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Post by womble on Jun 21, 2020 18:43:30 GMT
I am reliably informed the price agreed for the FM site is £63M. I don't know where the £75M quoted by that Twitter account comes from. As well as the Fruit Market the developers are buying the recycling depot and some other bits and pieces around the site - maybe in total the price of the land is around £75M? That’s a huge amount of money. I’d love to know how that is going to produce a profit for the developer, let alone a football stadium. But then I have zero experience of being a property developer or building football stadiums.
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Post by gas2 on Jun 21, 2020 18:45:01 GMT
B c c are in a in a bad way money wise need money to of set the pandemic spending
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Post by womble on Jun 21, 2020 18:46:59 GMT
I thought the FM land was owned by BCC, surely any land would be by the way of a long term lease? Most of the land between the fruit market and the river is owned by BCC, but I don’t think the fruit market site is.
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Post by keygas on Jun 21, 2020 18:51:52 GMT
I thought the FM land was owned by BCC, surely any land would be by the way of a long term lease? Most of the land between the fruit market and the river is owned by BCC, but I don’t think the fruit market site is. I believe the fruit market is owned by Total Produce, Arthur David & couple more businesses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2020 19:38:22 GMT
I would guess the £75m figure would be for the whole area which is to be developed, with just a part of that being for any proposed stadium(?). A sum of £75m simply for the land and then tens of millions for the build just wouldn’t make any sense. Ah OK.. That is far less alarming.. I'm not sure, by looking at the site, whether there is any room for development other than a stadium as I reckon that's all that would fit on the land. Just a bit of guesswork on my part and hasn’t the Mayor previously mentioned development of the whole area? Just makes me think we will be one part of a much larger project?
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Post by womble on Jun 21, 2020 19:50:37 GMT
Ah OK.. That is far less alarming.. I'm not sure, by looking at the site, whether there is any room for development other than a stadium as I reckon that's all that would fit on the land. Just a bit of guesswork on my part and hasn’t the Mayor previously mentioned development of the whole area? Just makes me think we will be one part of a much larger project? The whole area is part of the Temple Quarter Enterprise Zone, so it’s certainly a possibility. www.bristoltemplequarter.com/portfolio-items/masterplan/?portfolioCats=141
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Post by timsburygas on Jun 21, 2020 19:51:07 GMT
It is likely the council will have to provide a alternative site for the businesses there to continue operations, this may be costed into any final amounts of the deal.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 21, 2020 20:03:58 GMT
Ah OK.. That is far less alarming.. I'm not sure, by looking at the site, whether there is any room for development other than a stadium as I reckon that's all that would fit on the land. Just a bit of guesswork on my part and hasn’t the Mayor previously mentioned development of the whole area? Just makes me think we will be one part of a much larger project? www.hydrock.com/news/master-planning-st-philips-marsh-bristols-kings-cross/You can see exactly where the stadium would go 😇 I believe the council is wanting to expand the city centre, which tbf is relatively small. The rumoured company a while ago was Conygar, who were developing a £650m project in Nottingham. www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/650m-plans-transform-nottingham-boots-3833233Station was the one who originally brought the name about. But never mentioned where they got it from. Personally, I always had the feeling station used to be a member of the club...
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jun 21, 2020 21:04:40 GMT
Interesting how Covid has affected Grimsby's stadium plans.
Funny the chairman says we've had some interesting discussions with the council, when their majority shareholder is the deputy leader of it.
A new stadium is “bottom of our list of priorities” for Grimsby Town as the club continues life without football.
Hopes were high that a new ground could finally be delivered after Town revealed their intentions to push ahead with plans for relocation to Freeman Street, following the decision to call time on takeover bids for the club.
Majority shareholder John Fenty estimated that the proposed stadium would take three to five years to be delivered, and opted to take a step back from his duties with the club in an effort to help the process along and focus on his role as deputy leader of North East Lincolnshire Council.
But with the coronavirus pandemic hitting football hard, those plans have had to be re-evaluated as Town face up to the prospect of being out of action for a considerable amount of time.
And chairman Philip Day admits that while the club are still aiming to relocate, a new stadium is now its lowest priority.
Asked how the club maintain itself during this uncertain time, Mr Day told Grimsby Live: “The club’s always open for investment, that situation hasn’t changed.
“As far as relocation is concerned, I’m afraid that is at the bottom of our list of priorities at the moment.
“We are still committed to relocation, but there are far more important things to sort out at the present time.”
It looks likely that it will now be some time before the club is able to push on with its plans for a new stadium in earnest, although Mr Day did air a note of optimism at the base that has already been established.
“We won’t quite be starting from scratch as we’ve had some useful discussions with the council, and we’ll continue to have discussions with them.
“But of course, the council have also got different priorities at the moment.
“There’s no timeline on it at the moment. As and when we get back up and running, then we will obviously reassess the situation.”
