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Jan 20, 2020 18:24:02 GMT
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Post by madgas on Jan 20, 2020 18:24:02 GMT
In fairness when he came he was great.
Then everyone had a car crash 6 months under Clarke and he wasnt a GC player.
I've always thought he could be a decent player for us. Top earner = still a stretch.
This said- I'm not a fan of this sort of thing getting out. It's the general expectation that wages in any career are private.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 20, 2020 18:41:03 GMT
Him Nicho and Payne what a huge waste of money, not DC s finest signings FFS.
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Jan 20, 2020 18:43:24 GMT
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jan 20, 2020 18:43:24 GMT
They went from extreme to the other after the Taylor debacle, the f**king snake is still biting us! The Taylor problem was again down to DC, he should have given him a 2/3 year deal after promotion from the conference but chose to give him a year to keep him hungry, after that he had us over a barrel I reckon Taylor gave the club an ultimatum. Stay, but if I get goals,I've put myself in the shop window and the club should be in a decent league position. I'll be off with a crap release fee. Where he went and the unknown release fee knowledge is a separate issue. Could we have afforded 2/3 years and did he even want it?
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Jan 20, 2020 18:57:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 18:57:58 GMT
The Taylor problem was again down to DC, he should have given him a 2/3 year deal after promotion from the conference but chose to give him a year to keep him hungry, after that he had us over a barrel I reckon Taylor gave the club an ultimatum. Stay, but if I get goals,I've put myself in the shop window and the club should be in a decent league position. I'll be off with a crap release fee. Where he went and the unknown release fee knowledge is a separate issue. Could we have afforded 2/3 years and did he even want it? We could have 100% gave him a 2/3 year deal after the national league season, after league two we couldn’t
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Jan 20, 2020 19:07:45 GMT
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 20, 2020 19:07:45 GMT
DC moved away from signing journeymen on long contracts and it worked for the first couple of years. But then he should have been offering the better players such as Taylor, Bodin etc longer contracts. Then he goes and signs Bennet on a three and a half year deal! Unbelievable!
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 20, 2020 19:09:36 GMT
Most of us didn't know the ins and outs of the contract. Also not our job to scout these players, although Pompey fans seemed pretty accurate with their opinion, so it goes to show we didn't do our homework IMO. I don't think we would have signed him if Tommy W was here at the time. We signed Hare & Little on TW's watch, take away his ex-Coventry mates, the players GC directly signed as favours from other managers, and his only real successes have been the two goalies and even one of them may not play again this season. Our recruitment since we got promoted to L1 has been the pits apart from the ex-Coventry players, ignoring those 3 and probably only Upson and Craig are successes of the outfield players we've signed. So Ogogo,Davies & Clarke Harris aren't successes because they came from Coventry and anyone that gets injured is immediately discounted as well ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 19:17:31 GMT
We signed Hare & Little on TW's watch, take away his ex-Coventry mates, the players GC directly signed as favours from other managers, and his only real successes have been the two goalies and even one of them may not play again this season. Our recruitment since we got promoted to L1 has been the pits apart from the ex-Coventry players, ignoring those 3 and probably only Upson and Craig are successes of the outfield players we've signed. So Ogogo,Davies & Clarke Harris aren't successes because they came from Coventry and anyone that gets injured is immediately discounted as well ? But would we have signed those 3 if they weren't previously known to TW? Even Barrett has said he played with JCH at Coventry and Ginnelly is a mate of Leahy's, it's hard to find one present 1st team player TW has actually gone out and scouted he's had no previous contact with, probably JVS is the extent of that and it makes you wonder who actually watched him play in Holland.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 19:20:21 GMT
Bristol Post are claiming contract talks with JCH have stalled as he's demanding to be our top wage earner but we can't offer him that until Bennett &/or Nichols are off the budget. Although it's usual at Rovers for a player to start playing cr@p before he's even signed a new contract!
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 20, 2020 19:30:02 GMT
So Ogogo,Davies & Clarke Harris aren't successes because they came from Coventry and anyone that gets injured is immediately discounted as well ? But would we have signed those 3 if they weren't previously known to TW? Even Barrett has said he played with JCH at Coventry and Ginnelly is a mate of Leahy's, it's hard to find one present 1st team player TW has actually gone out and scouted he's had no previous contact with, probably JVS is the extent of that and it makes you wonder who actually watched him play in Holland. Isn't that what most managers or heads of recruitment do though ? It stands to reason that people will know more about certain clubs & players than others. Personally I couldn't care less where TW gets the players from all I'm interested in is how they do once they sign
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jan 20, 2020 21:10:28 GMT
Was that the one he spent watching you shower?
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 21, 2020 7:08:15 GMT
Bristol Post are claiming contract talks with JCH have stalled as he's demanding to be our top wage earner but we can't offer him that until Bennett &/or Nichols are off the budget. Although it's usual at Rovers for a player to start playing cr@p before he's even signed a new contract! If true we need to be really careful here Can't be bullied into offering something that will hamper future budgets Tell him if he pulls his finger out of his backside and stops waving his hands in the air we will sit down in the summer and negotiate. On current form I'm not sure I'd even pick him.
