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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 11, 2020 15:59:17 GMT
For the record, since our win away to Ipswich we have played about half our games with a back four and half with 3 centre backs. We had a back 3 / 5 at Southend as well, so can we please dispel this myth that last night's result was due to returning to GC's tactics and formation - nonsense! Superb post from start to finish. Hopefully we can take last night's performance and build on it and put a positive string of results together and finish the season on a high. UTG
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Post by madgas on Mar 11, 2020 17:24:48 GMT
I am still the same as before last night, and I think BG is the man for the job. If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up. I'm not sure that's fair. Coughlan's gone. I appreciate the frustration and respect it's not been good. But your point appears to disrespect everyone? Coughlan's team therefore Garner gets no credit as its copying? And anyone can play like Cogs? Personally- I thought JML was superb last night and he was not a Coughlan player. Without him- not sure how far the system got yesterday.
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Post by LJG on Mar 11, 2020 17:27:34 GMT
If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up. I'm not sure that's fair. Coughlan's gone. I appreciate the frustration and respect it's not been good. But your point appears to disrespect everyone? Coughlan's team therefore Garner gets no credit as its copying? And anyone can play like Cogs? Personally- I thought JML was superb last night and he was not a Coughlan player. Without him- not sure how far the system got yesterday. Not really my point. More that all of the tactical periodisation bollocks did more harm than good. It's pretty clear sticking to what was established would have been far more effective and far less damaging. Don't see how anyone could try to deny that.
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Post by romangas on Mar 12, 2020 12:43:13 GMT
2 wins from 20 is where Ben Garner is at right now. Fact. UTG (But not with you Ben).
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 12, 2020 14:43:13 GMT
I'm not sure that's fair. Coughlan's gone. I appreciate the frustration and respect it's not been good. But your point appears to disrespect everyone? Coughlan's team therefore Garner gets no credit as its copying? And anyone can play like Cogs? Personally- I thought JML was superb last night and he was not a Coughlan player. Without him- not sure how far the system got yesterday. Not really my point. More that all of the tactical periodisation bollocks did more harm than good. It's pretty clear sticking to what was established would have been far more effective and far less damaging. Don't see how anyone could try to deny that. Totally agree. If it ain't broke don't fix it. The team that GC was not broke. The same team going into the Sunderland game was a complete shambles.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 12, 2020 16:31:47 GMT
I'm not sure that's fair. Coughlan's gone. I appreciate the frustration and respect it's not been good. But your point appears to disrespect everyone? Coughlan's team therefore Garner gets no credit as its copying? And anyone can play like Cogs? Personally- I thought JML was superb last night and he was not a Coughlan player. Without him- not sure how far the system got yesterday. Not really my point. More that all of the tactical periodisation bollocks did more harm than good. It's pretty clear sticking to what was established would have been far more effective and far less damaging. Don't see how anyone could try to deny that.
Agreed with this. BG keeps saying he needs a pre season, so surely the remit would have been to steady the ship and make bigger changes in the summer?
Even after 10 games of dross he still didn't change anything, not sure why he was expecting everything to suddenly click.
Some may say this is an extended pre season but had we lost on Tues, given Tranny won, id have been really fearing relegation.
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Post by dragonfly on Mar 12, 2020 17:04:20 GMT
Garner has much more to prove and this most welcome performance v Sunderland is a small and hopefully significant step. Tony Craig's comments about the showdown after the Southend disgrace was overdue. Are we to assume that Garner took on board the concerns form the Team?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 12, 2020 18:54:18 GMT
2 wins from 20 is where Ben Garner is at right now. Fact. UTG (But not with you Ben). His record is poor so far, but it's 2 wins out of 15 league games to correct you. (Also I think there were 1 or 2 games in the middle there where he was with his sick kid and not at the match. UTG !
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Post by markczgas on Mar 12, 2020 18:55:07 GMT
Garner has much more to prove and this most welcome performance v Sunderland is a small and hopefully significant step. Tony Craig's comments about the showdown after the Southend disgrace was overdue. Are we to assume that Garner took on board the concerns form the Team? probably ! Hopefully !
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Post by Icegas on Mar 13, 2020 5:01:12 GMT
Garner has much more to prove and this most welcome performance v Sunderland is a small and hopefully significant step. Tony Craig's comments about the showdown after the Southend disgrace was overdue. Are we to assume that Garner took on board the concerns form the Team? Well if he has (and I hooe he has) and we get a few results between now and the end of the season,and he then he trys to get the style he wants to play here to change over time, then I will say fair play and Im willing to give him that time.Before Sunderland I wanted him gone. Never in a million years did I believe we would win and Tuesday,and from what Ive read we played really well to boot. I really want him to succeed as he seems a nice guy and talks a great game.But he its going to take abit for him to regain the faith of many gasheads.
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Post by 1986gashead on Mar 13, 2020 6:08:52 GMT
If anything last night confirmed my feelings about Garner are right. He returned to Coughlan's set up, with Coughlan's tactics and used mostly Coughlan's squad. Guess what? We got the sort of result we could have expected under Coughlan. Kevin Maher could have been doing that for the past 19 games instead of the toot we've been being served up. I'm not sure that's fair. Coughlan's gone. I appreciate the frustration and respect it's not been good. But your point appears to disrespect everyone? Coughlan's team therefore Garner gets no credit as its copying? And anyone can play like Cogs? Personally- I thought JML was superb last night and he was not a Coughlan player. Without him- not sure how far the system got yesterday. Off the ball JML was the best player on the pitch by a mile, we gained so much ground and kept them on the back foot under constant pressure very largely because of the work rate he showed. Imo
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Post by Jomo on Mar 13, 2020 7:37:22 GMT
2 wins from 20 is where Ben Garner is at right now. Fact. UTG (But not with you Ben). His record is poor so far, but it's 2 wins out of 15 league games to correct you. (Also I think there were 1 or 2 games in the middle there where he was with his sick kid and not at the match. UTG ! We've played 18 games since Garner was appointed, 15 in the league, including the first one which was at home to Wombles. Garner missed the Coventry cup replay and the league game at Rotherham, both 3-0 defeats. So in effect Garner has been in charge of 16 games so far and won 2. Not quite as bad as 2 in 20 but still pretty woeful! However, after the win against Sunderland let's hope we'll see this ratio improve significantly.
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Post by Blueside on Mar 13, 2020 8:16:41 GMT
Garner has much more to prove and this most welcome performance v Sunderland is a small and hopefully significant step. Tony Craig's comments about the showdown after the Southend disgrace was overdue. Are we to assume that Garner took on board the concerns form the Team? Are TC's comments online anywhere? I'd be interested to hear them.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 13, 2020 8:30:54 GMT
Garner has much more to prove and this most welcome performance v Sunderland is a small and hopefully significant step. Tony Craig's comments about the showdown after the Southend disgrace was overdue. Are we to assume that Garner took on board the concerns form the Team? Are TC's comments online anywhere? I'd be interested to hear them. On the TC thread: gasheads.proboards.com/thread/16057/tony-craig-600-out
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