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Post by Gassy on Mar 5, 2020 10:19:29 GMT
When Garner was appointed I jokingly said to Pirate that I hold him fully responsible for Garner's actions/results. Clearly it was a joke.
I don't really get the banging on about it, so much. It's fine as a joke, but it's not like Pirate personally hired him and if it wasn't for Pirate, he wouldn't have got the job ffs.
Most on here were delighted when Garner was appointed, should we go back to the thread when he was appointed to point at names and say "well you were happy he was appointed" - which btw, the people who were happy, were happy for the same reason Pirate suggested Garner in the first place!
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 5, 2020 10:52:10 GMT
When Garner was appointed I jokingly said to Pirate that I hold him fully responsible for Garner's actions/results. Clearly it was a joke. I don't really get the banging on about it, so much. It's fine as a joke, but it's not like Pirate personally hired him and if it wasn't for Pirate, he wouldn't have got the job ffs. Most on here were delighted when Garner was appointed, should we go back to the thread when he was appointed to point at names and say "well you were happy he was appointed" - which btw, the people who were happy, were happy for the same reason Pirate suggested Garner in the first place! Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Pleased to confirm I was always a Garnersceptic, never managed before, looked like Ian Cathro v2.0, complete flip-flop of an appointment and stank of the board trying to look like clever clogs.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 5, 2020 12:15:49 GMT
Said at the time the guy is a gamble and it would go horrifically wrong or horrifically right - id hoped for the latter but expected the former and within matches it was clear we were on this trajectory. Time to call the experiment to an end.
Giving someone proven time is different from giving someone with zero experience (no Ben the Palace under 23s isn’t the same) time to bed in. You give someone the chance to blood themselves as an assistant or as youth manager. He’s had long enough and demonstrated nothing but negatives I’m afraid.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Mar 5, 2020 12:25:01 GMT
Whilst this is rather tiresome and I am loathed to get involved... Very clearly tipping someone for a job 1 year ago is not the same as tipping them in the last month or two.
Circumstances change, people change etc.
Complete nonsense to quote this chap from over a year ago and then use said quote for ridicule.
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 5, 2020 19:43:16 GMT
Don't know how many times I have to say it before it sinks in, but it wasn't my tip this time around actually. gaschat.co.uk/post/574042[Reply « Prev1234..28Next » pirate Avatar pirate Gas ********** Dec 16, 2018 at 1:44am nortongashead, Antonio Fargas, and 12 more like this Quote likePost Options I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I think Ben Garner should get the managers job here if he wants it. Yesterday he was 16/1 with certain bookmakers. As Tony Pulis has said of him in the past: “Ben has it in him to one day step into the manager’s role. He’s got the potential.” He has worked at close quarters with some good people like Holloway, Pulis, Warnock, Pardew, Venables, Lennie Lawrence and Gerry Francis, will have surely built up a good contact list and with his reputation in the game managers will be willing to send loan players to us as they know they will be entering a good working environment and receive top class coaching. He helped bring through talents such as Victor Moses, Nathaniel Clyne, Wilfried Zaha, Sean Scannell and Jonny Williams at Crystal Palace. He has gone on to coach 200 games at the senior level – most of them in the Premier League. During 2012/2013 season he was promoted to Crystal Palace First Team Coach under then manager Ian Holloway. On 27 May 2013 Crystal Palace were promoted to the Premier League after beating Watford 1-0 AET at Wembley in the Championship Play-Off Final. Garner remained as First Team Coach in the 2013/2014 season when Tony Pulis was appointed as Ian Holloway’s successor on 23 November 2013. Crystal Palace retained their Premier League status for the first time in the club’s history finishing in 11th place and Pulis won the LMA Manager of the Year award. Has the UEFA PRO licence and the LMA Diploma in Management, as well as a having a degree in sports science and a diploma in neuro-linguistic programming, he has learned Spanish. He was linked with the Nottingham Forest and Bradford City jobs and I think he could prove a good short and long term appointment for us. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garner www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/ex-palace-coach-garner-has-the-know-how-to-manage-at-the-highest-level/footballcoaching.co.nz/ben-garner-previous-premier-league-first-team-coach-uk/ the72.co.uk/115156/ben-garner-bradford-citys-potential-new-manager/
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 5, 2020 19:47:13 GMT
I have it on good authority PT was actually interviewed for the job when Coughlan left...However, He was not impressed with the lack of ambition shown by the Club. From who? Name your source, otherwise it's bullshit just like the rest of the people who also "have it on good authority". Im sure there's "no reason for them to lie" etc. 😂
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 5, 2020 19:48:25 GMT
I have it on good authority PT was actually interviewed for the job when Coughlan left...However, He was not impressed with the lack of ambition shown by the Club. Not true. Ok mate...you know better than me..!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 5, 2020 22:59:53 GMT
From who? Name your source, otherwise it's bullshit just like the rest of the people who also "have it on good authority". Im sure there's "no reason for them to lie" etc. 😂 The fact you can't answer it suggests its more bullshit. Prove otherwise.
