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Post by warehamgas on Mar 19, 2020 10:31:31 GMT
Exactly. As always in stuff like this there are the two issues. Health and football. Health comes first first, second and third in terms of priority but when football does resume whether in 3,6, 9 months or a years time the season now must be completed for many reasons. Nothing disrespectful in having a plan of what to do when the crisis is over. It’s what I expect leaders to do. UTG! I don't get why any Gashead is saying this season must be finished at all costs. When we're one of the limited number of clubs where it makes zero difference what they decide to do. In fact the sooner a new season starts of us the better. Take off your blinkers Topper unless that was a joke. It’s about far more than just BRFC. You’re right in that we are the bog-standard middle of the table side as it stands with nothing to play for. But I think the issues facing football are just a bit bigger than partisan flag-waving at the present time. UTG!
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2020 10:32:03 GMT
Hot summer in this country? Good luck with that! 22/23C in Wuhan seems to be enough at the moment, similar to our typical summer. Thank you Michael Fish. The trouble is we ain’t gonna see that sort of weather for at least 2 to 3 months if at all.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 19, 2020 10:55:27 GMT
If the UK is in full lock down now for 9 months I sense worrying about football will be the least of our worries! Hopefully, like normal flu, the hot summer weather will kill CV off.
I'm always amused by the notion that we cant be seen to worry about anything other than the COVID-19. Surely folk can worry and discuss more than one thing at a time?
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2020 10:59:52 GMT
If the UK is in full lock down now for 9 months I sense worrying about football will be the least of our worries! Hopefully, like normal flu, the hot summer weather will kill CV off.
I'm always amused by the notion that we cant be seen to worry about anything other than the COVID-19. Surely folk can worry and discuss more than one thing at a time?
What else would you like us to worry about? 😁
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 19, 2020 11:20:14 GMT
The EFL have unveiled their plans for dealing with the coronavirus crisis. A conference call was held earlier today between the board and representatives of their three divisions. It has led to a commitment to complete the 2019/20 season "in order to protect competition integrity", subject to the public health situation allowing it. To ease the financial strains on members, a £50million relief package will also be made available. The emergency meeting was brought in after the decision last Friday to suspend competitions until at least April 3 as a way of tackling the Covid-19 outbreak. Many potential solutions to the crisis have been put forward since, including playing behind closed doors, ending the season as it is, or waiting for as long as it takes to restart this campaign. The EFL have now indicated their preference is to find a way to bring this campaign to a finish. The statement read: "The primary objective, in order to protect competition integrity, is to deliver a successful conclusion to the 2019/20 season, subject to the over-riding priority around health and well-being. "Plans continue to be developed on the agreed principle that it is in the best interests of the EFL and clubs to complete the current season at the appropriate time." Financial problems brought on by the lack of gate receipts were also high on the agenda. In a bid to stave off problems in the short-term, the league intend to bring forward payments to clubs, while also making interest-free loans available. The statement continued: "The cash injection is included as part of a series of measures, that includes potential government support to help clubs and their associated businesses through this period of uncertainty. "The EFL welcomes last night’s announcement made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and is continuing discussions to understand how our clubs can access the funding made available to support businesses." I’d be much happier if this were a true gesture of altruism but it’s a loan. It will help many but it will still need paying back and there is the rub, how and when they want it back, hopefully they will show some flexibility here. Still, nice to read.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 19, 2020 11:25:23 GMT
I'm always amused by the notion that we cant be seen to worry about anything other than the COVID-19. Surely folk can worry and discuss more than one thing at a time?
