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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Nov 13, 2014 12:46:51 GMT
What a load of old tripe. If the players are trawling the net and finding that fans are moaning about them then that's there problem. The net is full of trolls and people attention seeking, looking for a rise. Maybe they should judge the majority of fans views on the reception that they recieve on match day which in my opinion, is still very positive. I don't think we as fans can show loyalty to the team anymore than we have been of late. Travelling in numbers and generating great atmospheres, even when the entertainment has been poor. First home game for a month on Saturday. They should be concentrating on that and not going down the buckle route of tarring all fans with the same brush. Personally I think he has done a smart thing. I can only speak for myself but I think that on Saturday I will be getting behind the team even more than I usually do, just to show the majority do not represent the morons. |
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Post by Lambert's Right Boot on Nov 13, 2014 13:33:02 GMT
Some fans won't ever be pleased.
We can't win every game, it's as simple as that. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. We're going to drop points, even to part-timers (who happen to make up the majority of the division), fans are just going to have to deal with that. Alright, getting a 0-0 draw at Alfreton is hardly impressive but is it really that bad you need to try and board the team bus? No.
I personally think Clarke has shown that sticking with the manager can be a blessing. If we sacked him after the first week of the season who would we have brought in? Someone with the same experience as Clarke without their own squad, we'd probably have been worse off now. Clarke has had it tough, he has such massive expectations from fans that a draw is considered like we lost the FA Cup final or something. He's had his playing budget axed by 50%, which is a massive contribution in us missing out on better players and probably this elusive 20-30 goal a season striker.
We're 4th in the league, a lot better than I thought we'd be and Clarke had my full backing. We have a large portion of the season left, automatic promotion is still within reach. A play off finish to build on for next season would still not be the end of the world.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 13, 2014 14:13:47 GMT
What a load of old tripe. If the players are trawling the net and finding that fans are moaning about them then that's there problem. The net is full of trolls and people attention seeking, looking for a rise. Maybe they should judge the majority of fans views on the reception that they recieve on match day which in my opinion, is still very positive. I don't think we as fans can show loyalty to the team anymore than we have been of late. Travelling in numbers and generating great atmospheres, even when the entertainment has been poor. First home game for a month on Saturday. They should be concentrating on that and not going down the buckle route of tarring all fans with the same brush. I agree. I condemn fans hurling abuse at players or anyone from BRFC but we have the right to criticise and give our views. What really worries me about all this is Clarke digging up activities from FOUR months ago !? I think he has really been feeling the pressure and our performances are getting worse (results to an extent too !) - this is what he should be focusing on. He's got to earn his corn in the sense of the quality of our play and tactics he usese and the players from the keeper onwards have to step up too !
The supporters at Home games have been good but there is no buzz at games (FGR last time I went) and Clarke needs to ask himself "Am I getting the crowd going by taking the game to the opposition ?" - I haven't really seen that since Halifax first half.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 14:19:30 GMT
What a load of old tripe. If the players are trawling the net and finding that fans are moaning about them then that's there problem. The net is full of trolls and people attention seeking, looking for a rise. Maybe they should judge the majority of fans views on the reception that they recieve on match day which in my opinion, is still very positive. I don't think we as fans can show loyalty to the team anymore than we have been of late. Travelling in numbers and generating great atmospheres, even when the entertainment has been poor. First home game for a month on Saturday. They should be concentrating on that and not going down the buckle route of tarring all fans with the same brush. I agree. I condemn fans hurling abuse at players or anyone from BRFC but we have the right to criticise and give our views. What really worries me about all this is Clarke digging up activities from FOUR months ago !? I think he has really been feeling the pressure and our performances are getting worse (results to an extent too !) - this is what he should be focusing on. He's got to earn his corn in the sense of the quality of our play and tactics he usese and the players from the keeper onwards have to step up too !
The supporters at Home games have been good but there is no buzz at games (FGR last time I went) and Clarke needs to ask himself "Am I getting the crowd going by taking the game to the opposition ?" - I haven't really seen that since Halifax first half.
