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Post by axegas on Mar 9, 2020 16:37:05 GMT
They could be forgiven for the idea and sticking with him up until perhaps two games ago but from here on in they’re just aggravating supporters who are already very upset that the stadium that they had to just press go on fell through and nothing has materialised since, about the training ground which is over growing. About long term gasheads employed by the club being moved slowly out of the club. I gave them the benefit of the doubt over all these things for many years thinking they were falling by the wayside, and changes being made, because they were for the best of the club. Now I’m starting to wonder if the UWE deal really was that bad, and if those employees really did need to go... I called it the day the UWE deal went tits up- they never had the money to start with. I was laughed at as a fantasist. All of a sudden the idea that they were potless all along doesn’t seem so crazy now does it? They’ve put a lot of money into the club according to Starnes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 16:43:49 GMT
I called it the day the UWE deal went tits up- they never had the money to start with. I was laughed at as a fantasist. All of a sudden the idea that they were potless all along doesn’t seem so crazy now does it? They’ve put a lot of money into the club according to Starnes. “According to Starnes” I’d rather see it in the accounts thanks. And yes, I suppose they have put in some 12 million+, they have enough to keep the club going as a failing concern with it’s main asset used as security (that being the key aspect in the spending) but they obviously aren’t willing to finance a 30 million stadium or even an 8 million training ground with unsecured funds. So I stand by my assertion that while the family holdings may bring in a few quid they never had the sort of spare finance needed and probably never seriously intended building anything. Hence the interest in a club like Gillingham before us, a club they could run cheaply with no real infrastructure needed and relying on trading of players to make a profit. I’d be very very very interested to hear UWE’s side of the story.
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Post by axegas on Mar 9, 2020 16:58:02 GMT
They’ve put a lot of money into the club according to Starnes. “According to Starnes” I’d rather see it in the accounts thanks. And yes, I suppose they have put in some 12 million+, they have enough to keep the club going as a failing concern with it’s main asset used as security (that being the key aspect in the spending) but they obviously aren’t willing to finance a 30 million stadium or even an 8 million training ground with unsecured funds. So I stand by my assertion that while the family holdings may bring in a few quid they never had the sort of spare finance needed and probably never seriously intended building anything. Hence the interest in a club like Gillingham before us, a club they could run cheaply with no real infrastructure needed and relying on trading of players to make a profit. I’d be very very very interested to hear UWE’s side of the story. Wasn’t intending for that to be pro owner or anything, just playing the devils advocate and reminding you on what Starnes previously said. I’ll be even more the devils advocate here and remind you that they’ve previously said that the finance is in place for a new stadium should plans ever progress. As much as I don’t really think that we’ll make significant progress under the al Qadi’s and as much as I would want them to sell up if there was an opportunity to sell to a party that could, I think on the whole, we could of done a lot worse ownership wise when you look at the state of certain other clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 17:08:56 GMT
“According to Starnes” I’d rather see it in the accounts thanks. And yes, I suppose they have put in some 12 million+, they have enough to keep the club going as a failing concern with it’s main asset used as security (that being the key aspect in the spending) but they obviously aren’t willing to finance a 30 million stadium or even an 8 million training ground with unsecured funds. So I stand by my assertion that while the family holdings may bring in a few quid they never had the sort of spare finance needed and probably never seriously intended building anything. Hence the interest in a club like Gillingham before us, a club they could run cheaply with no real infrastructure needed and relying on trading of players to make a profit. I’d be very very very interested to hear UWE’s side of the story. Wasn’t intending for that to be pro owner or anything, just playing the devils advocate and reminding you on what Starnes previously said. I’ll be even more the devils advocate here and remind you that they’ve previously said that the finance is in place for a new stadium should plans ever progress. As much as I don’t really think that we’ll make significant progress under the al Qadi’s and as much as I would want them to sell up if there was an opportunity to sell to a party that could, I think on the whole, we could of done a lot worse ownership wise when you look at the state of certain other clubs. No it wasn’t a pop at you, just that’s my answer to anything the board tell us. Especially Starnes. Sadly things have got so bad that it’s hard to have any kind of belief in anything related to Dwane Sports. Talk is extremely cheap on the stadium front. It’s easy to say “we’ve got the money we just need the land!” When unless they find the land that will never be tested. That fruit market nonsense showed that they aren’t looking that hard because this was a, so-day, 3rd party application. If the board are serious about a stadium they should have been all over that and not a 3rd party. We’ve seen too many consultants come and airy words spoke with little substance to them for me to believe that they will ever build anything. Since day one it’s been nothing but excuses. DC even hinted that he knew they weren’t going to build anything and he was pretty well placed to see what was going on. On the point about we could have done worse, in the beginning yes, but what about now? Installing a manager who is beyond the sack with a remit to lose games hand over fist forever more is a shithead’s wet dream. It’s exactly what a sh** head would do- why buy the club and fold it instantly when you can hire a guy to ruin the club slowly and put the fans through torture? The fact that Garner is still in a job as of today tells me everything I need to know. Wael might once have had interest, but it’s turned out that running a football club is hard and it’s costly and he is burying his head in the sand and letting us slowly die. I’m not sure, at this point, with us losing £65k a week and one win in 18, that we could be run very much worse to be honest.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 9, 2020 20:58:20 GMT
They could be forgiven for the idea and sticking with him up until perhaps two games ago but from here on in they’re just aggravating supporters who are already very upset that the stadium that they had to just press go on fell through and nothing has materialised since, about the training ground which is over growing. About long term gasheads employed by the club being moved slowly out of the club. I gave them the benefit of the doubt over all these things for many years thinking they were falling by the wayside, and changes being made, because they were for the best of the club. Now I’m starting to wonder if the UWE deal really was that bad, and if those employees really did need to go... I called it the day the UWE deal went tits up- they never had the money to start with. I was laughed at as a fantasist. All of a sudden the idea that they were potless all along doesn’t seem so crazy now does it? Just to let you know I also was completely of that way of thinking and I got absolutely lambasted on here that August day for starting a thread that I titled “Fake Sheikhs”. I was sure then that they caused UWE to collapse and the only reason it did collapse is because they didn’t have the means to do it, and what’s more never had! The cowardly way that Wael acted that day and his disappearance ever since makes me even more sure that Wael is fake. Never had the money to build the UWE but strung us all along. Anyone who thinks the money that has been put into the club, mainly wasted on unnecessary infrastructure or fantasy has been a gift, please give your head a wobble. Every penny that ALQs have put in has been by way of a big Equity Release Loan secured against our home! It’s like a lender giving you a roll up mortgage and the lender also deciding what the money he gives you is going to be spent on and when he wants the money back he’ll just sell your home and leave you to your fate. Death probably!
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