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Post by althepirate on Apr 1, 2020 20:27:46 GMT
So I presume the SC aren't going to take the club to court anymore then? I wonder why?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2020 20:39:33 GMT
Have they? Is that in the public domain or more conjecture? it was on 20man and in the post I respect there are legalities but we're talking about someone who's the Supporters' Club representative on the board of directors. They hold an eight per cent shareholding and you can't enlighten me or Rovers fans listening into why you've banned that man? No, I can't. I would if I could. But the position is, the club and owners are more than happy to have a Supporters Club representative on the board but at the moment it's not Ken Masters.Where's your evidence that's really the case? Given BSS quit having rarely attended Board meetings and KM has now confirmed he hasn't attended one since March 2019 why is another SC rep anymore likely to be ask to attend board meetings. If Wael cared about the fans surely he hold Q&A's/Forums with fans?
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Post by peterparker on Apr 1, 2020 20:45:47 GMT
it was on 20man and in the post I respect there are legalities but we're talking about someone who's the Supporters' Club representative on the board of directors. They hold an eight per cent shareholding and you can't enlighten me or Rovers fans listening into why you've banned that man? No, I can't. I would if I could. But the position is, the club and owners are more than happy to have a Supporters Club representative on the board but at the moment it's not Ken Masters.Where's your evidence that's really the case? Given BSS quit having rarely attended Board meetings and KM has now confirmed he hasn't attended one since March 2019 why is another SC rep anymore likely to be ask to attend board meetings. If Wael cared about the fans surely he hold Q&A's/Forums with fans? So if all the evidence is there, i will simply ask again, is why was Ken hanging around and not giving the same resignation speech months ago, or indeed when BSS quit?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2020 20:49:59 GMT
Where do you think the SC got the money to invest then exactly? Secondly the OWNER of the club is NOT the club he, me or you support. There have been a lot of appalling owners of clubs and one who lends himself money to blow as he sees fit on bloated wages and staff structures by way of an Equity Release Loan secured on the company’s only asset is right up there in the list. It’s exactly why Portsmouth nearly went out of business. Agree with your point, but it’s Wael’s (Al’Qadi) money we rely on to survive and he deserves to be shown a modicum of respect for that alone. Regardless whether you agree with the way he’s running the show or not. If KM and his weasels want to try and kick the legs from under the club you would like to think they had a bundle of cash and provided a planned alternative that they present to the SC and the wider fan base as an alternative. But they don’t and never had. It’s more fantasist than they accuse our owner of being. Instead they decided to be underhand, Snakey and snide in an attempt to turn fans against the club, to indict our owner in a smear campaign which even the press weren’t interested in and to create angles for their own benefit. I’m glad it failed on them. I admit KM has done lots for BRFC. But ego and ambition overshadowed his good works and his ability as a fit and proper director. You do realise if Wael hadn't ran up £16m debts during his tenure we wouldn't need his money to survive? As far as KM failing Wael hasn't led us out of the other side of CV yet. What the hell happened last weekend when apparently two new directors disappeared even before they were announced, what was that all about?
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2020 20:56:09 GMT
Where's your evidence that's really the case? Given BSS quit having rarely attended Board meetings and KM has now confirmed he hasn't attended one since March 2019 why is another SC rep anymore likely to be ask to attend board meetings. If Wael cared about the fans surely he hold Q&A's/Forums with fans? So if all the evidence is there, i will simply ask again, is why was Ken hanging around and not giving the same resignation speech months ago, or indeed when BSS quit? The fact KM was content to hang around doesn't mean his replacement is suddenly going to be asked to attend board meetings? KM clearly had failings but the Wael fan club suddenly expecting everything to be fine now he's departed are deluded.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 2, 2020 0:23:34 GMT
it was on 20man and in the post I respect there are legalities but we're talking about someone who's the Supporters' Club representative on the board of directors. They hold an eight per cent shareholding and you can't enlighten me or Rovers fans listening into why you've banned that man? No, I can't. I would if I could. But the position is, the club and owners are more than happy to have a Supporters Club representative on the board but at the moment it's not Ken Masters.Where's your evidence that's really the case? Given BSS quit having rarely attended Board meetings and KM has now confirmed he hasn't attended one since March 2019 why is another SC rep anymore likely to be ask to attend board meetings. If Wael cared about the fans surely he hold Q&A's/Forums with fans? Wael said a supporter's club representative could attend every game, but that it couldn't have been Masters as he was banned. If Masters would have stepped down sooner, then someone else could have already attended the meetings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 0:42:10 GMT
What was he banned for again? Can somebody remind me?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 2, 2020 5:11:23 GMT
So if all the evidence is there, i will simply ask again, is why was Ken hanging around and not giving the same resignation speech months ago, or indeed when BSS quit? The fact KM was content to hang around doesn't mean his replacement is suddenly going to be asked to attend board meetings? KM clearly had failings but the Wael fan club suddenly expecting everything to be fine now he's departed are deluded. Indeed.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 2, 2020 5:43:01 GMT
So if all the evidence is there, i will simply ask again, is why was Ken hanging around and not giving the same resignation speech months ago, or indeed when BSS quit? The fact KM was content to hang around doesn't mean his replacement is suddenly going to be asked to attend board meetings? KM clearly had failings but the Wael fan club suddenly expecting everything to be fine now he's departed are deluded. What are you talking about now? I am not pro Wael or anti Wael, but i have been critical of Ken and the SC regarding the directorship for years before Wael even turned up. I dont know if a new rep would be allowed to attend meetings. And if they wernt they should instantly resign. (Or wait a year and do it)
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Post by baggins on Apr 2, 2020 7:12:02 GMT
This Chap was supposed to represent me, as a fan right? I assume he was paid to do that? To hear that he's now left really makes no difference to me as I wouldn't recognise him if he were stood next to me and I've never had any communication from him. Ever. People harp on about lack of news and info from Wael, our Owner, but this Guys job was to act as my go between and he's been less than quiet throughout.
