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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jan 25, 2020 23:41:26 GMT
My decision not to go was vindicated! How would you know that if you didn't go?
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Post by southmeadgas on Jan 26, 2020 6:45:52 GMT
See I would keep JCH but think its inevitable that he will go, then we need to sign 3 decent strikers, I remember the last home games under GC that teams missed lots of chances, and we rode our luck a bit, that's what's great about football we all have different views, all I know it was not good to watch. Listening to Ben reminds me of Brendan Rodgers hope he turns us around like Brendan did to Leicester. We best Ipswich in GC's last game who are now table toppers and would have gone second if we'd beaten Wimbledon, it's total b0ll0cks to start dishing GC's side, now we just have to sit and watch games where we can't even manage one shot on target from open play. Meanwhile Holloway has got something like 3 wins out of 4 at previously struggling Grimsby. I think there's more to being a good manager than sounding like one!! Holloway's record at Grimsby is W1 D1 L2
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 26, 2020 8:01:24 GMT
"Holloway's record at Grimsby is W1..."
And who was that against?! 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 8:33:54 GMT
My decision not to go was vindicated! How would you know that if you didn't go? Have you not heard of IF and VPN?
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 26, 2020 9:12:53 GMT
i for one hope Ben does persevere with the recent policy of giving youngsters a chance and including them in squad, bit concerned with all the recent signings a couple of youngsters have lost there place on bench, for all the reasons already given by posters plenty of positives from yesterday!
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 26, 2020 10:08:08 GMT
I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction, ok far from the improvement we want, but still a start towards improvement.
When you get in a rut you go back to getting the basics right and build from the back. Pleased to see a return to a back four and we got the clean sheet.
If we can concentrate on consolidating that work in the next couple of games, then I expect to see more building of how we go forward and hopefully more expansive football.
In all honesty, even in the play off zone I thought we were fortunate to be there and playing the way we were was never going to have longevity and certainly would never work a division higher. Coughlan was right, he had taken us as far as he could, I think he was being honest.
If we are to be successful we have to do it playing the right way otherwise it is just not sustainable.
I have a suspicion and hope that Garner is on the right track. Turn up and back him..
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Post by Slide away on Jan 26, 2020 10:19:54 GMT
I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction, ok far from the improvement we want, but still a start towards improvement. When you get in a rut you go back to getting the basics right and build from the back. Pleased to see a return to a back four and we got the clean sheet. If we can concentrate on consolidating that work in the next couple of games, then I expect to see more building of how we go forward and hopefully more expansive football. In all honesty, even in the play off zone I thought we were fortunate to be there and playing the way we were was never going to have longevity and certainly would never work a division higher. Coughlan was right, he had taken us as far as he could, I think he was being honest. If we are to be successful we have to do it playing the right way otherwise it is just not sustainable. I have a suspicion and hope that Garner is on the right track. Turn up and back him.. "No longevity", "not sustainable"...we were top of the form table for 2019? It wasnt pretty at times but it was effective.
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 26, 2020 11:12:06 GMT
I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction, ok far from the improvement we want, but still a start towards improvement. When you get in a rut you go back to getting the basics right and build from the back. Pleased to see a return to a back four and we got the clean sheet. If we can concentrate on consolidating that work in the next couple of games, then I expect to see more building of how we go forward and hopefully more expansive football. In all honesty, even in the play off zone I thought we were fortunate to be there and playing the way we were was never going to have longevity and certainly would never work a division higher. Coughlan was right, he had taken us as far as he could, I think he was being honest. If we are to be successful we have to do it playing the right way otherwise it is just not sustainable. I have a suspicion and hope that Garner is on the right track. Turn up and back him.. "No longevity", "not sustainable"...we were top of the form table for 2019? It wasnt pretty at times but it was effective. And it didn’t last. Cracks were appearing before Coughlan left. Towards the end, sometimes we got lucky, sometimes we got found out. It was not sustainable. If you want promotion then you have to do it playing football that will keep you up there when you get there, otherwise it’s false dawn a big blow to the club.
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Post by aghast on Jan 26, 2020 11:29:59 GMT
"No longevity", "not sustainable"...we were top of the form table for 2019? It wasnt pretty at times but it was effective. And it didn’t last. Cracks were appearing before Coughlan left. Towards the end, sometimes we got lucky, sometimes we got found out. It was not sustainable. If you want promotion then you have to do it playing football that will keep you up there when you get there, otherwise it’s false dawn a big blow to the club. I'm not sure how you can say we got lucky and found out towards the end of GC's time. The results were getting better and better, as was our league position. Sustainable? Maybe not, but we'll never know.
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Post by Slide away on Jan 26, 2020 12:06:07 GMT
"No longevity", "not sustainable"...we were top of the form table for 2019? It wasnt pretty at times but it was effective. And it didn’t last. Cracks were appearing before Coughlan left. Towards the end, sometimes we got lucky, sometimes we got found out. It was not sustainable. If you want promotion then you have to do it playing football that will keep you up there when you get there, otherwise it’s false dawn a big blow to the club. How do you get to the conclusion it didnt last, GCs last game we beat Ipswich away to go 4th, boxing day we went 1 nil up to go second at that point before the shambles in the second half which has pretty much stayed since.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jan 26, 2020 12:41:05 GMT
How would you know that if you didn't go? Have you not heard of IF and VPN? Are they a progrock band?
