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Post by oldie on Dec 18, 2021 20:38:00 GMT
Christ If that's true Johnson is in even more trouble
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 19, 2021 0:22:48 GMT
Christ If that's true Johnson is in even more trouble Confirmed. Thought this bit telling: "Briefings have emerged recently suggesting that the UK may be about to change its stance on the involvement of the European Court of Justice. Whilst there is no direct claim this has contributed to Frost's exit, what Boris Johnson does next has the potential to add to his pile of political problems. For some Tory MPs, Lord Frost was seen as a guardian of Brexit, someone that could be relied on to deliver the clean break they desired. If his replacement is perceived as someone more prone to bending to the will of Brussels, that could agitate already irate backbenchers and sap more support from the Prime Minister. Former Downing Street adviser Nikki da Costa tweeted on Saturday that Lord Frost was "often the tempering voice advising the PM that a little more time was needed, or highlighting the complexity". But in politics, perception matters. And the loss of someone admired by the very members of the Conservative Party already beginning to doubt Boris Johnson's political abilities matters too." news.sky.com/story/lord-frosts-resignation-marks-a-chaotic-end-to-possibly-boris-johnsons-worst-week-as-pm-12499581
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Post by pirate on Dec 19, 2021 0:36:51 GMT
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 19, 2021 9:14:11 GMT
Christ If that's true Johnson is in even more trouble Confirmed. Thought this bit telling: "Briefings have emerged recently suggesting that the UK may be about to change its stance on the involvement of the European Court of Justice. Whilst there is no direct claim this has contributed to Frost's exit, what Boris Johnson does next has the potential to add to his pile of political problems. For some Tory MPs, Lord Frost was seen as a guardian of Brexit, someone that could be relied on to deliver the clean break they desired. If his replacement is perceived as someone more prone to bending to the will of Brussels, that could agitate already irate backbenchers and sap more support from the Prime Minister. Former Downing Street adviser Nikki da Costa tweeted on Saturday that Lord Frost was "often the tempering voice advising the PM that a little more time was needed, or highlighting the complexity". But in politics, perception matters. And the loss of someone admired by the very members of the Conservative Party already beginning to doubt Boris Johnson's political abilities matters too." news.sky.com/story/lord-frosts-resignation-marks-a-chaotic-end-to-possibly-boris-johnsons-worst-week-as-pm-12499581This is getting embarrassing now.
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Post by baggins on Dec 19, 2021 13:15:08 GMT
Confirmed. Thought this bit telling: "Briefings have emerged recently suggesting that the UK may be about to change its stance on the involvement of the European Court of Justice. Whilst there is no direct claim this has contributed to Frost's exit, what Boris Johnson does next has the potential to add to his pile of political problems. For some Tory MPs, Lord Frost was seen as a guardian of Brexit, someone that could be relied on to deliver the clean break they desired. If his replacement is perceived as someone more prone to bending to the will of Brussels, that could agitate already irate backbenchers and sap more support from the Prime Minister. Former Downing Street adviser Nikki da Costa tweeted on Saturday that Lord Frost was "often the tempering voice advising the PM that a little more time was needed, or highlighting the complexity". But in politics, perception matters. And the loss of someone admired by the very members of the Conservative Party already beginning to doubt Boris Johnson's political abilities matters too." news.sky.com/story/lord-frosts-resignation-marks-a-chaotic-end-to-possibly-boris-johnsons-worst-week-as-pm-12499581This is getting embarrassing now. This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together.
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Post by oldie on Dec 19, 2021 13:50:01 GMT
This is getting embarrassing now. This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together. The rot started in 2010.
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Post by baggins on Dec 19, 2021 13:54:41 GMT
This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together. The rot started in 2010. Yep.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 19, 2021 14:05:53 GMT
The battle lines are being drawn. The May local elections will be the big test, assuming he makes it that far. "Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries has been kicked out of a Conservative WhatsApp group after urging MPs to show the prime minister "a bit of loyalty". Messages shot around the "Clean Global Brexit" group - made up of over 100 Tory MPs - following the resignation of Brexit Minister Lord Frost on Saturday. After claims his exit was a "disaster" and a "hammer blow" for Boris Johnson, Ms Dorries called the PM "a hero". But former minister Steve Baker removed her, saying: "Enough is enough.". " www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59719162
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Post by francegas on Dec 19, 2021 14:35:01 GMT
This is getting embarrassing now. This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together. I think China might have some part in it.
