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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 26, 2020 19:04:44 GMT
Medical staff, police etc. are going to be needed in other areas rather than at football matches.
Fans over 70 etc. are going to be in isolation for at least the next 3 months.
Players will need a few weeks of training to get fit again.
Every player, manager, coach, medical staff etc. will need to be tested before a coaching session or match. If any player catches Covid-19 then that club isn't going to be able to train or play matches for 14 days.
Many contracts expire etc. on June 30th. Some will have pre-contracts agreed with other clubs.
Some players will have bonus deals based upon final league position etc. Clubs might save that money if the season is declared void.
Some foreign players may have gone abroad and not able to travel back to the UK.
If the season is ended/void then perhaps Bolton could start next season with the same points deduction as they did this season.
It would be unfair to decide relegation and promotion places based upon the current league standings as clubs have not played all home and away matches. Relegated clubs could make massive claims for loss of income. Clubs who think they were denied promotion wouldn't be able to make such claims as the season wasn't completed.
It could be a good opportunity to delay the start of next season so that it runs throughout the summer months; fewer matches postponed due to the weather, kids can stay up later to watch more midweek matches etc. TV companies could be offered additional matches next season to compensate for loss of matches this season.
Sponsorship deals etc. ending this season could be a challenge to negotiate.
It seems likely that the major European leagues will try to come to an agreement about what to do as there could be an impact upon Champions League places etc. for next season.
If government actions mean that the season isn't able to finish before next season is due to start then leagues could ask the govt for compensation. Therefore it could be in the leagues interest not to declare the season over until the government makes it impossible for this season to be completed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 26, 2020 19:36:45 GMT
Not sure we need another thread about the CV, as far as your last point why the hell should tax payers bail the Premiership out? The first thing they need to do is follow rugby's example and make all players take a 25% pay cut.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:14:06 GMT
Medical staff, police etc. are going to be needed in other areas rather than at football matches.
Fans over 70 etc. are going to be in isolation for at least the next 3 months.
Players will need a few weeks of training to get fit again.
Every player, manager, coach, medical staff etc. will need to be tested before a coaching session or match. If any player catches Covid-19 then that club isn't going to be able to train or play matches for 14 days.
Many contracts expire etc. on June 30th. Some will have pre-contracts agreed with other clubs.
Some players will have bonus deals based upon final league position etc. Clubs might save that money if the season is declared void.
Some foreign players may have gone abroad and not able to travel back to the UK.
If the season is ended/void then perhaps Bolton could start next season with the same points deduction as they did this season.
It would be unfair to decide relegation and promotion places based upon the current league standings as clubs have not played all home and away matches. Relegated clubs could make massive claims for loss of income. Clubs who think they were denied promotion wouldn't be able to make such claims as the season wasn't completed.
It could be a good opportunity to delay the start of next season so that it runs throughout the summer months; fewer matches postponed due to the weather, kids can stay up later to watch more midweek matches etc. TV companies could be offered additional matches next season to compensate for loss of matches this season.
Sponsorship deals etc. ending this season could be a challenge to negotiate.
It seems likely that the major European leagues will try to come to an agreement about what to do as there could be an impact upon Champions League places etc. for next season.
If government actions mean that the season isn't able to finish before next season is due to start then leagues could ask the govt for compensation. Therefore it could be in the leagues interest not to declare the season over until the government makes it impossible for this season to be completed.
A couple of questions. Why would footballers, coaches and staff have to be tested before returning to work? If that doesn’t apply in most other industries why should people working in football be treated any differently. Testing is very limited and healthcare workers and other vital industries will be way ahead in the queue. (Unless Idris Elba and Prince Charles can give Rovers some tips on queue jumping!). Fitness levels should still be at a reasonable level with players having been given individual programmes to keep ticking over. I don’t see why they would need any more than a week together before playing. Ok they won’t be 100% match sharp but it will still be a pretty level playing field with all clubs having been in the same situation for a few months. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 26, 2020 21:24:22 GMT
Not sure we need another thread about the CV, as far as your last point why the hell should tax payers bail the Premiership out? The first thing they need to do is follow rugby's example and make all players take a 25% pay cut.
The PFA is to consider a deal for Premier League players to defer wages in an effort to help clubs deal with cash-flow. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Mar 26, 2020 21:47:45 GMT
Football is a contact sport and they wouldn't want to take unnecessary risks spreading the virus.
