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Post by mjhgas on Mar 14, 2020 12:28:18 GMT
The irony of fans considering spending more money to help their club and a sport that is awash with money.
If Rovers or any other club don't have a worst case disaster plan then that's hard luck!
Perhaps if all income wasnt spent on wages, I'd have some sympathy.
For that reason, I'm out!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2020 12:28:54 GMT
To be honest, whilst I think we could try set up something with the club to help gasheads in need, I don't think it's the club's should be taking the responsibility of the government. We have sick pay and a strong benefits system compared to other countries.
There is space to work together here though, it's very easy to sit there and say Wael has enough money, but what if Hani doesn't approve it? The club could go under because we'd rather sit on a forum and moan about it, rather than at least discuss what we can do to help our club survive.
I think another idea I've had is vouchers - almost seen as a mini loan, you can buy vouchers or any amount which can be used on anything from tickets, hospitality, season tickets and shop purchases.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2020 12:29:15 GMT
Would it be possible to donate the food for the Ipswich game to the North Bristol food bank if it hasn’t already been done? I presume food and drink got purchased before the game got postponed? Yeah I saw Vila did something like this
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 12:34:06 GMT
To be honest, whilst I think we could try set up something with the club to help gasheads in need, I don't think it's the club's should be taking the responsibility of the government. We have sick pay and a strong benefits system compared to other countries. There is space to work together here though, it's very easy to sit there and say Wael has enough money, but what if Hani doesn't approve it? The club could go under because we'd rather sit on a forum and moan about it, rather than at least discuss what we can do to help our club survive. I think another idea I've had is vouchers - almost seen as a mini loan, you can buy vouchers or any amount which can be used on anything from tickets, hospitality, season tickets and shop purchases. If I was Hani reading this I’d be thinking “I’ll hold fire on releasing additional funds, the fans are talking of raising money to help pay wages etc so I’ll see what comes of that before doing anything”.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2020 12:37:18 GMT
To be honest, whilst I think we could try set up something with the club to help gasheads in need, I don't think it's the club's should be taking the responsibility of the government. We have sick pay and a strong benefits system compared to other countries. There is space to work together here though, it's very easy to sit there and say Wael has enough money, but what if Hani doesn't approve it? The club could go under because we'd rather sit on a forum and moan about it, rather than at least discuss what we can do to help our club survive. I think another idea I've had is vouchers - almost seen as a mini loan, you can buy vouchers or any amount which can be used on anything from tickets, hospitality, season tickets and shop purchases. If I was Hani reading this I’d be thinking “I’ll hold fire on releasing additional funds, the fans are talking of raising money to help pay wages etc so I’ll see what comes of that before doing anything”. And this is sadly the attitude that could see our club die. Any business person wouldn't rely on help, it would be seen as an added bonus. I'm not suggesting straight charity, just ways we can engage with fans to increase spending in the club whilst there's no income. Do you have any ideas yourself, eric?
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Post by axegas on Mar 14, 2020 12:38:07 GMT
I’m going to wait until the fixtures are confirmed to be cancelled rather than postponed before thinking about giving money to the club. It would look a bit silly if we donated a sum and the fixtures were fulfilled after all. We only had three home games to go anyway so whilst it would hit the clubs coffers, we aren’t exactly talking about a life or death scenario.
In the mean time if you want to help the cash flow of the club, purchase a season ticket or buy something from the club shop. I do think helping the charities that rely on the club and the community trust is a really good idea though.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2020 12:43:03 GMT
I’m going to wait until the fixtures are confirmed to be cancelled rather than postponed before thinking about giving money to the club. It would look a bit silly if we donated a sum and the fixtures were fulfilled after all. We only had three home games to go anyway so whilst it would hit the clubs coffers, we aren’t exactly talking about a life or death scenario. In the mean time if you want to help the cash flow of the club, purchase a season ticket or buy something from the club shop. I do think helping the charities that rely on the club and the community trust is a really good idea though. It's a good point, but the problem is by the time we get an update it could be too late. Either way, this is why I think the ticketing idea (pay part for ticket now and pay the rest when it gets played. If cancelled then you can use that money to a ticket/ST next season) or vouchers could work quite well. Vouchers can also be gifted too.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Mar 14, 2020 12:43:57 GMT
In my mind I think there are far more important things to put money into than football. The economy is already in a precarious position and jobs could be going all over the place in the coming months.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 12:51:27 GMT
If I was Hani reading this I’d be thinking “I’ll hold fire on releasing additional funds, the fans are talking of raising money to help pay wages etc so I’ll see what comes of that before doing anything”. And this is sadly the attitude that could see our club die. Any business person wouldn't rely on help, it would be seen as an added bonus. I'm not suggesting straight charity, just ways we can engage with fans to increase spending in the club whilst there's no income. Do you have any ideas yourself, eric? Yeah. If the club had engaged more with the fans in recent years instead of treating us as simply customers with no right to know what is going on with our club they may have a chance of getting financial support in times of crisis. Doesn’t help them now but they could bear it in mind if there is another such virus or other crisis in the future. btw I’ve put thousands into the club over the years through season tickets, pay on the day, use of their bar, shop purchases and food. I won’t be bullied into a guilt trip with comments like “your attitude could see our club die”.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 14, 2020 13:08:45 GMT