What else would you like us to worry about? 😁
Shortage of Gin. I think COVID-19 is turning many into alcoholics. Plus staying at home will start a baby boom - not for me as I don't have sex as im married.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 11:38:57 GMT
Football will have to resume at sometime, like much of everyday life, and when it does it should be a resumption of the current season regardless of how long the hiatus. I don’t see anything disrespectful to those that have died by resuming football once this crisis is under control. Yes so it should but let’s put things into perspective,so if the season can’t resume until say December what then? players released from their contracts etc etc possibly clubs gone under the leagues might even have to be restructured. Complete the current season which should be manageable in 6-8 weeks before starting the next season. I did hear someone suggest the 2020/2021 season could have fewer games, eg just playing each team once with an equal split between home and away matches on a drawn basis. Might be some merit in doing that for one season if we want to get back into the traditional cycle as soon as possible. Finishing the season is a must to preserve integrity and issues around contracts expiring will be small fry compared to numerous lawsuits going on for weeks or months if we took your preferred option and voided the season. Interestingly, Terry Gibson who is now a media pundit on Spanish football says there has been absolutely no mention of their season being made void. Everyone has every intention of completing their season when it is appropriate to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 11:44:43 GMT
The EFL have unveiled their plans for dealing with the coronavirus crisis. A conference call was held earlier today between the board and representatives of their three divisions. It has led to a commitment to complete the 2019/20 season "in order to protect competition integrity", subject to the public health situation allowing it. To ease the financial strains on members, a £50million relief package will also be made available. The emergency meeting was brought in after the decision last Friday to suspend competitions until at least April 3 as a way of tackling the Covid-19 outbreak. Many potential solutions to the crisis have been put forward since, including playing behind closed doors, ending the season as it is, or waiting for as long as it takes to restart this campaign. The EFL have now indicated their preference is to find a way to bring this campaign to a finish. The statement read: "The primary objective, in order to protect competition integrity, is to deliver a successful conclusion to the 2019/20 season, subject to the over-riding priority around health and well-being. "Plans continue to be developed on the agreed principle that it is in the best interests of the EFL and clubs to complete the current season at the appropriate time." Financial problems brought on by the lack of gate receipts were also high on the agenda. In a bid to stave off problems in the short-term, the league intend to bring forward payments to clubs, while also making interest-free loans available. The statement continued: "The cash injection is included as part of a series of measures, that includes potential government support to help clubs and their associated businesses through this period of uncertainty. "The EFL welcomes last night’s announcement made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and is continuing discussions to understand how our clubs can access the funding made available to support businesses." I’d be much happier if this were a true gesture of altruism but it’s a loan. It will help many but it will still need paying back and there is the rub, how and when they want it back, hopefully they will show some flexibility here. Still, nice to read. Presumably this covers the, what we hope, will be a relatively short term cashflow problem. Once the games get replayed the lost monies will be recovered and the loan repaid - unless of course there is going to be a period of behind closed doors matches? On a separate note will any new player contracts involve some sort of contingency plan for such an event happening in the future? Perhaps a contracted reduction in pay during a government lockdown and subsequent football cancellation? I suppose players are currently missing out on win and goal bonuses - not that our lot will lose out on much there!!!
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Post by Icegas on Mar 19, 2020 11:50:37 GMT
Does anyone know if our players are still in training right now or when they are back?
I know the April return date is very unlikely to happen,but I guess if there was any chance for it to happen then they still need to be..
I just cant remember hearing anything about it.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 19, 2020 11:55:31 GMT
I’d be much happier if this were a true gesture of altruism but it’s a loan. It will help many but it will still need paying back and there is the rub, how and when they want it back, hopefully they will show some flexibility here. Still, nice to read. Presumably this covers the, what we hope, will be a relatively short term cashflow problem. Once the games get replayed the lost monies will be recovered and the loan repaid - unless of course there is going to be a period of behind closed doors matches? On a separate note will any new player contracts involve some sort of contingency plan for such an event happening in the future? Perhaps a contracted reduction in pay during a government lockdown and subsequent football cancellation? I suppose players are currently missing out on win and goal bonuses - not that our lot will lose out on much there!!! On gasheads there is a thread the quotes WAQ as giving his words that he will continue to keep all staff employed and cover wages. Maybe just coincidence that it has appeared at the same time but, as a critic of his and someone who has wanted him gone, I say credit where it’s due and thank you. He has been quick in announcing this as many others have remained quiet. Maybe, just maybe this is a turning point ? I hope so. Personally speaking, IF he did get us a stadium/training ground then I’d be happy to apologise on the pitch and in front of the home crowd. Well done Sir, I’m sure many have been worried about this and it’s some good news, amongst all the doom
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Mar 19, 2020 11:55:59 GMT
Does anyone know if our players are still in training right now or when they are back? I know the April return date is very unlikely to happen,but I guess if there was any chance for it to happen then they still need to be.. I just cant remember hearing anything about it. Good question
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2020 12:01:13 GMT
Yes so it should but let’s put things into perspective,so if the season can’t resume until say December what then? players released from their contracts etc etc possibly clubs gone under the leagues might even have to be restructured. Complete the current season which should be manageable in 6-8 weeks before starting the next season. I did hear someone suggest the 2020/2021 season could have fewer games, eg just playing each team once with an equal split between home and away matches on a drawn basis. Might be some merit in doing that for one season if we want to get back into the traditional cycle as soon as possible. Finishing the season is a must to preserve integrity and issues around contracts expiring will be small fry compared to numerous lawsuits going on for weeks or months if we took your preferred option and voided the season. Interestingly, Terry Gibson who is now a media pundit on Spanish football says there has been absolutely no mention of their season being made void. Everyone has every intention of completing their season when it is appropriate to do so. Why don’t they make the remaining games 60 minutes each instead of 90, that way they could play 3 games a week? So season over (league games) in 3 weeks, mind you if they do that we will see a lot more Bristol Rovers 0. 😂
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 19, 2020 12:04:27 GMT
Does anyone know if our players are still in training right now or when they are back? I know the April return date is very unlikely to happen,but I guess if there was any chance for it to happen then they still need to be.. I just cant remember hearing anything about it. From their Insta posts it looks like they've all gone back home, although realistically with "social distancing" I doubt they can train together anyway.