They have? Atmosphere at the ground has been non-existent all season. The only time the crowd makes a noise is after a goal or if there is a misplaced pass or something along those lines. The non-exsistent atmosphere at FGR in particular was rediculous, we hadn't lost a home game all season and were outsang by a group of 20 fans jumping up and down. People say we shouldn't lose to these clubs, we shouldn't be out supported either then? |
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Post by wreckless on Nov 13, 2014 14:42:25 GMT
I would have thought it's pretty obvious why a significant number of fans are expressing their frustration. We were in League 1 not so long ago. Now we're not even in the Football League. TrueAs a result, we're effectively paying the same amount to see a grossly inferior product. True
At this level, we're OK, but we're not exactly walking all over the opposition or playing attractive football. Well - that's my opinionAre we supposed to be deliriously happy that we managed a draw this week against a team of part timers , and couldn't even score a goal? Don't think soIt's unlikely (but still possible, I accept) that we will win the league. With my rose-tinted spectacles onIF we get to the play-offs we have a 25% chance of promotion. True - Mathematically assuming all 4 teams are of roughly equal abilityWe have a manager who took us out of the League and has achieved nothing at this level. True (But rightly/wrongly he has been given the chance to change this)Who can be surprised that some fans wanted him out after one week of the season? Well I'm not - but I may be alone in thisSince then, he's done nothing to convince me that he will take us back up. Matter of opinion (although some people on here disagree with me I respect their right to an opinion - although I would prefer to have my opinion respected rather than dismissed as "tosh")And why is he bringing up now something that happened 3 months ago? I don't knowPeople who try and invade team buses deserve what's coming to them ie I DON'T CONDONE IT, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for feeling angry and frustrated. Frankly, we deserve better than this. Matter of opinion but Really? Utter, utter tosh. Where's the tosh in this - see my comments? |
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 13, 2014 14:53:18 GMT
Rovers Facebook page. Some of the numpties that post on there are priceless. Yes, that page worries me. Looked at it after yesterday's council ruling. Every single post I saw just ignored the ruling and moaned or laughed about stadium failure. I can't tell Gas from teds on there most of the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 14:57:41 GMT
What a load of old tripe. If the players are trawling the net and finding that fans are moaning about them then that's there problem. The net is full of trolls and people attention seeking, looking for a rise. Maybe they should judge the majority of fans views on the reception that they recieve on match day which in my opinion, is still very positive. I don't think we as fans can show loyalty to the team anymore than we have been of late. Travelling in numbers and generating great atmospheres, even when the entertainment has been poor. First home game for a month on Saturday. They should be concentrating on that and not going down the buckle route of tarring all fans with the same brush. I don't think that DC was referring to players trawling the net to find abuse, but more so the abuse that they hear at the games. Quite often this starts if we haven't taken the lead after 5 minutes! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 15:13:11 GMT
The truth hurts ... he alluded to this last week remarking on Forums Negativity and Social Media in general too.
Come on, read the threads, read some of the posts. The fanbase has changed, and like it or not we're becoming exactly what we used to berate the city fans for.
Buckle was right about some of our so-called supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 15:41:59 GMT
He has a point.
I watch highlights (due to living in Bournemouth) from that "BristolRoversFan" on YouTube, and every time we drop points the fans boo and hurl abuse.
We're in the play offs ffs. I understand we've had a hard few years but get behind the lads for once.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 16:12:23 GMT
Rovers Facebook page. Some of the numpties that post on there are priceless. Yes, that page worries me. Looked at it after yesterday's council ruling. Every single post I saw just ignored the ruling and moaned or laughed about stadium failure. I can't tell Gas from teds on there most of the time. Rovers closed down the Official forum in favour of the even more anonymous and faceless Twitter where anyone can be a "Rovers fan" for the day and post all the sh** they want unchallenged. I don't see a large amount of negativity on here really, and when there is its debated openly. Pretty much everyone here still has some concerns and we are all still very hurt by the last few seasons. Again, the club could have been much better at addressing this BEFORE the season started by apologizing for their mistakes instead of just blaming John Ward. It's a crying shame DC and the current squad are getting a sh**ty time of it and a few fans need to get a grip but imo this is just old problems that were handled poorly by the BOD coming back to bite them. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 13, 2014 17:06:51 GMT
Just listened to the actual interview...
