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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 10:15:21 GMT
Mate, thats like me asking when are you going to lead rovers to the prem & champs league titles? odd comments like that are really just to stifle sensible debate arent they? Nope . You keep saying things aren’t debated then don’t debate them . You said we should have a discussion on immigration then didn’t say anything. ok then. how many refugees/immigrants stem from war & colonialism? Iraq/afghan/Syria/africa? Millions yeah? how many will a west/russia war create? How many will war in yemen create? Quite a few more?? What could be the next cause for emergency mass movement of people? natural & man made disasters maybe? There seems to be a relatively simple fix to those things, don't you think?
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 4, 2022 10:17:01 GMT
Another adviser reportedly going this morning, all part of the 'plan' to reorganise apparently 🤔 What did David Cameron say in the 2015 GE? Stability under me or chaos under Ed Miliband. We've had nothing but instability since. Yeah, but Ed Miliband eating that bacon sandwich
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Post by francegas on Feb 4, 2022 10:17:39 GMT
I have more than my share of Tory voting friends, most vote for them because they believe they are wealthier than what they actually are and wouldn't dare vote Labour as that's what the poor do. On Sunday I was in the company of a few blokes I know, sort of mates I suppose. They're probably your average 'man in the street' in some senses and are generally sound and a good laugh. The conversation switched from working, to covid, to the government in a fairly natural way. One pipes up with 'i'm not interested in the govt parties, sick of hearing about them' (the same guy had complained about lockdowns repeatedly) then went off on a rant about Starmer being a Lawyer and having 2 jobs. Something was said about invading Russia, something else about statues and law and order. All of this whilst watching our kids play football. There were also some anti mask/vax sentiments but I was distracted by my son being cynically tripped. This was 3 generally rational, moderately successful blokes passing the time of day. 3 Tory voters. 'I've met the man in the street and he's a c***' That's a nice way to refer to your mates!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 10:21:56 GMT
I have more than my share of Tory voting friends, most vote for them because they believe they are wealthier than what they actually are and wouldn't dare vote Labour as that's what the poor do. On Sunday I was in the company of a few blokes I know, sort of mates I suppose. They're probably your average 'man in the street' in some senses and are generally sound and a good laugh. The conversation switched from working, to covid, to the government in a fairly natural way. One pipes up with 'i'm not interested in the govt parties, sick of hearing about them' (the same guy had complained about lockdowns repeatedly) then went off on a rant about Starmer being a Lawyer and having 2 jobs. Something was said about invading Russia, something else about statues and law and order. All of this whilst watching our kids play football. There were also some anti mask/vax sentiments but I was distracted by my son being cynically tripped. This was 3 generally rational, moderately successful blokes passing the time of day. 3 Tory voters. 'I've met the man in the street and he's a c***' as the arctic monkeys said - Whod would want to be men of the people, when theres people like you? seriously tho, you meet remarkably few people who have any critical thoughts, most of them are happy to go with the liberal flow and opposed anything that threatens it... but i still think its the state that has intentionally raised them that way
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 4, 2022 10:24:45 GMT
That tweet doesn't show the full picture in France. There were energy price rises of 10% in July, 5% in August, 8.7% in September and 12.6% in October. Yes they will implement a 4% increase in Feb as stated however... EDF is state owned and have been ordered by the government to supply electricity to competitors below market price costing some €4 billion which will need to be absorbed in other areas (as yet not known). Also ever thought it's a coincidence there's a presidential election in April? Please don't think everything is rosy in France. Filled the car up with petrol yesterday at a cost of €1.76 a litre and that's for the cheaper branded unleaded at the supermarket which is cheaper than petrol station prices. Not trying to justify UK prices its a disgrace but don't really see the cost of fuel prices as a result of tory policies. Yes things are bad in the UK and across Europe at the moment. Mortgage prices have been at an all time low for years. Gassy try paying a mortgage when rates hit 14%. I'm under no illusion things are bad across the board, the difference is that we aren't choosing to use available mechanisms to alleviate the difficulties. Sunak is offering a loan to spread the pain, not good enough.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 4, 2022 10:33:24 GMT
More Boris lies.
