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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 6, 2019 8:25:47 GMT
After last nights games I thought there might be a levelling up of the L1 table but it still seems all over the place with teams playing between 13 and 17 games. Ok you can’t guarantee points but are we in a false position at the moment? With Rotherham only playing 15 games; Doncaster 14; Portsmouth 15 and Burton 14 these teams are likely to be higher when they catch up. Saw Ellis Harrison got 2 goals lastnight to help boost Portsmouth and Ipswich win and go back top with still a lot of catch up games to play. Is all this down to the Bury situation?
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Post by oldgas on Nov 6, 2019 8:39:42 GMT
Bury and to a lesser extent Bolton. Of course, Bolton are too big to be allowed to fold, so they were given extra time to get their act together, then went on to build a strong team just before the window closed with players that we and a lot of other L1 clubs could never afford to pay.
Not bad for a club with probably over 100 million in former debts. Level playing field my arse.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 6, 2019 8:42:13 GMT
How can it be due to the Bury situation as those teams can have only played them once at most?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 8:49:20 GMT
After last nights games I thought there might be a levelling up of the L1 table but it still seems all over the place with teams playing between 13 and 17 games. Ok you can’t guarantee points but are we in a false position at the moment? With Rotherham only playing 15 games; Doncaster 14; Portsmouth 15 and Burton 14 these teams are likely to be higher when they catch up. Saw Ellis Harrison got 2 goals lastnight to help boost Portsmouth and Ipswich win and go back top with still a lot of catch up games to play. Is all this down to the Bury situation? Portsmouth are the only team that can't go higher than us.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 6, 2019 8:59:57 GMT
How can it be due to the Bury situation as those teams can have only played them once at most? I guess some teams would have had their games against Bolton called off too earlier in the season. Also there have been a couple of international windows so far this season with another coming up. Not sure if that has had much impact though. A couple of games have also been called off so far this season due to the weather.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Nov 6, 2019 9:03:55 GMT
I'd say ignore everyone else's games in hand. Get ourselves as high up as possible and use that to gain confidence.
If the other teams catch up then so be it but we will be a better, more confident team for being higher up the table however it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 9:07:21 GMT
How can it be due to the Bury situation as those teams can have only played them once at most? I guess some teams would have had their games against Bolton called off too earlier in the season. Also there have been a couple of international windows so far this season with another coming up. Not sure if that has had much impact though. A couple of games have also been called off so far this season due to the weather. Bolton only called the one game off this season. They began the season at the beginning of August like the rest of us. Assume it must be the league cup Games involving clubs like Burton who progressed farther in the Competition, causing the backlog.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 6, 2019 9:21:21 GMT
This season's table is starting to look the complete reverse of last season's.
Last season, there were loads of teams (including Rovers) with similar accrued points in or around the relegation positions. This season, there are a lot of teams (including Rovers) with similar points in or around the playoff spots. This won't change much when all teams have played the same number of games.
Things start to become clearer around Christmas when about half the season's games have been played.
However, Wycombe have been a surprise package after a number of campaigns in the lower reaches of the league. Southend look in a bad way. Fully expect Bolton to escape relegation. Bolton will miraculously get some better players in January - should have been treated the same as Bury.
UTG
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 6, 2019 9:58:27 GMT
Bolton only had their Doncaster game postponed I think. Sunderland, Portsmouth and Burton international matches allowed them to postpone and October wettest October for many years leading to a few postponements last few weeks. Add all that to the Bury situation and you have an unbalanced table which I suppose will keep interest for more clubs longer perhaps. Because of Bury every week one club falls behind but I guess by the end of December everyone will have caught up over the the Bury issue UTG!
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Post by blueridge on Nov 6, 2019 10:21:49 GMT
This season's table is starting to look the complete reverse of last season's. Last season, there were loads of teams (including Rovers) with similar accrued points in or around the relegation positions. This season, there are a lot of teams (including Rovers) with similar points in or around the playoff spots. This won't change much when all teams have played the same number of games. Things start to become clearer around Christmas when about half the season's games have been played. However, Wycombe have been a surprise package after a number of campaigns in the lower reaches of the league. Southend look in a bad way. Fully expect Bolton to escape relegation. Bolton will miraculously get some better players in January - should have been treated the same as Bury. UTG I expect them to have more point deductions to come for cancelling a fixture this season and last season. Wouldn't be surprised if it was another 12 points to come off.
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 6, 2019 12:15:41 GMT
This season's table is starting to look the complete reverse of last season's. Last season, there were loads of teams (including Rovers) with similar accrued points in or around the relegation positions. This season, there are a lot of teams (including Rovers) with similar points in or around the playoff spots. This won't change much when all teams have played the same number of games. Things start to become clearer around Christmas when about half the season's games have been played. However, Wycombe have been a surprise package after a number of campaigns in the lower reaches of the league. Southend look in a bad way. Fully expect Bolton to escape relegation. Bolton will miraculously get some better players in January - should have been treated the same as Bury. UTG I expect them to have more point deductions to come for cancelling a fixture this season and last season. Wouldn't be surprised if it was another 12 points to come off. I agree with wilmslow, my take on the situation is that they increased their debt to continue trading. How is that in any way a fit and proper way to act, what about the players they still owe money to?
