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Post by peterparker on Apr 16, 2021 8:16:09 GMT
It's a non story,the contract was from NHS Wales under control of the Welsh Government,it would be helpful if the media concentrated on real issues rather than trying to create tenuous links when the facts don't support them. yes and no. They are on a shortlist of NHS England suppliers and Health Service Journal also found Topwood has been in line for health contracts in England, securing a place on the NHS Shared Business Services framework for “confidential waste destruction and disposal” in 2019, just months after Hancock became secretary of state. The framework is effectively a shortlist of providers available to the local NHS. The HSJ added that Hancock did not declare his association with the firm in any of the published ministerial interests declarations of recent years,However, The Govt. have said he hasn't broken any ministerial codes, and he has no involvement in awarding course That may all be true, but on top of the recent stories, it just goes to show their are too many loopholes that need closing |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 16, 2021 8:56:52 GMT
It's a non story,the contract was from NHS Wales under control of the Welsh Government,it would be helpful if the media concentrated on real issues rather than trying to create tenuous links when the facts don't support them. yes and no. They are on a shortlist of NHS England suppliers and Health Service Journal also found Topwood has been in line for health contracts in England, securing a place on the NHS Shared Business Services framework for “confidential waste destruction and disposal” in 2019, just months after Hancock became secretary of state. The framework is effectively a shortlist of providers available to the local NHS. The HSJ added that Hancock did not declare his association with the firm in any of the published ministerial interests declarations of recent years,However, The Govt. have said he hasn't broken any ministerial codes, and he has no involvement in awarding course That may all be true, but on top of the recent stories, it just goes to show their are too many loopholes that need closing PP I agree with your last sentence and that's what needs to be focused on rather than all the froth and false indignation from Labour,perhaps they should look at Liverpool Council if they want to find real corruption. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2021 9:32:41 GMT
It's a non story,the contract was from NHS Wales under control of the Welsh Government,it would be helpful if the media concentrated on real issues rather than trying to create tenuous links when the facts don't support them. On the radio just now , they are pointing out that the contract was done out of tender during the pandemic So I’m guessing it wasn’t done by the Welsh gov |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 16, 2021 18:21:26 GMT
It's a non story,the contract was from NHS Wales under control of the Welsh Government,it would be helpful if the media concentrated on real issues rather than trying to create tenuous links when the facts don't support them. On the radio just now , they are pointing out that the contract was done out of tender during the pandemic So I’m guessing it wasn’t done by the Welsh gov All NHS spending is approved by the Welsh Government, what annoys about all this is the faux outrage ffs it's been going on for decades,it happens in Business everyone is subject to lobbying I know I was in my job,does it mean it affected the decision then no it gives you more information to make the right decision,not everyone is on the take . Have a look at the appalling corruption in Labour Liverpool Council, nothing from Starmer on that is there,ask yourself why not,a trifle inconvenient perhaps. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2021 19:19:08 GMT
On the radio just now , they are pointing out that the contract was done out of tender during the pandemic So I’m guessing it wasn’t done by the Welsh gov All NHS spending is approved by the Welsh Government, what annoys about all this is the faux outrage ffs it's been going on for decades,it happens in Business everyone is subject to lobbying I know I was in my job,does it mean it affected the decision then no it gives you more information to make the right decision,not everyone is on the take . Have a look at the appalling corruption in Labour Liverpool Council, nothing from Starmer on that is there,ask yourself why not,a trifle inconvenient perhaps. Fully agree if Labour in Liverpool have been corrupt they should get hauled over the coals. The lobbying scandal concerning Dodgy Dave , who stood to gain a reputed £60 from the PUBLIC purse is indefensible, especially after he was on the record saying he was going to stop it. Hypocrisy of the highest order. |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 16, 2021 19:43:06 GMT
All NHS spending is approved by the Welsh Government, what annoys about all this is the faux outrage ffs it's been going on for decades,it happens in Business everyone is subject to lobbying I know I was in my job,does it mean it affected the decision then no it gives you more information to make the right decision,not everyone is on the take . Have a look at the appalling corruption in Labour Liverpool Council, nothing from Starmer on that is there,ask yourself why not,a trifle inconvenient perhaps. Fully agree if Labour in Liverpool have been corrupt they should get hauled over the coals. The lobbying scandal concerning Dodgy Dave , who stood to gain a reputed £60 from the PUBLIC purse is indefensible, especially after he was on the record saying he was going to stop it. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Think you mean £60m he wouldn't get out of bed for a pee for £60😆😆 It's a plague on all their houses for me. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 16, 2021 20:17:37 GMT