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Post by eastville1966 on Mar 19, 2020 13:10:49 GMT
Resumption of season now put back to 30th April says the EFL.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2020 13:12:07 GMT
Resumption of season now put back to 30th April says the EFL. What year?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 19, 2020 13:17:10 GMT
Resumption of season now put back to 30th April says the EFL. What year?
At least Nichols with have extenuating circumstances to explain part of his goal drought now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 13:38:54 GMT
Resumption of season now put back to 30th April says the EFL. What year? 1990?
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Post by knowall on Mar 19, 2020 15:42:41 GMT
The EFL have now supplied a breakdown of the figures between the various leagues: "Under the terms of the relief fund, Championship clubs will receive their remaining £800,000 award payment from the Premier League on Thursday. In addition, they will be able to apply for a £584,000 interest-free loan. For League One clubs the figures are £250,000 and £183,000, and for League Two sides they are £164,000 and £120,000." Just short of £450K in total should, you'd hope, see us though the next few months, although Knowall will no doubt be gutted by this newsSorry to disappoint you Topper, but as the £250,000 is money that will eventually be due to the Club, paying it now is an excellent move and should be applauded - which I do, especially if it allows staff to keep their jobs. The £183,000 is a loan but as it is interest free then it will also be helpful in what are exceptional circumstances. Add the confirmation today that Wael Al-Qadi is to pay staff wages himself this month - also generous, especially if that is also interest free. Perhaps, in view of your comment here and previously, I should explain that my view on our Club's finances is fashioned by the fact that I spent the final 35 years of my business career providing loans. Consequently, I have seen the benefit and negative consequences of what can happen to borrowers, sometimes depending what the money is used for. In the case of football, not just Rovers, but the whole industry, for many years it has become the norm for Clubs to borrow beyond their income which can be for some, as we have seen, a recipe for disaster. Specifically about Rovers, the Club has now borrowed somewhere approaching £20 million, and here is the rub, had the money been borrowed for capital projects such as for a training ground, a new stadium, or stadium improvements - no problem as that should have improved the value of the Club. But our Club has borrowed money mostly for day to day expenditure, and hence the Club is poorer - I hope you see the difference? I acknowledge that this is a common problem generally among football clubs in this country but just because some do it does not make it right for us to do it too. Especially when interest is added. There are exceptions, of course, where the Club's owners write off the loans, as per in the case of our near neighbours, but in our case the owners have secured the loan, which for them makes sense, but in my view could render our club vulnerable while the Club continues to make losses. I hope I am wrong. But we shareholders will soon find out at the AGM.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 19, 2020 15:53:43 GMT
Does anyone know if our players are still in training right now or when they are back? I know the April return date is very unlikely to happen,but I guess if there was any chance for it to happen then they still need to be.. I just cant remember hearing anything about it.
I've gone past the training ground every day this week, and I haven't seen them training once.
Usually I'd see them them in all weather conditions!!
I don't know when they're due back.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 19, 2020 16:24:44 GMT
Is Marty McFly playing for us?
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