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Post by francegas on Dec 19, 2021 14:36:24 GMT
This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together. The rot started in 2010. You mean after Labour virtually bankrupt the country ?
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Post by baggins on Dec 19, 2021 14:37:32 GMT
This lot have single handidly ruined this Country. God help who's next in trying to put it all back together. I think China might have some part in it. Nah, it's all our own doing. Well, it's all the Tory Govmt's doing.
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Post by baggins on Dec 19, 2021 14:38:27 GMT
You mean after Labour virtually bankrupt the country ? And then left it to the Tories to actually bankrupt us for 10 years?
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Post by yattongas on Dec 19, 2021 15:34:09 GMT
You mean after Labour virtually bankrupt the country ? Is that why the Conservative party has doubled the debt since then ? 🙄 Oh and tax take is at record levels . Other than ….. Go Boris ! 🇬🇧
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Post by francegas on Dec 19, 2021 15:41:56 GMT
You mean after Labour virtually bankrupt the country ? Is that why the Conservative party has doubled the debt since then ? 🙄 Oh and tax take is at record levels . Other than ….. Go Boris ! 🇬🇧 Didn't labour take the UK into recession, sold vast amount of gold reserves when the price of gold was at an all time low, virtually bought the banking industry to its knees etc etc etc. Maybe if there was some money left when the tories came to power debt wouldn't be double...christ even Liam Byrne left a note to the tories saying there was nothing left.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 19, 2021 15:57:18 GMT
Is that why the Conservative party has doubled the debt since then ? 🙄 Oh and tax take is at record levels . Other than ….. Go Boris ! 🇬🇧 Didn't labour take the UK into recession, sold vast amount of gold reserves when the price of gold was at an all time low, virtually bought the banking industry to its knees etc etc etc. Maybe if there was some money left when the tories came to power debt wouldn't be double...christ even Liam Byrne left a note to the tories saying there was nothing left. Haha love the gold reserves line ! 😂 Have a read up how the Tory party has spaffed billions on track & trace , dodgy ppe contracts etc then come back to me 🙄 ps the recession was bought on by sub prime crisis in the US
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Post by francegas on Dec 19, 2021 16:01:07 GMT
Didn't labour take the UK into recession, sold vast amount of gold reserves when the price of gold was at an all time low, virtually bought the banking industry to its knees etc etc etc. Maybe if there was some money left when the tories came to power debt wouldn't be double...christ even Liam Byrne left a note to the tories saying there was nothing left. Haha love the gold reserves line ! 😂 Have a read up how the Tory party has spaffed billions on track & trace , dodgy ppe contracts etc then come back to me 🙄 ps the recession was bought on by sub prime crisis in the US www.bbc.com/news/business-48177767
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Post by francegas on Dec 19, 2021 16:05:32 GMT
Didn't labour take the UK into recession, sold vast amount of gold reserves when the price of gold was at an all time low, virtually bought the banking industry to its knees etc etc etc. Maybe if there was some money left when the tories came to power debt wouldn't be double...christ even Liam Byrne left a note to the tories saying there was nothing left. Haha love the gold reserves line ! 😂 Have a read up how the Tory party has spaffed billions on track & trace , dodgy ppe contracts etc then come back to me 🙄 ps the recession was bought on by sub prime crisis in the US Oh I see.... so the recession was bought on by a sub prime crisis in the US but of course the state of the UK economy now has absolutely nothing to do with a worldwide pandemic!.....got it!
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Post by yattongas on Dec 19, 2021 16:13:21 GMT
Haha love the gold reserves line ! 😂 Have a read up how the Tory party has spaffed billions on track & trace , dodgy ppe contracts etc then come back to me 🙄 ps the recession was bought on by sub prime crisis in the US Oh I see.... so the recession was bought on by a sub prime crisis in the US but of course the state of the UK economy now has absolutely nothing to do with a worldwide pandemic!.....got it! The debt was rising before that , although you know that already. Of course Brexit isn’t helping either but you know that as well France 🙄
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 20, 2021 14:40:53 GMT
I see Laura Kuenssberg is stepping down around Easter 2022. Coincidence? 😎
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