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 26, 2020 22:26:36 GMT
I struggle to see how any “contact” sport could be played whilst these “social distancing” rules are in force. And can’t see them being relaxed anytime soon with no sight on the horizon of it getting better.
How can you send such mixed messages when so much has been invested in trying to get people to obey them?
Can’t see sport in general starting up again this year tbh. It’s going to be a long haul in my opinion.
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Post by RD on Mar 27, 2020 8:40:33 GMT
I struggle to see how any “contact” sport could be played whilst these “social distancing” rules are in force. And can’t see them being relaxed anytime soon with no sight on the horizon of it getting better. How can you send such mixed messages when so much has been invested in trying to get people to obey them? Can’t see sport in general starting up again this year tbh. It’s going to be a long haul in my opinion. Agreed. In my mind, there is absolutely no way whatsoever football will be back before June. I'd bet my life on that. However, it's likely to be longer than that still. I wouldn't be surprised it it was around end of July/early August that things start attempting to get back to "normal". So around the very time next season should have been starting. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 27, 2020 16:22:46 GMT
In my opinion, the remaining of this seasons matches will not be played until early in 2021, there will not be a 2020/21 season.
The next full season will start August 2021 (21/22 season) or earlier so the 22/23 season can be extended to have a break during the 2022 world cup
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Post by Icegas on Mar 31, 2020 8:38:32 GMT
In my opinion, the remaining of this seasons matches will not be played until early in 2021, there will not be a 2020/21 season. The next full season will start August 2021 (21/22 season) or earlier so the 22/23 season can be extended to have a break during the 2022 world cup I think your right.I really dont see how any football,or any other sporting events etc... being played or held before Oct/Nov at the very...very earliest. A customer that I know from work that works for Rolls Royce told me that the government has put an request in for them to build some ventilators and negotiations were on going as the governments around the world believe this is going to taken over 2 years to control and for life to get back to normal.The guy is a legit guy and not the Bullshitting type and Ive known him for years. If this is the case then this is a far graver problem then first thought and we are heading not only into a recession but a worldwide depression with over 20% being out of work.If so the problems caused by that will be far worse than this virus will be. Thus I cant see us watching the Gas for a very long time and sadly some clubs will fold. |
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Post by oldgas on Mar 31, 2020 10:58:10 GMT
I don't believe the government should be held accountable for the season ending because they've imposed a lockdown.
They've done that for the good of the general population. Football is a nice to have commodity, but isn't vital to the country functioning.
There's going to be a huge debt that needs paying off when this is all over. The period of austerity just ended will be as nothing to what's around the corner. Get used to tax and price increases, it's as inevitable as Spring follows winter.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 31, 2020 12:06:23 GMT
I don't believe the government should be held accountable for the season ending because they've imposed a lockdown. They've done that for the good of the general population. Football is a nice to have commodity, but isn't vital to the country functioning. There's going to be a huge debt that needs paying off when this is all over. The period of austerity just ended will be as nothing to what's around the corner. Get used to tax and price increases, it's as inevitable as Spring follows winter. The whole world should put pressure on the chinese for this and they should pay the bills that each country has to pay for the world's economy crashing as it has and will. They f**ked this thing up and Trumps right its the Chinese flu. The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from. To be honest I dont think anyone can rule out the chance that this was not released on purpose by them as a bio weapon to slow down the west's economy due to how well it was doing. After this ends there are going to be alot of answers that those fuckers need to step up and answer one way or another. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 31, 2020 12:17:22 GMT
In my opinion, the remaining of this seasons matches will not be played until early in 2021, there will not be a 2020/21 season. The next full season will start August 2021 (21/22 season) or earlier so the 22/23 season can be extended to have a break during the 2022 world cup Sadly I agree with the above statement and the daily sayings " Life isn't going to be the same for a long time". Talking to a few mates last night over the phone and we all agreed NO sports until 2021. However: how plausible is it to have a plan B ?. All sports to be played with less than 500 in total. The setting up of checkpoints via security and testing prior to entry ?. In this way all games could be screened live generating an income and fixtures could be completed in a token way. This would hopefully create a surge in people signing up for SKY BT etc to watch major sports over the summer months. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52063330 ( Click link ) This is a model being considered by EWCB in tests against West Indies . I know this is a desperate proposal . The alternative is NO sports for up to 12 months. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52063330 |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 31, 2020 12:33:05 GMT
