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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 8:30:07 GMT
Just to give the debate some context. Think the club should also be asking this question to form their plans
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 15:24:17 GMT
The club cannot ask the question because it has to act on medical advice.
As well as government orders/instructions.
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2020 16:41:32 GMT
It seems to me like you’re just trying to prove the obvious. Of course people won’t want to attend spectator sport if the virus is still out there with no vaccine, if you do, you’re just putting others at risk. That’s why discussions are taking place to try and get the season started behind closed doors or work out an alternative if that can’t be achieved.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 16:42:00 GMT
The club cannot ask the question because it has to act on medical advice. As well as government orders/instructions. I think the club has to ask the question because these are uncharted waters. If, as it would appear, the majority wouldn’t attend games then they can budget accordingly or lobby the EFL for a certain course of action or financial aide. There’s nothing wrong with asking your customers if they’d attend games if the government see fit to remove the restrictions. Just because restrictions are removed it doesn’t mean everyone will be confident to return to normal activities
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 16:47:51 GMT
It seems to me like you’re just trying to prove the obvious. Of course people won’t want to attend spectator sport if the virus is still out there with no vaccine. That’s why discussions are taking place to try and get the season started behind closed doors or work out an alternative if that can’t be achieved. I’m not sure I’m trying prove anything just asking the question. So you’re saying that it’s been agreed that there will be no games with spectators in attendance for the rest of the year. I’ve not seen that decision announced anywhere yet.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 16:50:01 GMT
It seems to me like you’re just trying to prove the obvious. Of course people won’t want to attend spectator sport if the virus is still out there with no vaccine. That’s why discussions are taking place to try and get the season started behind closed doors or work out an alternative if that can’t be achieved. It seems 5 out of 15 would
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 25, 2020 16:50:31 GMT
As a father of young children and a grandson of elderly persons, I wouldn’t put myself in a position where I was at risk of catching covid to watch a game of football. I would judge anyone who would to be perfectly honest.
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2020 16:56:00 GMT
It seems to me like you’re just trying to prove the obvious. Of course people won’t want to attend spectator sport if the virus is still out there with no vaccine. That’s why discussions are taking place to try and get the season started behind closed doors or work out an alternative if that can’t be achieved. I’m not sure I’m trying prove anything just asking the question. So you’re saying that it’s been agreed that there will be no games with spectators in attendance for the rest of the year. I’ve not seen that decision announced anywhere yet. No, that’s not what I’ve said, how have you come to that assumption? The poll doesn’t make much sense because the government aren’t give people the choice of going to a packed stadium with untreatable Coronavirus around, if they did that they would be risking a second spike. Football will only return when the safety of spectators and playing staff can be assured. I love watching Rovers and can’t wait for the football season to return but there’s no way I’m going anywhere near a football stadium right now or even in the future if it’s still out there and putting myself and others at risk.
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Post by matealotblue on Apr 25, 2020 17:04:19 GMT
I’m not sure I’m trying prove anything just asking the question. So you’re saying that it’s been agreed that there will be no games with spectators in attendance for the rest of the year. I’ve not seen that decision announced anywhere yet. No, that’s not what I’ve said, how have you come to that assumption? The poll doesn’t make much sense because the government aren’t give people the choice of going to a packed stadium with untreatable Coronavirus around, if they did that they would be risking a second spike. Football will only return when the safety of spectators and playing staff can be assured.Going to be a long wait to get spectators in any stadium....football or any other sport. No way it can happen in any near future scenario without mass testing (still risky even then) or a vaccine (some way off yet). End of....back to the lockdown folks...
