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Post by graceyboy on May 16, 2020 11:02:58 GMT
What about the test where they scan the forehead which detects raised temperatures? If its too high then they don't come in to the ground. Take a squad of 20 with you in case a couple drop out? I'm not saying that football should start immediately. Actually, I'm in agreement with you that there is no rush to restart but I would like to see the season finished properly for the integrity of the sport. If it gets finished in September over a 3 week period and the new season starts a week later then so be it. I don't get this idea of having to wrap things up so quickly The issue is the temperature checks don’t cover asymtomatic people who are particularly dangerous spreaders. Another issue is having a plan if the restarted season stalls due to infections. For example if the next few fixtures are cancelled for us due to clubs being unable to play. How long can we afford to pay players for doing nothing. If the infection kicks off as the R number increases and the country lockdowns what would the league do then. However highly you rate that risk it is a reasonable possibility and could be disastrous for some clubs without EFL financial support. As I understand it, the decision had been made to finish the season with no more games but delayed due to the fear of legal action from the stroppy six. They’re now weighing up the cost of funding a remainder of the season which they would have to underwrite as some clubs will vote against it, against the financial costs of defending a case against the stroppy six. The accountants and lawyers have had their weekend off cancelled prior to Monday’s meeting. I guess we're the lucky ones in that results-wise, whatever decision is made is not going to affect us or other clubs in mid table obscurity
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Post by fanatical on May 16, 2020 11:29:22 GMT
The issue is the temperature checks don’t cover asymtomatic people who are particularly dangerous spreaders. Another issue is having a plan if the restarted season stalls due to infections. For example if the next few fixtures are cancelled for us due to clubs being unable to play. How long can we afford to pay players for doing nothing. If the infection kicks off as the R number increases and the country lockdowns what would the league do then. However highly you rate that risk it is a reasonable possibility and could be disastrous for some clubs without EFL financial support. As I understand it, the decision had been made to finish the season with no more games but delayed due to the fear of legal action from the stroppy six. They’re now weighing up the cost of funding a remainder of the season which they would have to underwrite as some clubs will vote against it, against the financial costs of defending a case against the stroppy six. The accountants and lawyers have had their weekend off cancelled prior to Monday’s meeting. I guess we're the lucky ones in that results-wise, whatever decision is made is not going to affect us or other clubs in mid table obscurity As in 'we the football club'? or 'we the supporters'? because by now everyone must surely agree they are two different things?
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Post by gashead1981 on May 16, 2020 12:32:29 GMT
The logical thing to do is promote Barrow and have an extra relegation the following year and apply this to all leagues.
Of course outcomes “could” be different in real time, but that isn’t possible and the ppg does apply a bit of logic to its algorithm.
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Post by legas on May 16, 2020 12:38:39 GMT
Promoting Barrow shouldn’t be a problem with Bury’s place to fill.
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Post by hardingegas on May 16, 2020 21:53:14 GMT
Unbelievable decisions being made by individual leagues. How can they decide without the whole structure of the EFL being considered as a whole.
I'm with the poster who said the season should be completed no matter how long it takes. We don't even know how or when 20/21 will start so why not continue with the outstanding fixtures until they are completed? As regards players being out of contract in July, does it really matter who's part of the squad in say August/September? It's still the same club v club whoever is available then.
Remember the old days before transfer windows? A squad at the end of a season was sometimes quite different to the one that started it.
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Post by peterparker on May 17, 2020 8:19:08 GMT
Unbelievable decisions being made by individual leagues. How can they decide without the whole structure of the EFL being considered as a whole. I'm with the poster who said the season should be completed no matter how long it takes. We don't even know how or when 20/21 will start so why not continue with the outstanding fixtures until they are completed? As regards players being out of contract in July, does it really matter who's part of the squad in say August/September? It's still the same club v club whoever is available then. Remember the old days before transfer windows? A squad at the end of a season was sometimes quite different to the one that started it. See i think the opposite. Playing costs will kill lower league clubs with no income. I would rather cancel/or do a PPG method until such time as it is safe to restart properly and cost effectively. Mothball clubs to try and protect them If the Prem play a season without relegation because the EFL dont play so be it
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Post by warehamgas on May 17, 2020 15:55:25 GMT
The EFL has become a total mess with all divisions looking to do something different. Blimey, I thought this was “the EFL.” One for all and all for one or something like that. That looks to have gone out of the window. I did think we should finish but this looks as if it has now gone out of the window so we need to end it with a system that promotes and relegates clubs as fairly as possible. PPG at home and PPG away and then recalculate what it might have been after all the games would have been “played.” Not perfect but perhaps as good an option as there can be.
In the end I don’t really mind who goes up or goes down from League 1 so long as Bolton go down. Blimey they got their original penalty, then they avoided anything for postponing their Donny game in September and now look as if they will avoid going down altogether. Pretty sure if that had been one of the “smaller” clubs they would have had the book thrown at them in terms of punishments.
UTG!
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Post by darkbluegas on May 17, 2020 17:29:39 GMT
it’s become so ridiculous I can see the EFL trying to organise a massive 5 a side penalty shoot out at Wembley to sort the league out.
Maybe not such a bad idea. A quick 5 penalties by two teams to represent the game that would have been played. Soon rattle through a hundred odd fixtures, done in an afternoon.
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Post by bluebiro on May 17, 2020 17:32:27 GMT
Soon as the players come back. The furlough stops. How are div 1 and 2 going to afford club wages with no income. Clubs would fold en masse.not a cat in hell chance games will be played.
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Post by onedaygas83 on May 17, 2020 17:44:11 GMT
Soon as the players come back. The furlough stops. How are div 1 and 2 going to afford club wages with no income. Clubs would fold en masse.not a cat in hell chance games will be played. totally agree and I can see as many as ten league clubs going bust and one could be ours!
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Post by graceyboy on May 17, 2020 20:56:52 GMT
Soon as the players come back. The furlough stops. How are div 1 and 2 going to afford club wages with no income. Clubs would fold en masse.not a cat in hell chance games will be played. totally agree and I can see as many as ten league clubs going bust and one could be ours! This is something we're going to have to consider for next season then when we will, in all likelihood, be playing all games behind closed doors with no gate income. I think a starter would be to reduce a professional playing staff from 35-40 to 25 max. Having no under 23 team, no u21 team and possibly no reserve team. Lots of our pros being 1st or 2nd year pros on low wages such as hargreaves, hoole, walker, Widderington etc. Reduce our back room staff by laying off 'head of recruitment' u23, u21 managers and trying to make academy coaches voluntary with only expenses paid. Skeleton staff of a manager,an assistant manager who doubles up as first team coach, 1x physio, 1x goalkeeping coach, x1 kit manager, x1 under 18 manager, x1 academy manager and a club doctor. Only a suggestion but something drastic has to be done to save money next season.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on May 18, 2020 6:48:46 GMT
This whole mess could be the end for a lot of clubs, but it may turn out to be the kick up the backside football had needed for years; players will no longer be able to hold clubs over a barrel, and costs should reduce as a result. A lot of players will be happy to just have a job.
On the subject of letting clubs vote on their own future. If you were a turkey, you'd cancel Christmas wouldn't you? We should never let clubs decide their own future.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on May 20, 2020 21:41:53 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2020 7:18:29 GMT
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