Fully agree if Labour in Liverpool have been corrupt they should get hauled over the coals. The lobbying scandal concerning Dodgy Dave , who stood to gain a reputed £60 from the PUBLIC purse is indefensible, especially after he was on the record saying he was going to stop it. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Think you mean £60m he wouldn't get out of bed for a pee for £60😆😆 It's a plague on all their houses for me. 😂 yep £60,000,000 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 16, 2021 20:19:36 GMT
Fully agree if Labour in Liverpool have been corrupt they should get hauled over the coals. The lobbying scandal concerning Dodgy Dave , who stood to gain a reputed £60 from the PUBLIC purse is indefensible, especially after he was on the record saying he was going to stop it. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Think you mean £60m he wouldn't get out of bed for a pee for £60😆😆 It's a plague on all their houses for me. Unless he is our stadium investor, then welcome Dave, always thought you were as honest as the day is long 😁 |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 16, 2021 21:50:15 GMT
Think you mean £60m he wouldn't get out of bed for a pee for £60😆😆 It's a plague on all their houses for me. Unless he is our stadium investor, then welcome Dave, always thought you were as honest as the day is long 😁 Not sure we want someone who stuck his knob in a pigs head as an investor then again.......... |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 16, 2021 21:54:56 GMT
Unless he is our stadium investor, then welcome Dave, always thought you were as honest as the day is long 😁 Not sure we want someone who stuck his knob in a pigs head as an investor then again.......... You make it appear unseemly, we've all done silly things haven't we? 😇 |
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 17, 2021 7:47:43 GMT
Not sure we want someone who stuck his knob in a pigs head as an investor then again.......... You make it appear unseemly, we've all done silly things haven't we? 😇 Yep but I feel sorry for the pig😆 |
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Post by oldie on Apr 17, 2021 8:15:54 GMT
Not sure we want someone who stuck his knob in a pigs head as an investor then again.......... You make it appear unseemly, we've all done silly things haven't we? 😇 There is silly and then there is the perverse. Judgement?...umm...nah |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2021 8:42:40 GMT
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Post by oldie on Apr 18, 2021 14:23:26 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 20, 2021 9:52:42 GMT
Good news if true and is delivered. "The UK government is expected to make a significant announcement on reducing its emissions to help tackle climate change, Sky News understands. Preparations are being made to set a new target in law to reduce emissions - it's thought by 78% by 2035 compared to 1990 levels. That would be in line with recommendations by the Committee on Climate Change, which advises the government how to get to net zero. Crucially, any new pledge could include emissions from aviation and shipping for the first time. It would mean an increase in ambition on the international pledge made by the UK government last December to reduce emissions by 68% by 2030." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-uk-set-to-shift-target-for-reducing-emissions-ahead-of-world-leaders-summit-12280788 |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 20, 2021 12:07:36 GMT
Good news if true and is delivered. "The UK government is expected to make a significant announcement on reducing its emissions to help tackle climate change, Sky News understands. Preparations are being made to set a new target in law to reduce emissions - it's thought by 78% by 2035 compared to 1990 levels. That would be in line with recommendations by the Committee on Climate Change, which advises the government how to get to net zero. Crucially, any new pledge could include emissions from aviation and shipping for the first time. It would mean an increase in ambition on the international pledge made by the UK government last December to reduce emissions by 68% by 2030." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-uk-set-to-shift-target-for-reducing-emissions-ahead-of-world-leaders-summit-12280788Yep great if true and they meet the targets ( big if!). Also worth looking at the small print and if it’s a real cut or a net cut where they off set things by planting a few trees so they can carry on jet setting around the world . I’d bring in a rule for everyone, you’ve got a 5 flight allowance over the next 5 yrs .... and ban all uk domestic flights . |
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Post by Gassy on Apr 20, 2021 12:36:31 GMT
