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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 3, 2020 18:49:08 GMT
The alleged non delivery of Supporters share certificates/Receipts would be a serious issue which may be Fraudulent. Nice to see someone is paying attention. It could well be it. By the way moderators, I do think that any moderator calling a contributor a Special lady garden should at least be made to give up his moderating role. If it was factually incorrect I might well be inclined to do something about it Brian. RD has tonight come off being a mod. See that was his last hurrah. And what a way to go. Feel free to hit the complain button to see if another mod will assist you.
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Post by gasincider on Apr 3, 2020 18:49:14 GMT
Are you aware of the contents of the letter? Have they accused him of not being fit and proper? Well? Are you hinting that you have seen the letter? You are insinuating you know. No I haven't. Knew nowt about it. I assume he has as he keeps mentioning fit and proper person being in it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 3, 2020 18:59:44 GMT
Nice to see someone is paying attention. It could well be it. By the way moderators, I do think that any moderator calling a contributor a Special lady garden should at least be made to give up his moderating role. If it was factually incorrect I might well be inclined to do something about it Brian. RD has tonight come off being a mod. See that was his last hurrah. And what a way to go. Feel free to hit the complain button to see if another mod will assist you. Are there any left?
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Post by swissgas on Apr 3, 2020 19:03:37 GMT
You are right there Hugo and I agree the two groups do need their heads knocking together. But, as Oldie posted yesterday, if you look at Companies House records you will see that although share scheme money has been paid over to the club no new shares have been allocated since 2017. So why have they waited 3 years? 3 months would have ample time to allow the club to have resolved that issue. And all the while KM said nothing. I think the Supporters Club position in that respect is understandable but they don't seem capable of putting their side across in a clear and concise way. If you were kept waiting for something which you were due to receive but it wasn't materially important at the time you wouldn't rush into a confrontation. But after starting with gentle reminders and then going through all the obvious steps culminating in solicitors letters then, if you still didn't receive what you were due, you would have a duty to the share scheme contributors to do something more radical. Having said that I can well believe that for someone like Ken there would be a balancing act between doing the right thing at the right time and prejudicing the place on the Board which he coveted. So he may well have been reluctant to "upset the apple cart" too soon for fear of prejudicing his position which would certainly be a selfish line to take. Although I don't know Ken I do tend to agree with the criticism he has faced for a long time about poor fulfillment of his role as fans Director. In fact what I find sad about both the statement from Ken and the statement from Wael is that they betray a character flaw of being unwilling to admit their failings. Ken's statement would have been much stronger if he had started by coming clean and accepted that he had not served the wider fanbase well and Wael's would have been much stronger if he had started by taking responsibility for causing our horrendous financial position instead of weakly making the excuse that other clubs are in a bad way as well. We have a problem at Rovers and we need younger, stronger and more dynamic people to help solve it.
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Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2020 19:08:02 GMT
Sounds like an internal fight to me , well kind of internal , as the director who has probably started this has left. More rumours , sh** stirring and nastiness with sh**e loads of pages on here with people arguing over stuff they’ve got no solid evidence on.
Just like normal times then really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
No idea who he actually is in real life but i believe it was somebody of that name that put on facebook that the UWE stadium project had fallen through. This forced the club to put out a late night statement on the website confirming this was true. An "in the know" poster who actually was in the know if my memory serves me right?
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Post by timsburygas on Apr 3, 2020 19:14:16 GMT
Thing that angers me the most is Ken Masters and the SC think they represent us, they don’t, used to be a sc member and share scheme member, but the represention on both was useless.. When Higgs and co took the club right to the edge with the wongo loan, where were they ? Masters was sat on the board ! Why did they stay silent ? They like to be In The Know, Glory hunters, ive done this I’ve done that, b***ocks. Then Masters got so far in with Hamer you could only see the soles of his shoes. People like the ITk ‘s on here help there cause, sowing discord among the fan base in ego boosting statements that they know what’s going on, sad sad b*stArds the lot of them. Football club would better without them.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 3, 2020 19:16:36 GMT
Surely this is 2 days late ffs it's all getting a trifle embarrassing, OTIB must be wetting their pants at most of you, playground bantz.
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Post by lavalamp on Apr 3, 2020 19:19:56 GMT
Are you hinting that you have seen the letter? You are insinuating you know. No I haven't. Knew nowt about it. I assume he has as he keeps mentioning fit and proper person being in it. Keeps mentioning it? So does saying it one time count as keeps mentioning it? Don't let the truth cloud your judgement 😉
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:24:20 GMT
My main question is what are they trying to get out of it?
It's not as if the EFL can "sack" Wael! My understanding is that there is nothing they can do, so again what are they trying to get out of it?