I don't believe the government should be held accountable for the season ending because they've imposed a lockdown. They've done that for the good of the general population. Football is a nice to have commodity, but isn't vital to the country functioning. There's going to be a huge debt that needs paying off when this is all over. The period of austerity just ended will be as nothing to what's around the corner. Get used to tax and price increases, it's as inevitable as Spring follows winter. The whole world should put pressure on the chinese for this and they should pay the bills that each country has to pay for the world's economy crashing as it has and will. They f**ked this thing up and Trumps right its the Chinese flu. The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from. To be honest I dont think anyone can rule out the chance that this was not released on purpose by them as a bio weapon to slow down the west's economy due to how well it was doing. After this ends there are going to be alot of answers that those fuckers need to step up and answer one way or another. You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? |
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Post by Icegas on Mar 31, 2020 13:05:15 GMT
The whole world should put pressure on the chinese for this and they should pay the bills that each country has to pay for the world's economy crashing as it has and will. They f**ked this thing up and Trumps right its the Chinese flu. The lady gardens either covered up when the outbreak began,they live like animals with the wet farms where its said to have started from. To be honest I dont think anyone can rule out the chance that this was not released on purpose by them as a bio weapon to slow down the west's economy due to how well it was doing. After this ends there are going to be alot of answers that those fuckers need to step up and answer one way or another. You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? What was anything far right about what I said? I dare you to name one thing as I never said anything. Please dont ever responed to any of my posts on here as your a disgrace and a liar and should not be a moderator as your a simple bully. I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum. Again dont responed to anything I post again unless you can grow up and responed in an no agressive manner.You may disagree with people but your a disgrace in how you responed. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 31, 2020 13:11:14 GMT
You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? What was anything far right about what I said? I dare you to name one thing as I never said anything. Please dont ever responed to any of my posts on here as your a disgrace and a liar and should not be a moderator as your a simple bully. I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum. Again dont responed to anything I post again unless you can grow up and responed in an no agressive manner.You may disagree but your a disgrace. What the f**k are you talking about? 'I dare you to say one thing...' 'Please dont ever responed to any of my posts...' You are genuinely f**king thick. You're the guy who started calling little girls stupid bitches, so I think you're the bully, not me. All I'm doing is responding to your stupid posts. If you think that's bullying then you're more of a whiny man-baby than I had you down for. And I had you down as a massive mewling whining man-baby. Honestly, if you're prepared to grow up, I will treat you like an adult. If you continue to post your massive whining man-baby half thoughts of sh**, then I'll continue to treat you like one. It's not just about politeness, you need to fire off more then two brain cells every time you hit the keyboard. If you want to meet face to face, just say the word. |
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Post by Icegas on Mar 31, 2020 13:19:40 GMT
What was anything far right about what I said? I dare you to name one thing as I never said anything. Please dont ever responed to any of my posts on here as your a disgrace and a liar and should not be a moderator as your a simple bully. I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum. Again dont responed to anything I post again unless you can grow up and responed in an no agressive manner.You may disagree but your a disgrace. What the f**k are you talking about? 'I dare you to say one thing' 'please don't respond to my posts...' You are genuinely f**king thick. You're the guy who started calling little girls stupid bitches, so I think you're the bully, not me. All I'm doing is responding to your stupid posts. If you think that's bullying then you're more of a whiny man-baby than I had you down for. And I had you down as a massive mewling whining man-baby. Honestly, if you're prepared to grow up, I will treat you like an adult. If you continue to post your massive whining man-baby half thoughts of sh**, then I'll continue to treat you like one. It's not just about politeness, you need to fire off more then two brain cells every time you hit the keyboard. Being stuck in your home right now must be Dam your head up alittle more then most of us by whats going on in your head.Your a hateful person.I feel sorry for you...Really I do.😓 Im glad I dont feel that daily. I would contintue this if I thought it was worth while but you are always right and everyone else are just wrong and thick. Btw...a number of people on here have pm'd me about you in the past saying dont bother answering you on threads due to how you are. And they are right! |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 31, 2020 13:23:01 GMT
What the f**k are you talking about? 'I dare you to say one thing' 'please don't respond to my posts...' You are genuinely f**king thick. You're the guy who started calling little girls stupid bitches, so I think you're the bully, not me. All I'm doing is responding to your stupid posts. If you think that's bullying then you're more of a whiny man-baby than I had you down for. And I had you down as a massive mewling whining man-baby. Honestly, if you're prepared to grow up, I will treat you like an adult. If you continue to post your massive whining man-baby half thoughts of sh**, then I'll continue to treat you like one. It's not just about politeness, you need to fire off more then two brain cells every time you hit the keyboard. Being stuck in your home right now must be f**king your head up alittle more then most of us by whats going on in your head.Your a hateful person.I feel sorry for you...Really I do.😓 Im glad I dont feel that daily. I would contintue this if I thought it was worth while but you are always right and everyone else are just wrong and thick. Btw...a number of people on here have pm'd me about you in the past saying dont bother answering you on threads due to how you are. And they are right! "I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum." What's happening now? |
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Post by oldgas on Mar 31, 2020 14:07:29 GMT
I don't believe the government should be held accountable for the season ending because they've imposed a lockdown.