Crime is down.
(If you dont count certain crimes)
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 4, 2022 10:34:10 GMT
More Boris lies. Crime is down. (If you dont count certain crimes) his crimes presumably. We are a banana Republic. Whens Eric back from Venezuela?
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Post by popuppirate on Feb 4, 2022 10:45:17 GMT
On Sunday I was in the company of a few blokes I know, sort of mates I suppose. They're probably your average 'man in the street' in some senses and are generally sound and a good laugh. The conversation switched from working, to covid, to the government in a fairly natural way. One pipes up with 'i'm not interested in the govt parties, sick of hearing about them' (the same guy had complained about lockdowns repeatedly) then went off on a rant about Starmer being a Lawyer and having 2 jobs. Something was said about invading Russia, something else about statues and law and order. All of this whilst watching our kids play football. There were also some anti mask/vax sentiments but I was distracted by my son being cynically tripped. This was 3 generally rational, moderately successful blokes passing the time of day. 3 Tory voters. 'I've met the man in the street and he's a c***' That's a nice way to refer to your mates! I know, I don't think 2 of them voted in fairness
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Post by yattongas on Feb 4, 2022 10:55:34 GMT
On Sunday I was in the company of a few blokes I know, sort of mates I suppose. They're probably your average 'man in the street' in some senses and are generally sound and a good laugh. The conversation switched from working, to covid, to the government in a fairly natural way. One pipes up with 'i'm not interested in the govt parties, sick of hearing about them' (the same guy had complained about lockdowns repeatedly) then went off on a rant about Starmer being a Lawyer and having 2 jobs. Something was said about invading Russia, something else about statues and law and order. All of this whilst watching our kids play football. There were also some anti mask/vax sentiments but I was distracted by my son being cynically tripped. This was 3 generally rational, moderately successful blokes passing the time of day. 3 Tory voters. 'I've met the man in the street and he's a c***' That's a nice way to refer to your mates! He’s got a point though
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 4, 2022 11:11:11 GMT
Nice from Tim Walker - "The thing about Johnson - and I worked with him for 12 years at the Telegraph - is just when you think he’s sunk as low as he can, he always manages to sink lower still."
I can't think of one redeeming feature, for me he's the worst PM I've lived through. Even Thatcher refused to do anything gimmicky as she held the post of PM seriously. BJ is demeaning the office and taking the country with him.
If only we could have foreseen this.......🤨
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Post by baggins on Feb 4, 2022 11:37:30 GMT
More Boris lies. Crime is down. (If you dont count certain crimes) ONS not happy with him spinning that one.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 4, 2022 11:38:15 GMT
On Sunday I was in the company of a few blokes I know, sort of mates I suppose. They're probably your average 'man in the street' in some senses and are generally sound and a good laugh. The conversation switched from working, to covid, to the government in a fairly natural way. One pipes up with 'i'm not interested in the govt parties, sick of hearing about them' (the same guy had complained about lockdowns repeatedly) then went off on a rant about Starmer being a Lawyer and having 2 jobs. Something was said about invading Russia, something else about statues and law and order. All of this whilst watching our kids play football. There were also some anti mask/vax sentiments but I was distracted by my son being cynically tripped. This was 3 generally rational, moderately successful blokes passing the time of day. 3 Tory voters. 'I've met the man in the street and he's a c***' That's a nice way to refer to your mates! You’ve been quiet lately France , been at a few parties ?
