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Post by peterparker on Dec 9, 2019 7:54:44 GMT
On a lighter note, who do we expect to be the Michael Portillo of this election? As much as I would love to see Uxbridge unseat BJ, I suspect he will hang on but Swinson, IDS, Flint and Steve Baker are vulnerable. Apparantly Labour are throwing the kitchen sink at Baker' and IDS' constituencies. Possibly Raab in Esher or Ian Duncan-Smith in Chingford. Don’t think either would be good at presenting TV programmes on railways! UTG! edit: sorry, saw you mentioned IDS. IDS only has a majority of around 2,500. Raab would be something big as his majority id like 20,000, but reckon that could be close as it really seems very few people like the f**ker
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 9, 2019 7:58:37 GMT
On a lighter note, who do we expect to be the Michael Portillo of this election? As much as I would love to see Uxbridge unseat BJ, I suspect he will hang on but Swinson, IDS, Flint and Steve Baker are vulnerable. Apparantly Labour are throwing the kitchen sink at Baker' and IDS' constituencies. That would be a free kitchen sink for everyone I presume? Don't tell my wife, she packs one for holidays, two would be too much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 8:17:52 GMT
Possibly Raab in Esher or Ian Duncan-Smith in Chingford. Don’t think either would be good at presenting TV programmes on railways! UTG! edit: sorry, saw you mentioned IDS. IDS only has a majority of around 2,500. Raab would be something big as his majority id like 20,000, but reckon that could be close as it really seems very few people like the f**ker There is no way a majority of 20,000 would be overturned.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 8:27:09 GMT
Stories like this make my teeth itch ! Seven kids, and she is twenty five....and they are moaning that they don't get enough money and have to go to a foodbank..........FFS ! In amongst all of this, you really have to feel sorry for the kids. They have no future with parents like this. "Ryan Rodgers, 26, and his partner Jenny Grimes, 25, from Kirkby, Liverpool say they used to receive £2,100 a month in financial support but the introduction of the benefit cap has left their finances decimated." - Just how much would you have to earn to bring home 2,100 quid a month? Read this and weep...."Mr Rodgers, who used to work in restaurants as a waiter, said he had been washing cars to pay for his family's electricity bills. His plight has affected his mental health and he suffers from depression and anxiety, describing how his situation has left him feeling 'useless'. It also led to him becoming an alcoholic, which he has now battled through. A charity called Care UK, based in Warrington, have been invaluable, the father said, providing the family-of-nine with regular food parcels. Mr Rodgers, who has been with Ms Grimes for seven years, said: 'With Christmas, there's so much we need but can't provide for the kids as a family. 'It's got to the stage where we've got to do something about it. Food banks only go so far. It's a real struggle. 'I have friends without children who get more than us. Just the one baby costs £40 a week.
'I want to get full-time work but I can't with the kids. 'We have to speak out, we've not go a choice, it's no longer how I feel, the children are the priority. 'We need an opportunity. It's out of order we can just be left to get on with it. ' We've been set up to fail as parents by the state.
'There's nobody to contact about our situation, the Job Centre workers just tell us it's not their department." 7 kids at aged 25.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 9, 2019 8:35:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 8:39:59 GMT
Stories like this make my teeth itch ! Seven kids, and she is twenty five....and they are moaning that they don't get enough money and have to go to a foodbank..........FFS ! In amongst all of this, you really have to feel sorry for the kids. They have no future with parents like this. "Ryan Rodgers, 26, and his partner Jenny Grimes, 25, from Kirkby, Liverpool say they used to receive £2,100 a month in financial support but the introduction of the benefit cap has left their finances decimated." - Just how much would you have to earn to bring home 2,100 quid a month? Read this and weep...."Mr Rodgers, who used to work in restaurants as a waiter, said he had been washing cars to pay for his family's electricity bills. His plight has affected his mental health and he suffers from depression and anxiety, describing how his situation has left him feeling 'useless'. It also led to him becoming an alcoholic, which he has now battled through. A charity called Care UK, based in Warrington, have been invaluable, the father said, providing the family-of-nine with regular food parcels. Mr Rodgers, who has been with Ms Grimes for seven years, said: 'With Christmas, there's so much we need but can't provide for the kids as a family. 'It's got to the stage where we've got to do something about it. Food banks only go so far. It's a real struggle. 'I have friends without children who get more than us. Just the one baby costs £40 a week.
