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Post by Blueside on Mar 25, 2020 16:14:02 GMT
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Post by Marshy on Mar 25, 2020 16:14:37 GMT
Can't start the next season until you finish the current in my opinion. This is what I would do; - Finish the current season in the Autumn, complete the promotion, relegation, European places etc - After the Christmas period start a Spring Series from the 1st of December. Half a season playing each team either home or away with no promotion/relegation including teams that were promoted/relegated into that tier following the 19/20. Cups awarded at the end of the season. - Start a fresh from the 21/22 season. Yep, something like that, or if this goes on even longer simply have a 2019-21 season. I agree it could well come to this, at least the Euro finals will follow on nicely.
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Post by Blueside on Mar 25, 2020 16:17:20 GMT
Already said this in a previous thread, they need to finish season at all costs for all the reasons stated above as soon as safe to do so preferably with fans. plan should then be: 1. Give players a couple of weeks holiday and then manager/club/players maybe three weeks pre-season to build squad etc. (tight I know, but needs must!)
2. Start 2020/21 season when we are ready, whenever that may be. Make plans to play all games, but in a shorter window. i.e. more regular midweek fixtures and bin off the rubbish cup comps (e.g. all except FA cup).
3. Agree at start of season for no play-offs.
4. By the end of 20/21 and with a shorter close season again, hopefully we would be in time to be back to normal for 21/22. done, jobs a good'un
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Post by clockendgas on Mar 25, 2020 16:41:43 GMT
I would like to see the season finish properly when alls safe and well, but what ever happens i will just be glad to be alive and watching a live game again, football leaves a big void but life is far more important.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 25, 2020 17:01:12 GMT
Can't start the next season until you finish the current in my opinion. This is what I would do; - Finish the current season in the Autumn, complete the promotion, relegation, European places etc - After the Christmas period start a Spring Series from the 1st of December. Half a season playing each team either home or away with no promotion/relegation including teams that were promoted/relegated into that tier following the 19/20. Cups awarded at the end of the season. - Start a fresh from the 21/22 season. Yep, something like that, or if this goes on even longer simply have a 2019-21 season. I don't get why any Gashead says that, this season's been god awful, so the sooner it's over the better for us surely. I can't imagine the whole fabric of football will collapse if we do just scrap this season. In some ways it might be better just to start afresh next season in September as life will have changed so much for so many when/if we get to the other side of CV. Looking forward to a new season might be a good thing rather than dragging out last season.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 25, 2020 17:22:51 GMT
Yep, something like that, or if this goes on even longer simply have a 2019-21 season. I don't get why any Gashead says that, this season's been god awful, so the sooner it's over the better for us surely. I can't imagine the whole fabric of football will collapse if we do just scrap this season. In some ways it might be better just to start afresh next season in September as life will have changed so much for so many when/if we get to the other side of CV. Looking forward to a new season might be a good thing rather than dragging out last season. The integrity of the game is obviously more important than one mediocre season (or even one great or awful season) for a single team.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 25, 2020 18:23:38 GMT
I’ve never liked Barrow since that horrible twat broke Sean Riggs jaw. That was shocking, I remember they showed that match live on the BBC didn't they? Personally I hold nothing against Barrow as a club though...one dickhead does not make a nasty club IMO. Was extended highlights I believe. The bloke was convicted for assault I believe? Whilst I’m glad the correct actions were taken, if that was in the EFL or especially the premier league it would be ignored. EG Suarez - bloke should genuinely be banned
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 18:32:48 GMT
That was shocking, I remember they showed that match live on the BBC didn't they? Personally I hold nothing against Barrow as a club though...one dickhead does not make a nasty club IMO. Was extended highlights I believe. The bloke was convicted for assault I believe? Whilst I’m glad the correct actions were taken, if that was in the EFL or especially the premier league it would be ignored. EG Suarez - bloke should genuinely be banned Only top level comparison I can think of was Duncan Ferguson and he went to prison and then had a ban on top when he was released. I think Tony Adams went to prison whilst an England player but that was for driving rather than on field violence. TBH in this modern era where there is so much jealousy and hatred of top players salaries a player from the premier league would get treated more harshly than a lower league player IMO.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 25, 2020 18:57:32 GMT
I don't get why any Gashead says that, this season's been god awful, so the sooner it's over the better for us surely. I can't imagine the whole fabric of football will collapse if we do just scrap this season. In some ways it might be better just to start afresh next season in September as life will have changed so much for so many when/if we get to the other side of CV. Looking forward to a new season might be a good thing rather than dragging out last season. The integrity of the game is obviously more important than one mediocre season (or even one great or awful season) for a single team. As I said I can't see football collapsing if the authorities now write off a season which has already been destroyed by CV. Most likely apart from the top 6 or so teams in each division the other teams would be glad to see the back of it anyway.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Mar 25, 2020 19:07:02 GMT
Even if restrictions are lifted on non essential employment (professional sport), say June, match fitness will be at least a month on. So restart season mid July. Game time could be reduced to say 60mins for the remaining games and for next season to allow up to four games a week to be played.
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Post by gregsy on Mar 25, 2020 19:13:37 GMT
Even if restrictions are lifted on non essential employment (professional sport), say June, match fitness will be at least a month on. So restart season mid July. Game time could be reduced to say 60mins for the remaining games and for next season to allow up to four games a week to be played. I think this is the problem dude.... Clubs and the authorities have contracted and signed up responsibilities and commitments.... Changing the rules or circumstances won't be easy....
