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Post by singupgas on Jun 24, 2020 8:46:49 GMT
Let's be honest TC, along with Sercombe and Nichols was probably amongst our highest earners. The wage bill probably had 10k plus a week shaved off it. Shame Tony had to go though, hard to replace that experience, great organiser and mentor for the younger players. I mean, we didn't offer him a new deal on reduced terms so he clearly wasn't wanted. The new policy is to sign young Football Manager regens. Agree, I think we are actually bringing in younger cheaper players. Don't expect us to bring in players on similar wages.
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 24, 2020 8:51:38 GMT
I mean, we didn't offer him a new deal on reduced terms so he clearly wasn't wanted. The new policy is to sign young Football Manager regens. Agree, I think we are actually bringing in younger cheaper players. Don't expect us to bring in players on similar wages. I completely understand that to an extent but, as I've said before older players do have a part to play. Our success from 2014-17 was in a big way down to the likes of Mildenhall, McChrystal, Monkhouse, Mansell and Easter, all players in the twilight of their career that brought the correct attitude and led in different ways. Unless we really do sign some players who can add to the leadership I only see a continuation of form into next season.
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Post by singupgas on Jun 24, 2020 8:55:08 GMT
Agree, I think we are actually bringing in younger cheaper players. Don't expect us to bring in players on similar wages. I completely understand that to an extent but, as I've said before older players do have a part to play. Our success from 2014-17 was in a big way down to the likes of Mildenhall, McChrystal, Monkhouse, Mansell and Easter, all players in the twilight of their career that brought the correct attitude and led in different ways. Unless we really do sign some players who can add to the leadership I only see a continuation of form into next season. I think we are agree, I would have kept Tony and maybe brought in someone else to play in midfield with the wage money Nichols and Sercombe would have freed up...I don't really see enough quality in the players we do have.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 24, 2020 9:09:44 GMT
If instead of signing Hartley to replace Macca, and Clarke Salter in 16/17, they had signed Craig, Rovers would have made the playoffs.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 24, 2020 10:59:11 GMT
If instead of signing Hartley to replace Macca, and Clarke Salter in 16/17, they had signed Craig, Rovers would have made the playoffs. Possibly, but he'd never have come to us at that time. It was only because he'd fallen out of favour at Millwall after they went up that we were able to get him.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 24, 2020 11:50:52 GMT
Correct decision to let go IMO. Now too slow for L1, relies too heavily on other defenders covering for him which in a 352 isn’t too bad but in a 442 leaves you massively exposed.
Whilst he has many qualities such as leadership and passion, they no longer made up the shortfall for what’s required at this level.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 24, 2020 12:21:47 GMT
Ben knows best....
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Post by chewbacca on Jun 24, 2020 12:33:35 GMT
12.5% of the time he's always right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 12:39:22 GMT
Disappointed. A dignified exit interview - best of luck to him for the future. Well said Tilly, great guy.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 24, 2020 12:51:38 GMT
Correct decision to let go IMO. Now too slow for L1, relies too heavily on other defenders covering for him which in a 352 isn’t too bad but in a 442 leaves you massively exposed. Whilst he has many qualities such as leadership and passion, they no longer made up the shortfall for what’s required at this level. But you were never a fan of his anyway? Until next season gets underway it's impossible to know if we'll miss his leadership or not, if we don't sign any more CB's then the big issue is whether TD's capable of playing twice a week all season (he's only ever managed more than 25 games once in his career and even then only played 32 games) or, if not, whether Rollin or Harries can step up to the mark to play alongside fellow youngster Kilgore, as things stand there's a worrying lack of league experience in the back line should Davies be ever out injured.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 24, 2020 13:36:05 GMT
Correct decision to let go IMO. Now too slow for L1, relies too heavily on other defenders covering for him which in a 352 isn’t too bad but in a 442 leaves you massively exposed. Whilst he has many qualities such as leadership and passion, they no longer made up the shortfall for what’s required at this level. But you were never a fan of his anyway? Until next season gets underway it's impossible to know if we'll miss his leadership or not, if we don't sign any more CB's then the big issue is whether TD's capable of playing twice a week all season (he's only ever managed more than 25 games once in his career and even then only played 32 games) or, if not, whether Rollin or Harries can step up to the mark to play alongside fellow youngster Kilgore, as things stand there's a worrying lack of league experience in the back line should Davies be ever out injured. Makes no difference whether I was his fan or not, I judge a player by ability on the pitch and what he brings to the team. We also have 2 excellent CBs in Rollin and Alfie who can step up and have twice the legs.