They've done that for the good of the general population. Football is a nice to have commodity, but isn't vital to the country functioning.
There's going to be a huge debt that needs paying off when this is all over. The period of austerity just ended will be as nothing to what's around the corner. Get used to tax and price increases, it's as inevitable as Spring follows winter.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 31, 2020 14:19:44 GMT
You really are a thoughtless, thick, nasty little sh**. Why don't you f**k off back to your far right thoughtless thick nasty little sh** forums where you can post your thoughtless thick nasty little thick posts to your thoughtless thick and nasty heart's content, without bothering people with more than three brain cells? What was anything far right about what I said? I dare you to name one thing as I never said anything. Please dont ever responed to any of my posts on here as your a disgrace and a liar and should not be a moderator as your a simple bully. I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum. Again dont responed to anything I post again unless you can grow up and responed in an no agressive manner.You may disagree with people but your a disgrace in how you responed. Come on Antonio. Ice was only replying to my post and to be fair he has a point. I think you'll find that HM Government aren't very happy with the Chinese, and probably with good cause. You can never trust a totalitarian regime, and some of their actions, if carried out by any other country, would be roundly condemned. I'm thinking about the annexation of Tibet, their treatment of Chinese Muslims, treatment of animals in their markets, running people over with tanks, etc etc. Just because they have yellow skin and are Asian doesn't mean you have to defend them blindly and accuse anyone with a different view as being, and I quote "Far right, thoughtless nasty little sh**" Weve moved on from being able to shut down any discussion by crying 'Racist' and I think you ought to apologise. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 31, 2020 14:26:48 GMT
What was anything far right about what I said? I dare you to name one thing as I never said anything. Please dont ever responed to any of my posts on here as your a disgrace and a liar and should not be a moderator as your a simple bully. I would love to see you have the balls to say any of your comments when you attack people on here to there faces rather then over a forum. Again dont responed to anything I post again unless you can grow up and responed in an no agressive manner.You may disagree with people but your a disgrace in how you responed. Come on Antonio. Ice was only replying to my post and to be fair he has a point. I think you'll find that HM Government aren't very happy with the Chinese, and probably with good cause. You can never trust a totalitarian regime, and some of their actions, if carried out by any other country, would be roundly condemned. I'm thinking about the annexation of Tibet, their treatment of Chinese Muslims, treatment of animals in their markets, running people over with tanks, etc etc. Just because they have yellow skin and are Asian doesn't mean you have to defend them blindly and accuse anyone with a different view as being, and I quote "Far right, thoughtless nasty little sh**" Weve moved on from being able to shut down any discussion by crying 'Racist' and I think you ought to apologise. Well, obviously the Chinese regime is sh** I'm not defending them, but 'they live like animals' is sh**. The idea that they engineered the virus for economic war is pretty fantastic, and obviously needs more than a stupid whim to back it up. Also if you're conflating the people with the regime, that doesn't make any sense. Either people are living like animals and they caused the virus accidentally, or the regime engineered it on purpose. Not both. Think about it. If you're trying both, it just looks like you're just throwing mindless sh** hoping some of it sticks. Also however much they tried to cover it up, we still had several months warning where we did absolutely nothing except watch it on telly. So the cover up was clearly not the cause of our lack of preparedness. I never mentioned anything about racism, but this is like the fourth time you've brought it up for no reason. You're obsessed. I mentioned far right coz the far right forums are a hotbed of stupid conspiracy theories, like the Chinese govt did it on purpose. |
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