'I want to get full-time work but I can't with the kids. 'We have to speak out, we've not go a choice, it's no longer how I feel, the children are the priority. 'We need an opportunity. It's out of order we can just be left to get on with it. ' We've been set up to fail as parents by the state.
'There's nobody to contact about our situation, the Job Centre workers just tell us it's not their department." 7 kids at aged 25.They are, clearly, feckless wankers. But this sort of sh**e is rare, and it's a pointless argument when faced with reality of the numbers of working poor.
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Post by yetigas on Dec 9, 2019 8:59:58 GMT
Boris Johnson has lost the support of Michael Heseltine, John Major and Ken Clarke but has got the support of Tommy Robinson.
What else is there to say? KEEP HIM OUT!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:15:06 GMT
Boris Johnson has lost the support of Michael Heseltine, John Major and Ken Clarke but has got the support of Tommy Robinson. What else is there to say? KEEP HIM OUT!!!!!!!! Heh ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:17:08 GMT
Boris Johnson has lost the support of Michael Heseltine, John Major and Ken Clarke but has got the support of Tommy Robinson. What else is there to say? KEEP HIM OUT!!!!!!!! Heh ? Translate this way then. Those of us in the centre do not support people like Johnson. But those on the extremes do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:18:42 GMT
"if you think you’re being deprived of the life you think you deserve" - Only a Socialist could think like this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:19:12 GMT
No of course not. In the course of my work assessing income protection claims we come across plenty of individuals who are fit for work but choose not to for fairly lame reasons. It’s a frustrating business as you can help a really driven individual get back to work after a serious accident or once they completed their chemotherapy treatment and on the flip side you have people with very little wrong resisting every effort to get them back to work. These individuals are also claiming state benefit. You can look at every regional newspaper in the country and there will be multiple cases every day of people cheating the benefit system and very rarely does it ever get paid back. I don’t believe anyone at DWP carries out in depth analysis of what someone on benefits spend their money on. I’ve said before that state benefit (excluding pension) should be paid by a voucher system only redeemable only on essential goods. So to stop the one with a lame reason you will be making it harder for the one on chemo? Multiple cases every day in every local paper? Quite an assertion, but exaggeration for effect I presume. As for vouchers, that is quite a stigma to attach to people you want to help in order to prevent an unknown number who you feel abuse the system. Keep a tally this week of cases you feel are fraudulent and genuine. Let us know. Cannot wait for this bloke to answer your question, but of course he will not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:20:42 GMT
"if you think you’re being deprived of the life you think you deserve" - Only a Socialist could think like this. Personally, I would have worded it differently, but general thrust is correct.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 9:21:39 GMT
Translate this way then. Those of us in the centre do not support people like Johnson. But those on the extremes do. "But those on the extremes do." - *cough*, *splutter* are you saying that the Labour leadership are secret Johnson supporters? Utter utter nonsense. Once again you generalise and attempt to paint everyone with the same brush.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:01:09 GMT
Translate this way then. Those of us in the centre do not support people like Johnson. But those on the extremes do. "But those on the extremes do." - *cough*, *splutter* are you saying that the Labour leadership are secret Johnson supporters? Utter utter nonsense. Once again you generalise and attempt to paint everyone with the same brush. As usual Nobby you apply a simplistic interpretation with your "Outraged of Tonbridge Wells" face on. What has Corbyn got to do with a comment on Johnson? The exact same comment applies (that I made.) to him. The fact remains that the majority who reside in the centre ground of politics do not support Johnson. Neither do we, to keep it simple for you, support Corbyn. It's like the (now) old Brexit analogy, "Not all people who voted leave were racist, but most certainly all racists voted leave" In the case of Johnson, a man who has made racist, homophobic and frankly disgusting comments on child sex abuse police enquiries, it's hard to believe anyone could see past that and vote for him. Its unbelievable. Yet, we (the centre) hear you say, "what about (the good old "whataboutery") Corbyn? He supported Palestinians and the Catholic Nationalists in NI" Is that really an argument in defense of Johnson? Notwithstanding Corbyns six form vocabulary in voicing that support. Words repeated ad nauseam in the usual trash newspapers. Really, you want to defend all that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:08:03 GMT