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Jan 21, 2020 7:59:59 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jan 21, 2020 7:59:59 GMT
Bristol Post are claiming contract talks with JCH have stalled as he's demanding to be our top wage earner but we can't offer him that until Bennett &/or Nichols are off the budget. Although it's usual at Rovers for a player to start playing cr@p before he's even signed a new contract! If true we need to be really careful here Can't be bullied into offering something that will hamper future budgets Tell him if he pulls his finger out of his backside and stops waving his hands in the air we will sit down in the summer and negotiate. On current form I'm not sure I'd even pick him. Who would you pick instead?
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Jan 21, 2020 8:40:12 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 21, 2020 8:40:12 GMT
Bristol Post are claiming contract talks with JCH have stalled as he's demanding to be our top wage earner but we can't offer him that until Bennett &/or Nichols are off the budget. Although it's usual at Rovers for a player to start playing cr@p before he's even signed a new contract! If true we need to be really careful here Can't be bullied into offering something that will hamper future budgets Tell him if he pulls his finger out of his backside and stops waving his hands in the air we will sit down in the summer and negotiate. On current form I'm not sure I'd even pick him. Agreed. Way he’s playing right now I’d sell him on whilst we can but I certainly wouldn’t put all our eggs in one basket and make him the highest paid player That said part of it could be frustration at not being the top dog wage bills wise.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 21, 2020 9:25:11 GMT
If true we need to be really careful here Can't be bullied into offering something that will hamper future budgets Tell him if he pulls his finger out of his backside and stops waving his hands in the air we will sit down in the summer and negotiate. On current form I'm not sure I'd even pick him. Who would you pick instead? Adeboyejo whilst he's still at the club, although is JCH just playing poorly to make a point/get a move, his miss on Saturday was a shocker.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 21, 2020 9:28:34 GMT
If true we need to be really careful here Can't be bullied into offering something that will hamper future budgets Tell him if he pulls his finger out of his backside and stops waving his hands in the air we will sit down in the summer and negotiate. On current form I'm not sure I'd even pick him. Who would you pick instead? sir Tom Nichols of course !
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Post by pirate on Jan 21, 2020 9:29:34 GMT
Who would you pick instead? Adeboyejo whilst he's still at the club, although is JCH just playing poorly to make a point/get a move, his miss on Saturday was a shocker. At least he is still getting into positions to miss, the time to really worry is when he stops getting into those positions. Adeboyejo hasn't done anything of note here and his appearance against Stevenage was terrible. He should be sent back and then use the wage from him and Tyler Smith to bring in another striker.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 21, 2020 9:34:46 GMT
Adeboyejo whilst he's still at the club, although is JCH just playing poorly to make a point/get a move, his miss on Saturday was a shocker. At least he is still getting into positions to miss, the time to really worry is when he stops getting into those positions. Adeboyejo hasn't done anything of note here and his appearance against Stevenage was terrible. He should be sent back and then use the wage from him and Tyler Smith to bring in another striker. Dont see why that hasn't been done, if Benno does not find a club we need to freeze him out, not his fault we gave him a stupid contract, but just not worth the wages, and another 16 months on the books FFS.
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Post by theduke on Jan 21, 2020 16:00:50 GMT
Him Nicho and Payne what a huge waste of money, not DC s finest signings FFS. That's why he paid for it with his job.
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Post by theduke on Jan 21, 2020 16:05:30 GMT
DC moved away from signing journeymen on long contracts and it worked for the first couple of years. But then he should have been offering the better players such as Taylor, Bodin etc longer contracts. Then he goes and signs Bennet on a three and a half year deal! Unbelievable! Did DC handle the contracts? I imagine it was the club that set the policy of dishing out short-term contracts given the absolute farce they got themselves into in the years previous. It made sense at the time, but the club were too slow to react once it became clear that we had real assets again which fetch a good price on the marker. It's still pretty unbelievable that Taylor, Bodin and Lockyer only brought back 800k between them given they all ended up in the Championship. We should have been looking at 5m combined.
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Jan 21, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
DC moved away from signing journeymen on long contracts and it worked for the first couple of years. But then he should have been offering the better players such as Taylor, Bodin etc longer contracts. Then he goes and signs Bennet on a three and a half year deal! Unbelievable! Did DC handle the contracts? I imagine it was the club that set the policy of dishing out short-term contracts given the absolute farce they got themselves into in the years previous. It made sense at the time, but the club were too slow to react once it became clear that we had real assets again which fetch a good price on the marker. It's still pretty unbelievable that Taylor, Bodin and Lockyer only brought back 800k between them given they all ended up in the Championship. We should have been looking at 5m combined. Yes he did, he has publicly said before that he liked the job here as he was left to get on with the job. He also told myself and friends at an event before he only gave Taylor a year after the conference season to keep him hungry.
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