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 17:14:04 GMT
I’m not sure I’m trying prove anything just asking the question. So you’re saying that it’s been agreed that there will be no games with spectators in attendance for the rest of the year. I’ve not seen that decision announced anywhere yet. No, that’s not what I’ve said, how have you come to that assumption? The poll doesn’t make much sense because the government aren’t give people the choice of going to a packed stadium with untreatable Coronavirus around, if they did that they would be risking a second spike. Football will only return when the safety of spectators and playing staff can be assured. I love watching Rovers and can’t wait for the football season to return but there’s no way I’m going anywhere near a football stadium right now or even in the future if it’s still out there and putting myself and others at risk. I’m not so sure that the government aren’t going to allow sporting events to take place with supporters in grounds prior to a vaccine being found. Looking at the stores that are starting to open I think the government will be encouraging businesses to get back to work as soon as they can. The point of the poll was to ascertain what people would do if they had the choice prior to vaccine. Judging by the number of people already flocking to B&Q which clearly isn’t an essential trip I think coming out of this is going to get very messy
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Post by matealotblue on Apr 25, 2020 17:18:55 GMT
No, that’s not what I’ve said, how have you come to that assumption? The poll doesn’t make much sense because the government aren’t give people the choice of going to a packed stadium with untreatable Coronavirus around, if they did that they would be risking a second spike. Football will only return when the safety of spectators and playing staff can be assured. I love watching Rovers and can’t wait for the football season to return but there’s no way I’m going anywhere near a football stadium right now or even in the future if it’s still out there and putting myself and others at risk. I’m not so sure that the government aren’t going to allow sporting events to take place with supporters in grounds prior to a vaccine being found. Looking at the stores that are starting to open I think the government will be encouraging businesses to get back to work as soon as they can. The point of the poll was to ascertain what people would do if they had the choice prior to vaccine. Judging by the number of people already flocking to B&Q which clearly isn’t an essential trip I think coming out of this is going to get very messy So social distancing outside the ground but not inside....hmmm🤔
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Post by 32 on Apr 25, 2020 17:26:35 GMT
Unfortunately my thoughts are.... We can't stay "caged up" forever. Looks like covid-19 is here to stay...."if" and when theres a vaccine.🤞 Like polio,TB and other decreases were before. Life had to carry on.
It will be part of life. 🙈
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 17:28:02 GMT
I’m not so sure that the government aren’t going to allow sporting events to take place with supporters in grounds prior to a vaccine being found. Looking at the stores that are starting to open I think the government will be encouraging businesses to get back to work as soon as they can. The point of the poll was to ascertain what people would do if they had the choice prior to vaccine. Judging by the number of people already flocking to B&Q which clearly isn’t an essential trip I think coming out of this is going to get very messy So social distancing outside the ground but not inside....hmmm🤔 That’s it, just like in the supermarkets
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2020 17:31:14 GMT
No, that’s not what I’ve said, how have you come to that assumption? The poll doesn’t make much sense because the government aren’t give people the choice of going to a packed stadium with untreatable Coronavirus around, if they did that they would be risking a second spike. Football will only return when the safety of spectators and playing staff can be assured. I love watching Rovers and can’t wait for the football season to return but there’s no way I’m going anywhere near a football stadium right now or even in the future if it’s still out there and putting myself and others at risk. I’m not so sure that the government aren’t going to allow sporting events to take place with supporters in grounds prior to a vaccine being found. Looking at the stores that are starting to open I think the government will be encouraging businesses to get back to work as soon as they can. The point of the poll was to ascertain what people would do if they had the choice prior to vaccine. Judging by the number of people already flocking to B&Q which clearly isn’t an essential trip I think coming out of this is going to get very messy Spectator sports won't happen until a vaccine is found and available or Coronavirus numbers are low enough to not be considered a threat, even in Germany where the situation is much more under control, authorities aren't even contemplating letting the crowds back in. People will die if stadiums reopen to supporters with Coronavirus infections still happening in the UK, thats the reality of it. B+Q is an essential trip in some circumstances if it is to restore utilities or fix things that could potentially be hazardous. If it's just to buy a nice plant for the Garden then it's not obviously.