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Post by wilkimania on Jun 24, 2020 16:24:56 GMT
Correct decision to let go IMO. Now too slow for L1, relies too heavily on other defenders covering for him which in a 352 isn’t too bad but in a 442 leaves you massively exposed. Whilst he has many qualities such as leadership and passion, they no longer made up the shortfall for what’s required at this level. But you were never a fan of his anyway? Until next season gets underway it's impossible to know if we'll miss his leadership or not, if we don't sign any more CB's then the big issue is whether TD's capable of playing twice a week all season (he's only ever managed more than 25 games once in his career and even then only played 32 games) or, if not, whether Rollin or Harries can step up to the mark to play alongside fellow youngster Kilgore, as things stand there's a worrying lack of league experience in the back line should Davies be ever out injured. Some Mansfield fans seem to think they're after Davies so maybe it'll be a complete overhaul of the defence for us?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 17:21:19 GMT
It’s blatantly obvious to me we will sign an experienced CB this summer.
It’s not just bens call if I understand the set up correctly, I suspect Ben will know that Tony needs replacing and even more so Tommy and Martyn will as well
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Post by BrightonGas on Jun 24, 2020 18:18:03 GMT
Post will be publishing an interview later today - apparently he wasn't offered a new contract. Tony Craig has revealed he was not offered a new contract by Bristol Rovers this summer, but the veteran centre-half holds no grudges over his exit. The 35-year-old was released this month after a fine two-and-a-half years at the Mem. Centre-back Craig, who earned fan-favourite status among Gasheads for his throwback style and passion on the pitch, leaves the Mem with more than 100 appearances for the Pirates – missing just one league game during his tenure. The Londoner – revered for his no-nonsense “Millwall Tone” persona on the grass – has confirmed he has no intentions of hanging his boots up just yet, but he will not don the blue and white quarters again. “It was a discussion between me and Ben Garner and he said there wasn’t a contract there for me next season, so I didn’t have to make a decision,” Craig revealed exclusively to Bristol Live. “Obviously with the way Ben and the club want to go next season, they want to go in a different direction and that’s football. “Players come and go and at the end of the day they’re just a number and in my years in Bristol I’ve seen a lot of players come and go.” Despite Garner deciding against offering Craig a new contract, the centre-half believes the Rovers boss – who secured two wins in three months prior to the season being curtailed – has the tools to deliver success at the Mem. “Ben’s come in with his own philosophy of how he wants to play, and I suppose that’s very different,” Craig said. “It will be shown when he gets the boys back for pre-season. “Christmas is a difficult time to come in. The side was settled and we weren’t in a bad position, so it was a difficult one of whether he should stick to the way we were playing or does he go to his own philosophy. "It was tricky. There were some players stuck in the mindset of how we used to play and the best thing for Ben is to do his pre-season, get in the players he wants and take the club wherever he sees fit. “He’s a very good coach and his training sessions were very good. " It’s one of them" with the rut that we were in, we weren’t clinical enough or we weren’t getting the rub of the green.” Classic catchphrase Tone!!
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 24, 2020 18:36:41 GMT
I hope we dont come out at the beginning of the season with a team that is totally devoid of any experience.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jun 25, 2020 19:17:21 GMT
I'm sorry to see Craig leave but as the man himself says players come and go. His interview shows just what a professional the guy. Is. I wish him well.
Back to the defence. We need an experienced CB who can continue to bring on the youngsters in much the same way Craig did. I'm not totally convinced that we have such a player on the books at present. I'm talking about a younger version of Craig who can command respect both on and off the pitch.
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Post by devonblue on Jun 25, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
Really disappointed to see Tony leave. He really was a class act and brought much needed experience and stability to the defence and always gave his best. Good luck with your new club.
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Post by gas2 on Jun 26, 2020 7:12:38 GMT
It's going to be a long hard season coming up next season
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 26, 2020 7:30:53 GMT
It's going to be a long hard season coming up next season It would have been anyway.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 26, 2020 7:38:03 GMT
It's going to be a long hard season coming up next season Chin up, last season at the Mem before we move into the Fruit Market super stadium!
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