More utter bollox from the right wing loonies in the Tory Party. Cannot wait for the "outraged" responses on here. Although not from Eric, he is too busy finding the numbers of people who are claiming benefits whilst also claiming income protection insurance. Boris Johnson unable to explain Tory home secretary's 'dodgy' claim … flip.it/HGgo7U
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:18:00 GMT
In other words: “We will happily welcome more Tory party donors into the country” The “points based system” will be the amount box on a cheque and you get 1 point for every £50,000 that you generously give to the Conservatives. As an act of goodwill the Tories will promise not to ask any questions about your political background or how you acquired your funds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:21:28 GMT
Possibly Raab in Esher or Ian Duncan-Smith in Chingford. Don’t think either would be good at presenting TV programmes on railways! UTG! edit: sorry, saw you mentioned IDS. IDS only has a majority of around 2,500. Raab would be something big as his majority id like 20,000, but reckon that could be close as it really seems very few people like the f**ker The BBC did a piece from Esher the other day and it seems that there is a sea change with liberals gaining significant ground. I wonder if the Harry Dunn case will also have an effect on his popularity?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:23:56 GMT
In other words: “We will happily welcome more Tory party donors into the country” The “points based system” will be the amount box on a cheque and you get 1 point for every £50,000 that you generously give to the Conservatives. As an act of goodwill the Tories will promise not to ask any questions about your political background or how you acquired your funds. Ah, 50,000 quid. I do believe that was the amount that if paid to the last labour Government got you a seat in the House of Lords. Look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:27:10 GMT
More utter bollox from the right wing loonies in the Tory Party. Cannot wait for the "outraged" responses on here. Although not from Eric, he is too busy finding the numbers of people who are claiming benefits whilst also claiming income protection insurance. Boris Johnson unable to explain Tory home secretary's 'dodgy' claim … flip.it/HGgo7UShe is the very worst of the Tory party, even more so than Johnson. Honestly, she is one of the few women around who would actually suit a spider web tattoo on her face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 10:32:08 GMT
"But those on the extremes do." - *cough*, *splutter* are you saying that the Labour leadership are secret Johnson supporters? Utter utter nonsense. Once again you generalise and attempt to paint everyone with the same brush. As usual Nobby you apply a simplistic interpretation with your "Outraged of Tonbridge Wells" face on. What has Corbyn got to do with a comment on Johnson? The exact same comment applies (that I made.) to him. The fact remains that the majority who reside in the centre ground of politics do not support Johnson. Neither do we, to keep it simple for you, support Corbyn.
It's like the (now) old Brexit analogy, "Not all people who voted leave were racist, but most certainly all racists voted leave" In the case of Johnson, a man who has made racist, homophobic and frankly disgusting comments on child sex abuse police enquiries, it's hard to believe anyone could see past that and vote for him. Its unbelievable. Yet, we (the centre) hear you say, "what about (the good old "whataboutery") Corbyn? He supported Palestinians and the Catholic Nationalists in NI" Is that really an argument in defense of Johnson? Notwithstanding Corbyns six form vocabulary in voicing that support. Words repeated ad nauseam in the usual trash newspapers. Really, you want to defend all that? Good to hear that you speak for the majority in the country. How come you're always on the losing side?
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