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Post by matealotblue on Apr 25, 2020 17:33:28 GMT
So social distancing outside the ground but not inside....hmmm🤔 That’s it, just like in the supermarkets Not sure you can compare the controlled social distancing currently practised in most supermarkets with the uncontrolled standing shoulder to shoulder (ish) in the West Enclosure (or other areas) for prolonged periods? Or sitting next to each other in the seated areas.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 17:37:51 GMT
I’m not so sure that the government aren’t going to allow sporting events to take place with supporters in grounds prior to a vaccine being found. Looking at the stores that are starting to open I think the government will be encouraging businesses to get back to work as soon as they can. The point of the poll was to ascertain what people would do if they had the choice prior to vaccine. Judging by the number of people already flocking to B&Q which clearly isn’t an essential trip I think coming out of this is going to get very messy Spectator sports won't happen until a vaccine is found and available or Coronavirus numbers are low enough to not be considered a threat, even in Germany where the situation is much more under control, authorities aren't even contemplating letting the crowds back in. People will die if stadiums reopen to supporters with Coronavirus infections still happening in the UK, thats the reality of it. B+Q is an essential trip in some circumstances if it is to restore utilities or fix things that could potentially be hazardous. If it's just to buy a nice plant for the Garden then it's not obviously. Don’t disagree that B&Q could be essential but that’s not how it’s being used by a large proportion of visitors. The rules are only going to get muddier as well. If there’s no prospect of playing in front of spectators before there’s a vaccine or this has died out to a manageable level why the hell are we selling season tickets
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2020 17:43:53 GMT
Spectator sports won't happen until a vaccine is found and available or Coronavirus numbers are low enough to not be considered a threat, even in Germany where the situation is much more under control, authorities aren't even contemplating letting the crowds back in. People will die if stadiums reopen to supporters with Coronavirus infections still happening in the UK, thats the reality of it. B+Q is an essential trip in some circumstances if it is to restore utilities or fix things that could potentially be hazardous. If it's just to buy a nice plant for the Garden then it's not obviously. Don’t disagree that B&Q could be essential but that’s not how it’s being used by a large proportion of visitors. The rules are only going to get muddier as well. If there’s no prospect of playing in front of spectators before there’s a vaccine or this has died out to a manageable level why the hell are we selling season tickets Because the season tickets are for the season that at the moment starts in August and continues on to April/May of next year. I think there's a general expectation that the situation will be more manageable then and some spectator sport will be played in that period. A lot of things will change between now and the summer and I'm sure a fair compromise will be reached between the club and renewing ST holders.
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Post by philbemmygas on Apr 25, 2020 17:49:39 GMT
Spectator sports won't happen until a vaccine is found and available or Coronavirus numbers are low enough to not be considered a threat, even in Germany where the situation is much more under control, authorities aren't even contemplating letting the crowds back in. People will die if stadiums reopen to supporters with Coronavirus infections still happening in the UK, thats the reality of it. B+Q is an essential trip in some circumstances if it is to restore utilities or fix things that could potentially be hazardous. If it's just to buy a nice plant for the Garden then it's not obviously. Don’t disagree that B&Q could be essential but that’s not how it’s being used by a large proportion of visitors. The rules are only going to get muddier as well. If there’s no prospect of playing in front of spectators before there’s a vaccine or this has died out to a manageable level why the hell are we selling season tickets I actually visited my local B&Q (Imperial Park) on Thursday, social distancing is in the main adhered to. The stores are controlling entrance numbers and also exit via the tills. Regardless of if the visit is "essential" 50-100 people in a large store does not compare to 6-7000 people in a sport stadia. Currently all discussions on the likelihood of football restarting are about behind closed doors, we will not be at the Mem in the near future.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 25, 2020 18:25:09 GMT
Don’t disagree that B&Q could be essential but that’s not how it’s being used by a large proportion of visitors. The rules are only going to get muddier as well. If there’s no prospect of playing in front of spectators before there’s a vaccine or this has died out to a manageable level why the hell are we selling season tickets Because the season tickets are for the season that at the moment starts in August and continues on to April/May of next year. I think there's a general expectation that the situation will be more manageable then and some spectator sport will be played in that period. A lot of things will change between now and the summer and I'm sure a fair compromise will be reached between the club and renewing ST holders. So it seems reasonable to ask who’d be prepared to attend. The question in the poll
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 25, 2020 18:38:31 GMT
That’s it, just like in the supermarkets Not sure you can compare the controlled social distancing currently practised in most supermarkets with the uncontrolled standing shoulder to shoulder (ish) in the West Enclosure (or other areas) for prolonged periods? Or sitting next to each other in the seated areas. Every time I go to a supermarket or go somewhere to get essentials people flout the 2m rule. They either don’t know what 2m is or their too stupid to follow the rules and have their heads in the clouds. Sadly it’s more the latter. Drives me wild, because it’s not hard to follow. For what it’s worth if we discover coronavirus isn’t as deadly as we think it is as there’s loads of asymptotic cases or if the cases are brought to a small enough level then I’m sure we could safely resume attended fixtures but we won’t be completing 19/20 that way I’m sure. I couldn’t vote either way because right now we just don’t know enough and we really don’t know what’s around the corner. Regardless let’s hope this all gets sorted out sooner or later for our physical, mental and economic well being.
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