Felt really angry listening to it. A few idiots are embarrassing it for the rest of us and seem to be trying their hardest to stop us progressing. It may explains why Darrell has been quite subdued overall. I do wish that Darrell and the players could see that it is only a minority though although I appreciate that is possibly difficult when the angriest ones are shouting the loudest and coming to the fore. We are in the process of rebuilding this club, kicking these idiots out of our club might end up having to be part of that progress.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:01:27 GMT
Imo the best way to shut people up is to prove them wrong not give an ott interview criticising the fans that will no doubt be taken amiss by the same people who dislike him ?
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 13, 2014 18:05:18 GMT
You can't kick people out for booing or being negative in what they shout, only for vile personal abuse. Otherwise we'll end up like American cheerleaders.
There is a place for booing etc. When players have poor attitude, don't put in the effort, or when things are just so incompetent that fans have a right to show disgust in the very limited ways available to them. Clearly, with a team in 4th place and working hard all over the pitch, Bristol Rovers 2014 is not one of those teams.
Although that Mildenhall bloke stands about a lot. Couldn't he do some press-ups or sprints when the ball's up the other end? What are we paying him for? Tosser.
Ooh sorry - just slipped into Facebook mode.
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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 13, 2014 18:12:15 GMT
Imo the best way to shut people up is to prove them wrong not give an ott interview criticising the fans that will no doubt be taken amiss by the same people who dislike him ? Maybe - but hasn't DC done that, by taking us to 4th? If fans can see that we are on track to be at least in the playoffs and still they give close-range abuse to individuals, DC probably feels he has a right to point out the injustice. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:19:15 GMT
We are hard to beat but by no means flying. Plenty still to prove so he should get his head down. You dont get promotion in november.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:19:42 GMT
Never understood the whole 'we were playing Norwich, Southampton, Leeds six years ago' argument - what's the relevance?
DC is in a difficult situation, but the fans still need to get behind the players. Feels a bit like we're going through what Luton went through after their relegation, people aren't willing to accept that we are where we are, even 20 odd games into the season.
Having said that, the negative bunch (and I mean unnecessarily negative, coming out with stuff like the above when we beat Telford 1-0 for example) are a minority. Not sure the rest of the fan base should be targeted for that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:22:08 GMT
We are hard to beat but by no means flying. Plenty still to prove so he should get his head down. You dont get promotion in november. No you don't, but that to me suggests there is room for improvement. Shows we can go on a run like Mansfield did a couple of years ago. Often teams get promoted when they've got a good spirit about them - idiotic acts like the 'bus incident' and constant abuse of individual players when we're in the play-offs won't help generate any kind of positive atmosphere in and around the squad. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 13, 2014 18:25:52 GMT
I think DC and the players need to grow a pair .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 18:42:37 GMT
We are hard to beat but by no means flying. Plenty still to prove so he should get his head down. You dont get promotion in november. No you don't, but that to me suggests there is room for improvement. Shows we can go on a run like Mansfield did a couple of years ago. Often teams get promoted when they've got a good spirit about them - idiotic acts like the 'bus incident' and constant abuse of individual players when we're in the play-offs won't help generate any kind of positive atmosphere in and around the squad. I agree but the negativity needs addressing as i said. The anger is at the plight of the club wrongly directed at the players. The club needs to do more to get people on board. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:17:01 GMT
I 100% agree with you Dins.
By hiding behind JW and failing to complete an honest and open review the Board left a sore to fester.
It was only a matter of time (or results/performances) before the unresolved anger reared again.
It's not even DCs fault but failing to score enough cost us everything and now its happening again.
Many fans are genuinely scared for the future of the club because there is little trust in the people running it that this year is going to be any different because there is no evidence they know where they went wrong last time.
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