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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 6, 2020 13:57:19 GMT
Might be good at his job for all I know but I find his lack of any enthusiasm and passion really demoralising. He has all the charisma of over-cooked cabbage. Can’t tell if you’re discussing BG or MS but it could apply to either of them.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 7, 2020 8:57:25 GMT
It just takes reading of all the business documents available of the parties involved. It seems to me that the ALQ’s have realised that other parties involved in the potential takeover didn’t necessarily have the clubs long term future at heart. Point 1 - can you share the business documents please? Point 2 - That's an interesting assumption to come to. How did you get there? I'd personally have thought if any deal was off, its because Total Produce want more money than the buyers are currently offering. I very much doubt Wael suddenly had a change of heart and told them to call the deal off because he doesn't feel they have the clubs long term future at heart. 1. On here no, it would take too long. It’s an opinion formed by myself and was stated on the Fruit Bat thread at the time . 2. Think you’re right about us being priced out of the deal in a third party way. For the figures to work for the developers trying to get their hands n the Mem we would set back years in terms of being tenants.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 7, 2020 17:16:42 GMT
Don't know if Wael ever reads this forum or if anyone is a friend of his on facebook or whatever but the owner needs to be told that Starnes' behaviour is P*ssing people off almost as much as the dire football being served up. Both are costing him money as fans stay away. If he knew it won't change a thing. It's rotten.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 7, 2020 17:22:33 GMT
I met with Tom Gorringe at his request about 2 years ago just to touch base. I've only spoken to him once since when he provided a prize for the FFSC draw. There was no desire on either side to have or allow any kind of official engagement here. I explained at the time that ANYONE can make an account and post here but that no special treatment would be given. As far as I'm concerned that remains the case. I think its actually a positive that that the club dont use this forum and that we continue to be fully impartial, though I do understand we could benefit from some official input from time to time! They don't see us as fans. To them, we are just customer's to be milked. At last someone realises. I can 100% guarantee that 'behind the scenes' no-one genuinely cares about GASHEADS and it is just a job for them. They just do not care and have no affiliation for us. Simple. We are an economic commodity and they have made very very damaging medium term and long term decisions based on this belief.
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 7, 2020 17:25:35 GMT
They don't see us as fans. To them, we are just customer's to be milked. At last someone realises. I can 100% guarantee that 'behind the scenes' no-one genuinely cares about GASHEADS and it is just a job for them. They just do not care and have no affiliation for us. Simple. We are an economic commodity and they have made very very damaging medium term and long term decisions based on this belief. Well I think the economic commodity is going to disappear off the shelf pdq.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 7, 2020 17:33:27 GMT
Don't know if Wael ever reads this forum or if anyone is a friend of his on facebook or whatever but the owner needs to be told that Starnes' behaviour is P*ssing people off almost as much as the dire football being served up. Both are costing him money as fans stay away. This sort of thing is watering people off more than the football. And it watered the last 2 managers off too. We are f**king directionless from top to bottom. I've defended Wael a lot, but his leadership is water poor on every level and he needs to buck his ideas up pretty quickly. Genuine question... Why did you defend Wael "a lot" when all the evidence, admittedly some of it given on here unofficially yet not believed, was to the contrary? To be clear, I'm not saying anyone should abuse him or says he's rubbish, but to me the evidence has been very clear for about three years. It was a chance purchase without the backing, character or experience to make it a success. Finally, a BTW. I only saw the Starnes Q&A today, by complete accident, as I've been out of the loop for months now. Disingenuous is not a strong enough word to use. I had a personal run-in with Hamer many years ago, but at least he was an honest man in many ways and was an old fashioned 'fan' at heart who supported numerous supporter led initiatives.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 7, 2020 17:49:19 GMT
This sort of thing is watering people off more than the football. And it watered the last 2 managers off too. We are f**king directionless from top to bottom. I've defended Wael a lot, but his leadership is water poor on every level and he needs to buck his ideas up pretty quickly. Genuine question... Why did you defend Wael "a lot" when all the evidence, admittedly some of it given on here unofficially yet not believed, was to the contrary? To be clear, I'm not saying anyone should abuse him or says he's rubbish, but to me the evidence has been very clear for about three years. It was a chance purchase without the backing, character or experience to make it a success. Finally, a BTW. I only saw the Starnes Q&A today, by complete accident, as I've been out of the loop for months now. Disingenuous is not a strong enough word to use. I had a personal run-in with Hamer many years ago, but at least he was an honest man in many ways and was an old fashioned 'fan' at heart who supported numerous supporter led initiatives. Dont mistake my displeasure at the owners with any support of Hamer/Masters. They are a worse alternative. I dont like or trust Hamer in the slightest.
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Post by wsmjohn on Mar 7, 2020 17:51:00 GMT
Starnes needs to go, employing Gardner on a two half year contract. We are paying for someone to destroy our club. They have no affiliation to our club, it's just a job! Employ someone who is a Gashead.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 7, 2020 17:53:50 GMT
Genuine question... Why did you defend Wael "a lot" when all the evidence, admittedly some of it given on here unofficially yet not believed, was to the contrary? To be clear, I'm not saying anyone should abuse him or says he's rubbish, but to me the evidence has been very clear for about three years. It was a chance purchase without the backing, character or experience to make it a success. Finally, a BTW. I only saw the Starnes Q&A today, by complete accident, as I've been out of the loop for months now. Disingenuous is not a strong enough word to use. I had a personal run-in with Hamer many years ago, but at least he was an honest man in many ways and was an old fashioned 'fan' at heart who supported numerous supporter led initiatives. Dont mistake my displeasure at the owners with any support of Hamer/Masters. They are a worse alternative. I dont like or trust Hamer in the slightest. Sorry I've now accidentally confused everything... I tacked that on just in case I was accused of commenting after yet another defeat, rather than several days ago.
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