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 26, 2020 12:51:05 GMT
And it didn’t last. Cracks were appearing before Coughlan left. Towards the end, sometimes we got lucky, sometimes we got found out. It was not sustainable. If you want promotion then you have to do it playing football that will keep you up there when you get there, otherwise it’s false dawn a big blow to the club. How do you get to the conclusion it didnt last, GCs last game we beat Ipswich away to go 4th, boxing day we went 1 nil up to go second at that point before the shambles in the second half which has pretty much stayed since. Because you could see opposition teams figuring it out and it becoming less and less effective, we were heading towards the bubble bursting and GC knew he couldn't take it further and said so. I admire him for his honesty.
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Post by cj on Jan 26, 2020 17:41:36 GMT
THD got a full 90 mins TD got a full 90 mins Clean sheet on debut for JB Looked solid at the back using the new back 4 formation The performance overall was better than previous games New signings beginnig gel with existing players Ogogo back Didn't lose Could have won if the penalty was converted
Overall, for me, there is something to build on from here. Next up is Bolton, a very good chance to end our goal drought and get BG his first win.
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Post by lpgas on Jan 26, 2020 18:44:35 GMT
Biggest positive after the whistle? It wasn't raining
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 22:58:36 GMT
I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction, ok far from the improvement we want, but still a start towards improvement. When you get in a rut you go back to getting the basics right and build from the back. Pleased to see a return to a back four and we got the clean sheet. If we can concentrate on consolidating that work in the next couple of games, then I expect to see more building of how we go forward and hopefully more expansive football. In all honesty, even in the play off zone I thought we were fortunate to be there and playing the way we were was never going to have longevity and certainly would never work a division higher. Coughlan was right, he had taken us as far as he could, I think he was being honest. If we are to be successful we have to do it playing the right way otherwise it is just not sustainable. I have a suspicion and hope that Garner is on the right track. Turn up and back him.. The "coughlan method" worked perfectly well higher up the ladder for numerous managers including warnock,allardyce and pulis. Its fine to dislike that method but nonsense to say it "would never work higher".
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 27, 2020 7:44:23 GMT
I thought yesterday was a step in the right direction, ok far from the improvement we want, but still a start towards improvement. When you get in a rut you go back to getting the basics right and build from the back. Pleased to see a return to a back four and we got the clean sheet. If we can concentrate on consolidating that work in the next couple of games, then I expect to see more building of how we go forward and hopefully more expansive football. In all honesty, even in the play off zone I thought we were fortunate to be there and playing the way we were was never going to have longevity and certainly would never work a division higher. Coughlan was right, he had taken us as far as he could, I think he was being honest. If we are to be successful we have to do it playing the right way otherwise it is just not sustainable. I have a suspicion and hope that Garner is on the right track. Turn up and back him.. The "coughlan method" worked perfectly well higher up the ladder for numerous managers including warnock,allardyce and pulis. Its fine to dislike that method but nonsense to say it "would never work higher". In your opinion, not mine. It’s naive to list those managers, they may have done it at higher level, but that would have been with players of the likes we would never see at Bristol Rovers. They are also the ilk of manager we would never see here either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 12:28:02 GMT
The "coughlan method" worked perfectly well higher up the ladder for numerous managers including warnock,allardyce and pulis. Its fine to dislike that method but nonsense to say it "would never work higher". In your opinion, not mine. It’s naive to list those managers, they may have done it at higher level, but that would have been with players of the likes we would never see at Bristol Rovers. They are also the ilk of manager we would never see here either. The list of managers who have had success with coughlan type football in lower leagues is much longer but the reason i mentioned the ones higher up was that you clearly stated this style would not work higher up the leagues.
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Post by pirate on Jan 27, 2020 12:49:32 GMT
The "coughlan method" worked perfectly well higher up the ladder for numerous managers including warnock,allardyce and pulis. Its fine to dislike that method but nonsense to say it "would never work higher". In your opinion, not mine. It’s naive to list those managers, they may have done it at higher level, but that would have been with players of the likes we would never see at Bristol Rovers. They are also the ilk of manager we would never see here either. You do realise Warnock has managed the likes of Gainsborough Trinity, Burton Albion, Scarborough, Notts County, Torquay United, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham, Bury and recently said about his next role: "I might have to go to League Two or something like that, but why not? It doesn't bother me what division I am managing in," he added in an interview with BBC Radio Wales breakfast.
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Post by lpgas on Jan 27, 2020 17:50:27 GMT
In your opinion, not mine. It’s naive to list those managers, they may have done it at higher level, but that would have been with players of the likes we would never see at Bristol Rovers. They are also the ilk of manager we would never see here either. You do realise Warnock has managed the likes of Gainsborough Trinity, Burton Albion, Scarborough, Notts County, Torquay United, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham, Bury and recently said about his next role: "I might have to go to League Two or something like that, but why not? It doesn't bother me what division I am managing in," he added in an interview with BBC Radio Wales breakfast. I would have him at the Mem tomorrow
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 27, 2020 18:54:38 GMT
In your opinion, not mine. It’s naive to list those managers, they may have done it at higher level, but that would have been with players of the likes we would never see at Bristol Rovers. They are also the ilk of manager we would never see here either. You do realise Warnock has managed the likes of Gainsborough Trinity, Burton Albion, Scarborough, Notts County, Torquay United, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham, Bury and recently said about his next role: "I might have to go to League Two or something like that, but why not? It doesn't bother me what division I am managing in," he added in an interview with BBC Radio Wales breakfast. I haven't lived on another planet during Colin's career!
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