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Post by yattongas on Feb 4, 2022 11:40:57 GMT
Nope . You keep saying things aren’t debated then don’t debate them . You said we should have a discussion on immigration then didn’t say anything. ok then. how many refugees/immigrants stem from war & colonialism? Iraq/afghan/Syria/africa? Millions yeah? how many will a west/russia war create? How many will war in yemen create? Quite a few more?? What could be the next cause for emergency mass movement of people? natural & man made disasters maybe? There seems to be a relatively simple fix to those things, don't you think? Your simple fix being what ? Removal of borders ? Climate will definitely be a massive part of movement of people in the next 30-50 yrs that’s for sure
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 4, 2022 11:55:31 GMT
More Boris lies. Crime is down. (If you dont count certain crimes) ONS not happy with him spinning that one. It wasn't even spin, he just ignored Fraud!
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Post by Gassy on Feb 4, 2022 12:02:05 GMT
ONS not happy with him spinning that one. It wasn't even spin, he just ignored Fraud! Wonder why he would not want to talk about fraudulent crime?
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Post by Gassy on Feb 4, 2022 12:04:49 GMT
That tweet doesn't show the full picture in France. There were energy price rises of 10% in July, 5% in August, 8.7% in September and 12.6% in October. Yes they will implement a 4% increase in Feb as stated however... EDF is state owned and have been ordered by the government to supply electricity to competitors below market price costing some €4 billion which will need to be absorbed in other areas (as yet not known). Also ever thought it's a coincidence there's a presidential election in April? Please don't think everything is rosy in France. Filled the car up with petrol yesterday at a cost of €1.76 a litre and that's for the cheaper branded unleaded at the supermarket which is cheaper than petrol station prices. Not trying to justify UK prices its a disgrace but don't really see the cost of fuel prices as a result of tory policies. Yes things are bad in the UK and across Europe at the moment. Mortgage prices have been at an all time low for years. Gassy try paying a mortgage when rates hit 14%. Fuel prices are bonkers atm. Drove to Swindon away the other week from London had just under half the tank. Usually that’s about £25/30 to top up to full. Not going to lie I wasn’t really looking at the price, just wanted to fill it to the brim - £39 ffs! Had a double take when the cashier read it out!
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Post by baggins on Feb 4, 2022 12:09:48 GMT
That tweet doesn't show the full picture in France. There were energy price rises of 10% in July, 5% in August, 8.7% in September and 12.6% in October. Yes they will implement a 4% increase in Feb as stated however... EDF is state owned and have been ordered by the government to supply electricity to competitors below market price costing some €4 billion which will need to be absorbed in other areas (as yet not known). Also ever thought it's a coincidence there's a presidential election in April? Please don't think everything is rosy in France. Filled the car up with petrol yesterday at a cost of €1.76 a litre and that's for the cheaper branded unleaded at the supermarket which is cheaper than petrol station prices. Not trying to justify UK prices its a disgrace but don't really see the cost of fuel prices as a result of tory policies. Yes things are bad in the UK and across Europe at the moment. Mortgage prices have been at an all time low for years. Gassy try paying a mortgage when rates hit 14%. Fuel prices are bonkers atm. Drove to Swindon away the other week from London had just under half the tank. Usually that’s about £25/30 to top up to full. Not going to lie I wasn’t really looking at the price, just wanted to fill it to the brim - £39 ffs! Had a double take when the cashier read it out! Didn't Shell report profits of £19.3 billion recently?
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Post by brads213 on Feb 4, 2022 15:59:10 GMT
Don't know why everyone is moaning about the price of gas and electricity cus if you believe gretas follower surely with global warming we won't need to heat our homes
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Post by yattongas on Feb 4, 2022 16:10:00 GMT
Don't know why everyone is moaning about the price of gas and electricity cus if you believe gretas follower surely with global warming we won't need to heat our homes welcome 🙄
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 4, 2022 16:15:23 GMT
Don't know why everyone is moaning about the price of gas and electricity cus if you believe gretas follower surely with global warming we won't need to heat our homes hello child with less grasp of science than actual child. Welcome to the typing place for wordy words.
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