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Post by craggo on Nov 6, 2019 12:23:18 GMT
Bury were not allowed to play their games. They sold season tickets. Bolton could play. But only got season tickets sold from the televised Blackpool match. As much as i blame the EFL for the Bury mess it is a myth that they helped Bolton more. They had served Bury with the 2 weeks. On the day Bury were thrown out, Bolton got issued with it. The takeover was completed within 24 hours of receiving that. Oh and wait till loads of games are cancelled in Dec/Jan. It is going to be one of the worst winters ever according to reports i have read.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 6, 2019 12:32:51 GMT
Going back to the subject of the OP.
I think the ones in a box seat with games in hand And in form are Donny. P’boro are almost in a false position looking at their games played. The teams that are within 1-3 points of the 3-6 will continue to fluctuate because everyone is capable of beating anyone and I think we are about where we should expect to be. Especially after last year. A fit JCH and a good addition or 2 in January should see us stay in the mix.
I really do think it’s going to be a case of points on the board rather than games in hand that will count as a motivation this year because there are no gimmes to be had.
Everyone is beating everyone else. As an example I would use Plymouth last year, who very much had it in their hands to stay up, but went down because they couldn’t beat anyone despite their games in hand. The pressure of people scoring points around them added to the pressure.
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Post by montygas on Nov 6, 2019 12:38:48 GMT
Rovers specific trivia now that we've played the period without Clarke-Harris who is expected to return for next league game (Sunder-land). We've now got a pretty good idea on what we can expect from results without him or a similar player.
MK Dons 1-0 Win (home) Doncaster Rovers 2-0 loss (away) Bolton 2-0 loss (home) Portsmouth 2-2 draw (home) Rochdale 2-1 win (away)
Davies, Rodman, Adeboyejo, 2 x Own goals from opposition.
7/15 points.
not great, not awful, I for one was expecting worse.
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Post by Fetch on Nov 6, 2019 13:17:13 GMT
League One is getting better and better every year now. Starting to see money trickling down from the Championship, and quality players being forced down to this level due to the increase in standards in the Championship too. Great to be involved in a competitive league where anyone can beat anyone, definitely more exciting to be a part of imo.
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Post by baggins on Nov 6, 2019 13:33:53 GMT
League One is getting better and better every year now. Starting to see money trickling down from the Championship, and quality players being forced down to this level due to the increase in standards in the Championship too. Great to be involved in a competitive league where anyone can beat anyone, definitely more exciting to be a part of imo. How is money trickling down from the Championship? Genuine question.
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Post by craggo on Nov 6, 2019 13:49:23 GMT
League One is getting better and better every year now. Starting to see money trickling down from the Championship, and quality players being forced down to this level due to the increase in standards in the Championship too. Great to be involved in a competitive league where anyone can beat anyone, definitely more exciting to be a part of imo. How is money trickling down from the Championship? Genuine question. I am not sure what the poster is meaning myself. Maybe on the lines of fees and wages at the top end of the Championship are almost PL like. They are playing a level below what they could. And therefore it is having a knock-on effect to our division. On top of that we have Sunderland in our division. Who would have thought that ?. Oh and we are not having any tv money coming down. I am certain of that.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 6, 2019 13:50:36 GMT
League One is getting better and better every year now. Starting to see money trickling down from the Championship, and quality players being forced down to this level due to the increase in standards in the Championship too. Great to be involved in a competitive league where anyone can beat anyone, definitely more exciting to be a part of imo. It is competitive but not sure about the quality. Not sure money is trickling down unless you know more than me, which is not difficult! Money coming into Sunderland recently and Pompey have Eisner though he doesn’t like spending it according to Pompey fans. Perhaps clubs are spending more money but not sure that’s the same as money “trickling down.” Perhaps debts are rising. But you are right, it is much better to be involved in this league at the moment at the middle/top part as opposed to the bottom part. But it could change, fingers crossed it doesn’t. 😉 UTG!
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Post by craggo on Nov 6, 2019 13:53:25 GMT
It is harder to predict who will be where in L1 and L2 than it is in the other 2 divs. Maybe that says something.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 6, 2019 13:55:53 GMT
I think what he means is that there are players classed as championship players drop into L1 on loan to get game time and as a result championship clubs are happy for them to go and get some of their wages covered.
Players perhaps also prefer a permanent pay cut and drop to play regular football in the hope a decent season sees them get a move back.
There are some serious wages and transfer fees being paid in this league now.
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