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Post by thegasman on Jun 22, 2020 7:16:21 GMT
Most of the land between the fruit market and the river is owned by BCC, but I don’t think the fruit market site is. I believe the fruit market is owned by Total Produce, Arthur David & couple more businesses. I posted this last year: Not wishing to give out false info, I was anal enough to purchase the title deed for this land from the UK land registry. It is unequivocally owned by: WHOLESALE FRUIT CENTRE (BRISTOL) LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 0815660) of Albert Crescent, St Philips March, Bristol BS2 0YQ. further more, nearly every unit (with a couple of exceptions) on the land is leased to separate companies for 99 years from 1968.
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Post by gas2 on Jun 22, 2020 8:40:01 GMT
Can the council compulsory purchase from fruit market I know it's a long drawn out process ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 22, 2020 8:45:03 GMT
I believe the fruit market is owned by Total Produce, Arthur David & couple more businesses. I posted this last year: Not wishing to give out false info, I was anal enough to purchase the title deed for this land from the UK land registry. It is unequivocally owned by: WHOLESALE FRUIT CENTRE (BRISTOL) LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 0815660) of Albert Crescent, St Philips March, Bristol BS2 0YQ. further more, nearly every unit (with a couple of exceptions) on the land is leased to separate companies for 99 years from 1968. But who owns WFC, we own the Mem but ultimately if we sold it any prospective purchases would have to agree a deal with DS/Wael not the club? I assume agreeing deals for the leases will be part of the talks, or they will simply transfer to a replacement site which will have to be found. There's enough "noise" to suggest this is more than just wild rumours by ITK'ers.
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Post by mrwarboys on Jun 22, 2020 10:14:46 GMT
His twitter feed is still rolling on with this, who are the consortium that have been mentioned and discussed before, as reading between the lines it's them and Wael?
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Post by thegasman on Jun 22, 2020 10:24:30 GMT
I posted this last year: Not wishing to give out false info, I was anal enough to purchase the title deed for this land from the UK land registry. It is unequivocally owned by: WHOLESALE FRUIT CENTRE (BRISTOL) LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 0815660) of Albert Crescent, St Philips March, Bristol BS2 0YQ. further more, nearly every unit (with a couple of exceptions) on the land is leased to separate companies for 99 years from 1968. But who owns WFC, we own the Mem but ultimately if we sold it any prospective purchases would have to agree a deal with DS/Wael not the club? I assume agreeing deals for the leases will be part of the talks, or they will simply transfer to a replacement site which will have to be found. There's enough "noise" to suggest this is more than just wild rumours by ITK'ers. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00815660/officersWith the amount of different people listed, it sounds like a co-op made up of the traders, though I could very well be wide of the mark.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2020 10:42:30 GMT
It is- was all discussed when FM first spoken about a year ago. There is a management company set up as the freeholder and owned in proportion by those who own the businesses who own the land. Doing this eases the administrative chore of removing/ adding new tenants to the Fruit/ veg units on site.
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Post by BrightonGas on Jun 22, 2020 11:08:22 GMT
I posted this last year: Not wishing to give out false info, I was anal enough to purchase the title deed for this land from the UK land registry. It is unequivocally owned by: WHOLESALE FRUIT CENTRE (BRISTOL) LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 0815660) of Albert Crescent, St Philips March, Bristol BS2 0YQ. further more, nearly every unit (with a couple of exceptions) on the land is leased to separate companies for 99 years from 1968. But who owns WFC, we own the Mem but ultimately if we sold it any prospective purchases would have to agree a deal with DS/Wael not the club? I assume agreeing deals for the leases will be part of the talks, or they will simply transfer to a replacement site which will have to be found. There's enough "noise" to suggest this is more than just wild rumours by ITK'ers. This company is the biggest shareholder: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00447404/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2020 11:25:29 GMT
I believe the fruit market is owned by Total Produce, Arthur David & couple more businesses. I posted this last year: Not wishing to give out false info, I was anal enough to purchase the title deed for this land from the UK land registry. It is unequivocally owned by: WHOLESALE FRUIT CENTRE (BRISTOL) LIMITED (Co. Regn. No. 0815660) of Albert Crescent, St Philips March, Bristol BS2 0YQ. further more, nearly every unit (with a couple of exceptions) on the land is leased to separate companies for 99 years from 1968. Rule number one. NEVER do any research before posting on Gaschat. You may come up with something true.
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 22, 2020 11:45:05 GMT
I've been waiting for 41 years for a Brand New Shiny Stadium to call our own, I just hope that by the time it's actually built I'll still be alive to sit in it...... I'll take the Training Ground as a positive step towards that goal. PS I'm 47 next month so hopefully I've still got some time to go yet 🤞 I bumped to to GD and he said "Good news Paul we have planning permission to build a stadium at UWE". I replied "I will be a pensioner before that is built". GD came back straight away with "Look on the bright side you will be able to get a cheap ticket! What a wag
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