Good news if true and is delivered. "The UK government is expected to make a significant announcement on reducing its emissions to help tackle climate change, Sky News understands. Preparations are being made to set a new target in law to reduce emissions - it's thought by 78% by 2035 compared to 1990 levels. That would be in line with recommendations by the Committee on Climate Change, which advises the government how to get to net zero. Crucially, any new pledge could include emissions from aviation and shipping for the first time. It would mean an increase in ambition on the international pledge made by the UK government last December to reduce emissions by 68% by 2030." news.sky.com/story/climate-change-uk-set-to-shift-target-for-reducing-emissions-ahead-of-world-leaders-summit-12280788Yep great if true and they meet the targets ( big if!). Also worth looking at the small print and if it’s a real cut or a net cut where they off set things by planting a few trees so they can carry on jet setting around the world . I’d bring in a rule for everyone, you’ve got a 5 flight allowance over the next 5 yrs .... and ban all uk domestic flights . Does it really matter, within reason? As long as the Co2 emissions are offset by trees and other technology, that’s the first important step. Not sure your other idea would work though. Firstly for business I fly probably 3/4 times a year and that’ll be more once we’re out of lockdown. There’s going to be a boom once travel is more free, I am sure of that. Also secondly, what about those that live abroad? They can only then take one holiday per year and its a choice of see family or take holiday? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 20, 2021 12:58:19 GMT
Yep great if true and they meet the targets ( big if!). Also worth looking at the small print and if it’s a real cut or a net cut where they off set things by planting a few trees so they can carry on jet setting around the world . I’d bring in a rule for everyone, you’ve got a 5 flight allowance over the next 5 yrs .... and ban all uk domestic flights . Does it really matter, within reason? As long as the Co2 emissions are offset by trees and other technology, that’s the first important step. Not sure your other idea would work though. Firstly for business I fly probably 3/4 times a year and that’ll be more once we’re out of lockdown. There’s going to be a boom once travel is more free, I am sure of that. Also secondly, what about those that live abroad? They can only then take one holiday per year and its a choice of see family or take holiday? Zoom calls for your business and yep 1 flight a year for everyone. I think I read that about 80% of flights are taken by something like 10% of people. Yet we all pay the same price in terms of climate damage . I know people won’t like it but there you go . Unless of course they can develop planes that cut emissions drastically and we can all take a few more flights . Don’t get me wrong as I wouldn’t like it but something has to change . Off setting is all a bit of a con if you ask me , so rich people can fly and feel guilt free. |
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Post by Gassy on Apr 20, 2021 13:04:10 GMT
Does it really matter, within reason? As long as the Co2 emissions are offset by trees and other technology, that’s the first important step. Not sure your other idea would work though. Firstly for business I fly probably 3/4 times a year and that’ll be more once we’re out of lockdown. There’s going to be a boom once travel is more free, I am sure of that. Also secondly, what about those that live abroad? They can only then take one holiday per year and its a choice of see family or take holiday? Zoom calls for your business and yep 1 flight a year for everyone. I think I read that about 80% of flights are taken by something like 10% of people. Yet we all pay the same price in terms of climate damage . I know people won’t like it but there you go . Unless of course they can develop planes that cut emissions drastically and we can all take a few more flights . Don’t get me wrong as I wouldn’t like it but something has to change . Off setting is all a bit of a con if you ask me , so rich people can fly and feel guilt free. Well considering probably 50% of the globe can’t afford to fly, I’d say it’s a skewed statistic. But you’re not wrong, something does need to change. It’s more realistic though that planes will become more efficient when it comes to emissions, but I have to say that’s pretty damn unlikely. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 20, 2021 13:19:36 GMT
Zoom calls for your business and yep 1 flight a year for everyone. I think I read that about 80% of flights are taken by something like 10% of people. Yet we all pay the same price in terms of climate damage . I know people won’t like it but there you go . Unless of course they can develop planes that cut emissions drastically and we can all take a few more flights . Don’t get me wrong as I wouldn’t like it but something has to change . Off setting is all a bit of a con if you ask me , so rich people can fly and feel guilt free. Well considering probably 50% of the globe can’t afford to fly, I’d say it’s a skewed statistic. But you’re not wrong, something does need to change. It’s more realistic though that planes will become more efficient when it comes to emissions, but I have to say that’s pretty damn unlikely. Precisely ! I expect it’s a lot lower than 50% , maybe 10% at a guess . That’s why it’s a bit rich for us to say we should be allowed multiple flights a yr . 1 a year is a luxury we should all be thankful for 😃 |
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