And this is sadly the attitude that could see our club die. Any business person wouldn't rely on help, it would be seen as an added bonus. I'm not suggesting straight charity, just ways we can engage with fans to increase spending in the club whilst there's no income. Do you have any ideas yourself, eric? Yeah. If the club had engaged more with the fans in recent years instead of treating us as simply customers with no right to know what is going on with our club they may have a chance of getting financial support in times of crisis. Doesn’t help them now but they could bear it in mind if there is another such virus or other crisis in the future. btw I’ve put thousands into the club over the years through season tickets, pay on the day, use of their bar, shop purchases and food. I won’t be bullied into a guilt trip with comments like “your attitude could see our club die”. Bullied? Get a grip, eric. I'm asking for suggestions, rather than slating the club. Is that so much to ask for? We've all invested time and money into BRFC, it's that money that keeps the club going. Going forward, the club might now get any income from fans for a while so I'm trying to suggest ideas in which we can help. If you don't want to help that's fine, say so and move on. But please then take the negativity elsewhere. Also, if you're going to quote me, learn to quote people correctly. I didn't say "your" attitude, I said "that" attitude. You pretended if you were Hani reading the forum, and if Hani had that attitude, the club would die. Do you disagree with that? Next time read the post properly before claiming the poor little bullied boy. Thank you.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 14, 2020 13:16:35 GMT
There are not many industries that will be left untouched by Corona and its after effects. But one of the few which is awash with money and will retain a huge customer base is football. They can sort out their own business and members going forward.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 14, 2020 13:25:18 GMT
Surely every team will have insurance to safe-guard themselves against things like this?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 14, 2020 13:29:29 GMT
And this is sadly the attitude that could see our club die. Any business person wouldn't rely on help, it would be seen as an added bonus. I'm not suggesting straight charity, just ways we can engage with fans to increase spending in the club whilst there's no income. Do you have any ideas yourself, eric? Yeah. If the club had engaged more with the fans in recent years instead of treating us as simply customers with no right to know what is going on with our club they may have a chance of getting financial support in times of crisis. Doesn’t help them now but they could bear it in mind if there is another such virus or other crisis in the future. btw I’ve put thousands into the club over the years through season tickets, pay on the day, use of their bar, shop purchases and food. I won’t be bullied into a guilt trip with comments like “your attitude could see our club die”.
Good post Eric!
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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 14, 2020 13:33:59 GMT
The government advice is that the peak for the virus is expected in 12 to 16 weeks so there are not going to be matches before then or for months after the peak. The gov't want to flatten the peak which means it will go on for longer. In addition, clubs near relegation zones, those wanting to retain Champions League places etc. are going to want the season void, clubs and the PFA won't want to risk their players, players are not going to be match fit etc.
Thanks Karen Brady. We’ll agree to disagree I guess. Time will tell. Italy is in lock-down, Spain next. It will happen in the UK.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2020 14:14:04 GMT
Surely every team will have insurance to safe-guard themselves against things like this? I doubt it as something like this has never occurred in the past? When we lose games to the weather etc I've never heard a club say they'll claim the cost back on their insurance
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Post by gas2 on Mar 14, 2020 14:56:58 GMT
I read somewhere that I think it was the owner of the posh said the government should Loan clubs in the lower leagues around 400k each to help with cash flow
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Post by wertongas on Mar 14, 2020 16:25:41 GMT
The reason why I suggested get your season tickets early is not only to bring income in now to make up for loss of match day revenue but also it helps the club plan early for next season. Those who would have watched us about 15 times this year but didn't buy a season ticket may want to consider it for next year to bring extra income in now. If the season was made void which I don't think it will be,would it mean we start next season with 23,clubs instead of 24 in league one like this year?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2020 16:35:23 GMT
I read somewhere that I think it was the owner of the posh said the government should Loan clubs in the lower leagues around 400k each to help with cash flow Isn't that really taking the p. given how much they've raised in transfer fees in recent years? They've just collected £1m for Maddison's short term loan to Hull. I assume he can find £400K from somewhere if he was only boasting last month they've signed an agreement to build a new stadium which isn't going to pay for itself. Next we'll have Salford's wealthy owners pleading for a loan when the EFL Trophy final is cancelled.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 14, 2020 16:44:01 GMT
To be honest, whilst I think we could try set up something with the club to help gasheads in need, I don't think it's the club's should be taking the responsibility of the government. We have sick pay and a strong benefits system compared to other countries. There is space to work together here though, it's very easy to sit there and say Wael has enough money, but what if Hani doesn't approve it? The club could go under because we'd rather sit on a forum and moan about it, rather than at least discuss what we can do to help our club survive. I think another idea I've had is vouchers - almost seen as a mini loan, you can buy vouchers or any amount which can be used on anything from tickets, hospitality, season tickets and shop purchases. I think vouchers are a great idea. Short term cash injection for the club, which fans can use for any number of products that the club sells further down the line.
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 14, 2020 17:01:44 GMT
Surely every team will have insurance to safe-guard themselves against things like this? Force-majeure....... Basically a catch all "naff off" pill from the insurers.
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