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Post by philbemmygas on Apr 2, 2020 7:28:44 GMT
This Chap was supposed to represent me, as a fan right? I assume he was paid to do that? To hear that he's now left really makes no difference to me as I wouldn't recognise him if he were stood next to me and I've never had any communication from him. Ever. People harp on about lack of news and info from Wael, our Owner, but this Guys job was to act as my go between and he's been less than quiet throughout. I like Ken as a bloke; but he was not accessible to the fan base like Brian was before he quit.
The very least a fans representative should do is:
1. Mix with said fans 2. Communicate (two way thing)
3. ad infinitum
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Post by singupgas on Apr 2, 2020 7:32:35 GMT
Don't know the guy, never met Ken Masters... there are some on here that seem to think they know him well and the inner workings of his brain.
Reading the statement is not good and shows what sort of state we are in at the club.
I too have little confidence in anything that goes on at the club, there is no honesty coming from the club. Fed up of it.
Fed up of hearing how committed the board are, yet delivering bugger all.
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Post by baggins on Apr 2, 2020 7:50:27 GMT
Don't know the guy, never met Ken Masters... there are some on here that seem to think they know him well and the inner workings of his brain. Reading the statement is not good and shows what sort of state we are in at the club. I too have little confidence in anything that goes on at the club, there is no honesty coming from the club. Fed up of it. Fed up of hearing how committed the board are, yet delivering bugger all. You didn't see any honesty in Waels recent e-mail?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 8:37:52 GMT
So I presume the SC aren't going to take the club to court anymore then? I wonder why? Because Al, they are clueless.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 2, 2020 8:40:17 GMT
So I presume the SC aren't going to take the club to court anymore then? I wonder why? Because Al, they are clueless. Or the cause is hopeless.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:03:40 GMT
Because Al, they are clueless. Or the cause is hopeless. It was, they should have known that rather than pander to Master's ego, which makes them clueless
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 2, 2020 9:08:03 GMT
Agree with your point, but it’s Wael’s (Al’Qadi) money we rely on to survive and he deserves to be shown a modicum of respect for that alone. Regardless whether you agree with the way he’s running the show or not. If KM and his weasels want to try and kick the legs from under the club you would like to think they had a bundle of cash and provided a planned alternative that they present to the SC and the wider fan base as an alternative. But they don’t and never had. It’s more fantasist than they accuse our owner of being. Instead they decided to be underhand, Snakey and snide in an attempt to turn fans against the club, to indict our owner in a smear campaign which even the press weren’t interested in and to create angles for their own benefit. I’m glad it failed on them. I admit KM has done lots for BRFC. But ego and ambition overshadowed his good works and his ability as a fit and proper director. You do realise if Wael hadn't ran up £16m debts during his tenure we wouldn't need his money to survive? As far as KM failing Wael hasn't led us out of the other side of CV yet. What the hell happened last weekend when apparently two new directors disappeared even before they were announced, what was that all about? Oh absolutely I do and I’m not saying for one minute I agree with it. Huge mistakes have been made. But alas that’s where we are and we need Wael and he’s prepared to continue his investment.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 2, 2020 9:08:43 GMT
Because Al, they are clueless. Or the cause is hopeless. One and the same thing HTE.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Apr 2, 2020 9:14:04 GMT
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Apr 2, 2020 9:46:20 GMT
Oh dear. What a mess. Dwayne need to respond to this surely. Are the supporters club accusing the football club of stealing money? Why not get the shares (receipt as Jim put it) when money was paid? That’s how receipts work. More lawyers?
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