The alleged non delivery of Supporters share certificates/Receipts would be a serious issue which may be Fraudulent. Not necessarily so if the share capital on the balance sheet reflects the money out in and the Annual Return is updated every year to reflect the number of shares owned.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2020 19:40:34 GMT
Anybody remember back in the 60s when the club and the sc fell out back to the future then I do remember it. Eric Godfrey was head of the SC then. Took a few years to resolve it but can’t remember how. UTG! edit: thanks to swissgas and dragonfly for giving more info.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Apr 3, 2020 19:50:26 GMT
Who knows what the SC has on the owners but I am surprised most on here think they are out of order with this statement. I think Wael has silenced and got rid of any members of the club that doesn't follow his way and from what I've seen in the past 4 years his way is a conveyor belt of let downs! MAYBE the SC know what most fans have felt is true regarding the owners and fans of the club like Masters has every right to speak out and let us all know if something terrible is happening for our clubs future.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 3, 2020 19:56:37 GMT
Who knows what the SC has on the owners but I am surprised most on here think they are out of order with this statement. I think Wael has silenced and got rid of any members of the club that doesn't follow his way and from what I've seen in the past 4 years his way is a conveyor belt of let downs! MAYBE the SC know what most fans have felt is true regarding the owners and fans of the club like Masters has every right to speak out and let us all know if something terrible is happening for our clubs future. Yeah I agree and the very best way to do that is to drip feed cryptic bullshit and innuendo via a nameless couple of people deemed special enough to be told everything thats going on just so long as they dont actually tell the rest of us plebs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:58:48 GMT
Anyone see the irony in the fact that the supporters club are reporting Wael, under the fit and proper persons rules? Pot, kettle, black. Yes, the same well run supporters club under the leadership of Masters and Chappell that were so incompetent as to allow a six figure sum of supporters club funds to disappear over a prolonged period without even noticing. Where were the checks and balances that any reasonably well run organisation would install? They are pathetic and now trying to ruin the club. I've cut up my membership card and won't be renewing.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2020 20:03:45 GMT
Who knows what the SC has on the owners but I am surprised most on here think they are out of order with this statement. I think Wael has silenced and got rid of any members of the club that doesn't follow his way and from what I've seen in the past 4 years his way is a conveyor belt of let downs! MAYBE the SC know what most fans have felt is true regarding the owners and fans of the club like Masters has every right to speak out and let us all know if something terrible is happening for our clubs future. Exactly. So why didn't he do it until he got kicked out of the club then? Pr1ck.
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Post by dragonfly on Apr 3, 2020 20:03:50 GMT
The delivery of share certs is paramount (if it is expected) and provides a conclusion to a transaction as you cannot have a situation whereby a company can decide for themselves if and when the owners of the shares can or cannot have their rightful shares certs. This would not be tolerated if it was a transaction to purchase shares on the LSE. If, as alleged, DS fail to deliver the Certs then the investors, Bristol Rovers Supporters, should be reimbursed in full with interest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 20:11:04 GMT
If this thread wasn't so serious this comment would be laughable. KM was removed with no reason given. Malicious prosecution? But on a more serious note, I hope to god nothing criminal has gone on, and I would like to think nothing has. If it's to do with the inept way the club is being run well that's something else. So who's behind this? Surely not village clowns Chappell, Masters, Hamer, Knowall, Harding and you? What do you actually intend doing if Wael now withdraws funding? Alternatively what happens if the EFL dismiss the charges, as surely there's no way back for any of you as Rovers supporters? Although surely the EFL have enough on their plates at present just keeping football generally in this country from going under rather than worry about internal politics at Rovers. Never as something been so badly timed as this farce. The sad actions of bitter old men.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2020 20:16:30 GMT
So who's behind this? Surely not village clowns Chappell, Masters, Hamer, Knowall, Harding and you? What do you actually intend doing if Wael now withdraws funding? Alternatively what happens if the EFL dismiss the charges, as surely there's no way back for any of you as Rovers supporters? Although surely the EFL have enough on their plates at present just keeping football generally in this country from going under rather than worry about internal politics at Rovers. Never as something been so badly timed as this farce. So Topper thinks I may be behind this. Thanks for the compliment. Didn't know I had any power let alone this much. I think it's you pal. There, fixed it for you. If Wael goes, I'll put millions in. What charges? Obviously you must have been involved because I'm not aware they'd charged him with anything. Apart from this , I can't find anything wrong with Toppers post The problem for you (not for any of us thankfully) is that you're so thick as pig sh** you can't lie in a straight line. Because you've got nothing going upstairs apart from your deluded Walter Mitty fantasies you can't remember the made up crap you've posted on here. Which really makes life simple for us because (again probably because you are cerebrally low functioning) you haven't realised that this is the internet and we can just look back at all the deluded bollocks you've written over the years which contradicts the other deluded bollocks you've written. How have you not figured out yet how you've destroyed your own credibility several times over? Oh yes ... because you have the cognitive capacity of a gastropod.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 20:17:45 GMT
Look in the mirror dickhead, you’ll find what you’re looking for. Stay classy guys. OAMAAM
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Post by orgasmic on Apr 3, 2020 20:18:26 GMT
Doubt it matters - they'll no doubt just make up something disgraceful like they did the last time they reported him for something.... When and what did they report him for previously? Don’t be an itk wum...share what you know!
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