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Post by lpgas on Mar 25, 2020 19:16:10 GMT
Scrap the season, star agin as we were come August Bank Holiday. Reinstate Bury and give Bolton - 50 points
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 25, 2020 19:26:04 GMT
Impossible to discuss anything beyond wildly hypothetical what the best option is as we have no clue when we'll be out of this. At best I think we'll be looking at starting the next season on time and that's only possible if we decide to can off the current one. If we keep the current one going then we'll do well if this doesn't impact the season schedules for a few years yet.
The Prem lot won't want to play any more regularly than they have and will chuck their toys out of their pram if they don't get a summer holiday so it's all a bit of a mess.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Mar 25, 2020 19:38:42 GMT
Impossible to discuss anything beyond wildly hypothetical what the best option is as we have no clue when we'll be out of this. At best I think we'll be looking at starting the next season on time and that's only possible if we decide to can off the current one. If we keep the current one going then we'll do well if this doesn't impact the season schedules for a few years yet. The Prem lot won't want to play any more regularly than they have and will chuck their toys out of their pram if they don't get a summer holiday so it's all a bit of a mess. A lot of Prem players would have been involved in Euro 20.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 25, 2020 19:42:08 GMT
Was extended highlights I believe. The bloke was convicted for assault I believe? Whilst I’m glad the correct actions were taken, if that was in the EFL or especially the premier league it would be ignored. EG Suarez - bloke should genuinely be banned Only top level comparison I can think of was Duncan Ferguson and he went to prison and then had a ban on top when he was released. I think Tony Adams went to prison whilst an England player but that was for driving rather than on field violence. TBH in this modern era where there is so much jealousy and hatred of top players salaries a player from the premier league would get treated more harshly than a lower league player IMO. Tbh I’m not sure about that. If an EFL player was caught being racist and had bitten 3 different players, they wouldn’t get larger contracts and deals at Barcelona.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 20:25:04 GMT
Only top level comparison I can think of was Duncan Ferguson and he went to prison and then had a ban on top when he was released. I think Tony Adams went to prison whilst an England player but that was for driving rather than on field violence. TBH in this modern era where there is so much jealousy and hatred of top players salaries a player from the premier league would get treated more harshly than a lower league player IMO. Tbh I’m not sure about that. If an EFL player was caught being racist and had bitten 3 different players, they wouldn’t get larger contracts and deals at Barcelona. I think they would get better deals or moves (obviously not to Barcelona) if they were the best player in the division. Like it or not money is a factor - look at how Derby treated their players differently after the drink drive incident last year. A player who was a high earner with his best years behind him was sacked. The other two who had good transfer value and were seen as good prospects were retained. Getting new contracts or big moves is a bit of a different issue to punishment from the football authorities for misdemeanours
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 25, 2020 21:56:53 GMT
Yep, something like that, or if this goes on even longer simply have a 2019-21 season. I don't get why any Gashead says that, this season's been god awful, so the sooner it's over the better for us surely. I can't imagine the whole fabric of football will collapse if we do just scrap this season. In some ways it might be better just to start afresh next season in September as life will have changed so much for so many when/if we get to the other side of CV. Looking forward to a new season might be a good thing rather than dragging out last season. When you say scrap the season are you advocating making it void (no promotion, no relegation) or do you just take the positions as they are now (with promotion and relegation) after we “scrap the season”? What’s happening at the moment in football transcends individual clubs and what’s best for them. Yes, in a way I’ll be glad when this season is over but as I responded to you on an earlier thread what’s happening at the moment is far bigger than what individual clubs want. I suspect if we were in the top 3 your opinion would be different. It is important, imo, that we finish this season and then consider what we do with the 20/21 season. This season has already suffered with the Bolton/Bury fiasco to then trump that with abandoning the season would be unfair and bad for the game of football. Your posts on this seem to be completely formed because we’re completely mid table, would you be saying the same if we were in the top 3. UTG!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 25, 2020 22:22:33 GMT
Tbh I’m not sure about that. If an EFL player was caught being racist and had bitten 3 different players, they wouldn’t get larger contracts and deals at Barcelona. I think they would get better deals or moves (obviously not to Barcelona) if they were the best player in the division. Like it or not money is a factor - look at how Derby treated their players differently after the drink drive incident last year. A player who was a high earner with his best years behind him was sacked. The other two who had good transfer value and were seen as good prospects were retained. Getting new contracts or big moves is a bit of a different issue to punishment from the football authorities for misdemeanours True and a good point, but I think it also backs up my point at the same time because pretty much any Prem footballer is worth tens of millions, meaning that ultimately they will never really be punished. Wasn’t Rooney caught drunk driving a couple of times as well?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 22:45:08 GMT
I think they would get better deals or moves (obviously not to Barcelona) if they were the best player in the division. Like it or not money is a factor - look at how Derby treated their players differently after the drink drive incident last year. A player who was a high earner with his best years behind him was sacked. The other two who had good transfer value and were seen as good prospects were retained. Getting new contracts or big moves is a bit of a different issue to punishment from the football authorities for misdemeanours True and a good point, but I think it also backs up my point at the same time because pretty much any Prem footballer is worth tens of millions, meaning that ultimately they will never really be punished. Wasn’t Rooney caught drunk driving a couple of times as well? You’re right they won’t be punished by their clubs or future employers. They don’t however get any special treatment by the football authorities or courts, in fact the higher up the ladder the more likely you are to have the ‘role model’ stuff chucked at you and treated more harshly and made an example of. Look at John Terry, cleared in a court of law but still punished by the football authorities because it was a very sensitive issue and they wanted to use him to send a message about how strongly they treated racism.
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Post by aghast on Mar 25, 2020 22:46:54 GMT
If the season is scrapped I think we can expect some massive claims for compensation from Leeds and West Brom.
But whole hearted support from Norwich City.
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