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Post by theduke on Mar 6, 2020 15:36:38 GMT
Ok mate...you know better than me..! Yeah, I do thanks. What are you even on about? Ben Garner was ready and waiting while Coughlan figured out his departure. Do you genuinely believe that the board didn't know he was treading water, waiting for the right offer to move back closer to his family? He almost left in the summer, though I'm sure you already knew that. As for Paul Trollope. Not an interview, not even a phone call. Nothing.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 6, 2020 15:38:48 GMT
Ok mate...you know better than me..! Yeah, I do thanks. What are you even on about? Ben Garner was ready and waiting while Coughlan figured out his departure. Do you genuinely believe that the board didn't know he was treading water, waiting for the right offer to move back closer to his family? He almost left in the summer, though I'm sure you already knew that. As for Paul Trollope. Not an interview, not even a phone call. Nothing. Pretty sure PT = Paul Tisdale in the original post
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 6, 2020 15:39:21 GMT
Exactly garner had the tracksuit with his initials on it well before gc left
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Post by theduke on Mar 6, 2020 17:24:40 GMT
Yeah, I do thanks. What are you even on about? Ben Garner was ready and waiting while Coughlan figured out his departure. Do you genuinely believe that the board didn't know he was treading water, waiting for the right offer to move back closer to his family? He almost left in the summer, though I'm sure you already knew that. As for Paul Trollope. Not an interview, not even a phone call. Nothing. Pretty sure PT = Paul Tisdale in the original post Hahaha, my bad. Tisdale wasn't considered either mind. Load of rubbish claiming he had an interview. He didn't even get a phone call back!
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 6, 2020 19:33:06 GMT
Ok mate...you know better than me..! Yeah, I do thanks. What are you even on about? Ben Garner was ready and waiting while Coughlan figured out his departure. Do you genuinely believe that the board didn't know he was treading water, waiting for the right offer to move back closer to his family? He almost left in the summer, though I'm sure you already knew that. As for Paul Trollope. Not an interview, not even a phone call. Nothing. 😂 You didn’t even get his name right..! I was talking about Tisdale..!! Get your fact right first before jumping in with both feet..!!
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 6, 2020 19:39:21 GMT
The fact you can't answer it suggests its more bullshit. Prove otherwise. Prove it....??!! What do want me to do....get him to give you a quick call.? I’m repeating what I was told by a respectable ex pro I’ve known for years ..if you think it’s bullshit that’s up to you..
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Post by Gassy on Mar 6, 2020 20:06:38 GMT
The fact you can't answer it suggests its more bullshit. Prove otherwise. Prove it....??!! What do want me to do....get him to give you a quick call.? I’m repeating what I was told by a respectable ex pro I’ve known for years ..if you think it’s bullshit that’s up to you.. Name your source mate. Surely they have nothing to hide? If they’re giving our true information, why hide it?
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 6, 2020 20:19:56 GMT
Prove it....??!! What do want me to do....get him to give you a quick call.? I’m repeating what I was told by a respectable ex pro I’ve known for years ..if you think it’s bullshit that’s up to you.. Name your source mate. Surely they have nothing to hide? If they’re giving our true information, why hide it? What difference will that make if I name the bloke? He’s a good friend and a genuine bloke I’ve know for ages..I’m not some wind up merchant out to get bites. We were talking about Rovers and how disappointing the current situation is and he mentioned the Tisdale thing...that’s all there is too it.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 6, 2020 23:13:13 GMT
Name your source mate. Surely they have nothing to hide? If they’re giving our true information, why hide it? What difference will that make if I name the bloke? He’s a good friend and a genuine bloke I’ve know for ages..I’m not some wind up merchant out to get bites. We were talking about Rovers and how disappointing the current situation is and he mentioned the Tisdale thing...that’s all there is too it. Because it shows confidence of the source in having their name associated with the story. I'm always sceptical of a rumour, especially one that comes from absolutely no where that slanders the club/owners.
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 7, 2020 9:27:11 GMT
What difference will that make if I name the bloke? He’s a good friend and a genuine bloke I’ve know for ages..I’m not some wind up merchant out to get bites. We were talking about Rovers and how disappointing the current situation is and he mentioned the Tisdale thing...that’s all there is too it. Because it shows confidence of the source in having their name associated with the story. I'm always sceptical of a rumour, especially one that comes from absolutely no where that slanders the club/owners. I wouldn’t have posted it if I didn’t think it was genuine tbf. Unlike some people, I don’t sit on here all day everyday waiting for someone to disagree or argue with. In fact, I haven’t been on for ages and was having five minutes catching up. Saying you’d heard that someone was mentioned for a vacant job is hardly slander or derogatory is it..?
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Post by Gassy on Mar 7, 2020 9:36:12 GMT
Because it shows confidence of the source in having their name associated with the story. I'm always sceptical of a rumour, especially one that comes from absolutely no where that slanders the club/owners. I wouldn’t have posted it if I didn’t think it was genuine tbf. Unlike some people, I don’t sit on here all day everyday waiting for someone to disagree or argue with. In fact, I haven’t been on for ages and was having five minutes catching up. Saying you’d heard that someone was mentioned for a vacant job is hardly slander or derogatory is it..? No mate, you come on here to make up lies and spread rumours. Keep that head held high 👌🏻 If you just said I heard Tisdale was interested, you’d be right. But you didn’t did you? You had to say “was not impressed with the lack of ambition shown by the club” - or do you think that’s somehow not putting the club down?
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 7, 2020 9:48:35 GMT
I wouldn’t have posted it if I didn’t think it was genuine tbf. Unlike some people, I don’t sit on here all day everyday waiting for someone to disagree or argue with. In fact, I haven’t been on for ages and was having five minutes catching up. Saying you’d heard that someone was mentioned for a vacant job is hardly slander or derogatory is it..? No mate, you come on here to make up lies and spread rumours. Keep that head held high 👌🏻 If you just said I heard Tisdale was interested, you’d be right. But you didn’t did you? You had to say “was not impressed with the lack of ambition shown by the club” - or do you think that’s somehow not putting the club down? I said what I’d heard mate and tbqhwy you can’t help but agree with what Tisdale said about lack of ambition....do you really think the Club is showing any ambition going forwards atm.?? Have you watched the Starnes interview this week...? The fans are fed up,the Club is in free fall and something needs to be done urgently to stop it. Have a good weekend and let’s hope we get three points up Southend today...
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