to dodge a 1 on 1 as the current and prospective leader of the country is poor form when everyone else has put themselves up for scrutiny.
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 28, 2019 14:23:35 GMT
It's been said before, neither of them will appear on Channel 4. Channel 4 has a history of stitching them both up. As for 'Climate Change' just look at the Labout lies. They say they will upgrade every home in the country, including cavity wall insulation, loft insulation, double glazing and solar panels, all within ten years. It's all part of their 150 billion pound tranformation package. The only problem is simple maths in that they will have to complete 7,000 homes every single day for ten years to reach that target. So that's just an outright lie as that will never ever happen. The same with their claim to plant 2 billion trees in twenty years. That will require 270,000 trees being planted every single day for twenty years. It just ain't going to happen, so more lies. What is the point in trying to debate with people (Labour) who spout such nonsense? I'm not sure they are that far off on the trees. One single mechanised tree planter running 12 hours a day can plant 2000 trees. So 4 of those on a site can plant 8000 per day. So you would only need 30 or so sites across the whole of the UK to hit that target actually. Interestingly the manual method is nearly as fast. Finland plant about 175 million trees every year. Thats 3.5 billion over 20 years and they find space for it in a country that already has 10 trees per every person on earth. The tree planting pledge is a farce as planning in this country for tree planting is notoriously difficult to get As far the home upgrade pledge I don't think I want any of that for my home (already have loft insulation ),don't want my windows changed or stuff injected into the walls as the place is 200 years old!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 14:43:53 GMT
That's right. Why should Johnson risk it! There's no need. At every step so far the Tories have outwitted Labour. The first Leader Debate on TV was after the Labour Manifesto had been launched, but the Tories held their's back. It gave ammunition to Johnson. This time Corbyn went on the Andrew Neil Show first, and we all saw how that turned out. The seven way one is just stupid. Why should Johnson give equal opportunities to the Greens (one MP), Plaid (four?), SNP (Scottish issues only), Lib Dems (twelve?). They would only gang up with Labour against him. A pointless debate. I don't think we'll see Corbyn either giving a live interview or appearing on any live tv debate again during this campaign. The disaster of the AN interview will not go away. Johnson has need to do any tv debates. The only ones who want to do tv debates are the ones who desperately need to 'catch up'. What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 14:48:23 GMT
It's been said before, neither of them will appear on Channel 4. Channel 4 has a history of stitching them both up. As for 'Climate Change' just look at the Labout lies. They say they will upgrade every home in the country, including cavity wall insulation, loft insulation, double glazing and solar panels, all within ten years. It's all part of their 150 billion pound tranformation package. The only problem is simple maths in that they will have to complete 7,000 homes every single day for ten years to reach that target. So that's just an outright lie as that will never ever happen. The same with their claim to plant 2 billion trees in twenty years. That will require 270,000 trees being planted every single day for twenty years. It just ain't going to happen, so more lies. What is the point in trying to debate with people (Labour) who spout such nonsense? I'm not sure they are that far off on the trees. One single mechanised tree planter running 12 hours a day can plant 2000 trees. So 4 of those on a site can plant 8000 per day. So you would only need 30 or so sites across the whole of the UK to hit that target actually. Interestingly the manual method is nearly as fast. Finland plant about 175 million trees every year. Thats 3.5 billion over 20 years and they find space for it in a country that already has 10 trees per every person on earth. Well that should cover Prince Harry’s carbon offsetting. What about the rest 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 14:58:56 GMT
I'm not sure they are that far off on the trees. One single mechanised tree planter running 12 hours a day can plant 2000 trees. So 4 of those on a site can plant 8000 per day. So you would only need 30 or so sites across the whole of the UK to hit that target actually. Interestingly the manual method is nearly as fast. Finland plant about 175 million trees every year. Thats 3.5 billion over 20 years and they find space for it in a country that already has 10 trees per every person on earth. The tree planting pledge is a farce as planning in this country for tree planting is notoriously difficult to get As far the home upgrade pledge I don't think I want any of that for my home (already have loft insulation ),don't want my windows changed or stuff injected into the walls as the place is 200 years old!! I bought my current home just over a year ago. It’s a new build built by a private developer including just two homes. As part of the planning application the developer had to satisfy various green targets which is all fine. One of the things he had to do was include solar panels - this seems little more than a box ticking exercise as they were allowed to put on the lowest number of low rating panels as they could get away with. I make approximately £60 a year so not really generating much at all. If I was to buy them myself it would take nearly a lifetime to reimburse the installation cost. I guess the most important thing was South Glos council could add it to their list of homes with green energy and blow their own trumpets. A bit like councils that boast about recycling numbers thinking they are the best thing since Bill Oddie but sell rubbish overseas and transport it by boat - and not the sort of boat that Swedish kid Gercha Thundercat ponces about in either. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:19:25 GMT
What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters But, but but, what about...anything apparently but policy. You make my point very precisely..notwithstanding falling into "whataboutery". Jesus christ. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:22:23 GMT
From Eric
"- and not the sort of boat that Swedish kid Gercha Thundercat ponces about in either."
Tells everyone all they need to know.
Nauseating.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 28, 2019 15:23:40 GMT
What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters By all means let's discuss it. What's your hot take? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:24:20 GMT
What a sad state of affairs that voters, Nobby and Eric in this case, are more impressed by tactics rather than policy detail. What a terrible state of affairs. What on earth happened to our education system. Policy detail? You have seen the Manifesto's ? The Tory manifesto had less content than the beano. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:25:45 GMT
Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters By all means let's discuss it. What's your hot take? Taps fingers on the table in eager anticipation.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:36:08 GMT
Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters But, but but, what about...anything apparently but policy. You make my point very precisely..notwithstanding falling into "whataboutery". Jesus christ. Your entire existence on this forum is based on 'whataboutery'!
It must hurt as the reality of a Tory government and BJ continuing as PM comes closer.
If only posting on a Bristol Rovers message board could change that, hey? 
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:39:26 GMT
Tactics? Lets talk about the pathetic anti-tory tactical voters By all means let's discuss it. What's your hot take? I asked you first. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:41:27 GMT
But, but but, what about...anything apparently but policy. You make my point very precisely..notwithstanding falling into "whataboutery". Jesus christ. Your entire existence on this forum is based on 'whataboutery'!
It must hurt as the reality of a Tory government and BJ continuing as PM comes closer.
If only posting on a Bristol Rovers message board could change that, hey?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 28, 2019 15:47:12 GMT
By all means let's discuss it. What's your hot take? I asked you first. You didnt ask me anything. You said 'let's talk about pathetic anti Tory tactical voters'. So let's talk - what have you got to say? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 15:52:00 GMT
You didnt ask me anything. You said 'let's talk about pathetic anti Tory tactical voters'. So let's talk - what have you got to say? 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 16:19:51 GMT
You didnt ask me anything. You said 'let's talk about pathetic anti Tory tactical voters'. So let's talk - what have you got to say? Knock knock, anybody there? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 16:26:19 GMT
You didnt ask me anything. You said 'let's talk about pathetic anti Tory tactical voters'. So let's talk - what have you got to say? I guess you can see my apathy in discussing anti-Tory tactical voting with, um, anti-Tories. I'd get bored very quickly. Don't hate me for this. See you on the 12th. |
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Post by peterparker on Nov 28, 2019 16:45:50 GMT
Don't know what Boris is scared off
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