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Post by poorblue on Aug 1, 2020 11:33:13 GMT
the 3 degrees - Phillips, Hulbert and Warwick.
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Post by poorblue on Aug 1, 2020 11:39:08 GMT
the 3 degrees - Phillips, Hulbert and Warwick. Its been clearly stated by the club the squad will be 22 players not including U23 squad. Therefore 4 or 5 strikers will mean 1 keeper 1 DM 1 AM etc This is all to comply with the Fair Play, Salary Cap and covid19 cut backs. More strikers should go one the W ish list thread
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 14:08:56 GMT
Opinion from a Blackburn supporting friend: " He is a force at that level. He’ll get you goals and work hard "
Could be promising, if it comes off.
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Post by axegas on Aug 1, 2020 14:33:10 GMT
Opinion from a Blackburn supporting friend: " He is a force at that level. He’ll get you goals and work hard " Could be promising, if it comes off. Heard anything more about potential incomings Tilly?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:36:35 GMT
Opinion from a Blackburn supporting friend: " He is a force at that level. He’ll get you goals and work hard " Could be promising, if it comes off. Heard anything more about potential incomings Tilly? Unfortunately not - my source is slacking!
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Post by oldgas on Aug 1, 2020 17:07:17 GMT
Heard anything more about potential incomings Tilly? Unfortunately not - my source is slacking! Have a word!
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Post by graceyboy on Aug 2, 2020 2:02:34 GMT
This isn't going to happen.. Only if JCH gets sold. 3 big tall targetman strikers makes absolutely no sense. It seems that it was a toss up between Samuel and Jo ah Ayunga and we went for the latter. This is dead in the water unless JCH gets sold. We need a small quick goalscorer now not someone who is just good in the air and at holding the ball up
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Aug 2, 2020 8:38:52 GMT
Lambert and Walker
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Aug 2, 2020 9:08:32 GMT
This isn't going to happen.. Only if JCH gets sold. 3 big tall targetman strikers makes absolutely no sense. It seems that it was a toss up between Samuel and Jo ah Ayunga and we went for the latter. This is dead in the water unless JCH gets sold. We need a small quick goalscorer now not someone who is just good in the air and at holding the ball up Opinion or Source?
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 2, 2020 10:04:33 GMT
I think Ayunga will spend more tim in the development squad than the first team, at least for this season
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Post by Keynsham Rover on Aug 2, 2020 10:35:03 GMT
This isn't going to happen.. Only if JCH gets sold. 3 big tall targetman strikers makes absolutely no sense. It seems that it was a toss up between Samuel and Jo ah Ayunga and we went for the latter. This is dead in the water unless JCH gets sold. We need a small quick goalscorer now not someone who is just good in the air and at holding the ball up Completely disagree. If BG has a style of play in mind which doesn't involve a two man strikeforce then I don't see any need to bring in alternatives to the "target men" that you describe. I certainly wouldn't say Samuel's skillset ends at being good in the air either, he's played as a winger at times for Blackburn and seems more than capable of running the channels.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 2, 2020 11:23:39 GMT
I think Ayunga will spend more tim in the development squad than the first team, at least for this season Interesting he seems to have set himself a goals target, unless that's for D. Squad games I assume he's expecting to be playing 1st team football. Although I guess Mensah did as well when he signed! If he can cope at this level I'm not sure I'd fancy trying to defend against him, JCH and two footed Nicholson!
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Post by yaz on Aug 15, 2020 23:03:19 GMT
There's always the loan market, as well. We don't know how good the others are, yet. James Daly could turn out to be a 20 goal a season striker and Ayunga could get 10-15, we just don't know. If Liverpool were without Salah or Mane, or even Firminho for long periods and had to rely on Origi, they wouldn't of won the league, I am certain about that, they haven't got 4 or 5 strikers and they're the best team in the country. It's all just guess work and hypothetical how many strikers we need. Man City do NOT have decent strikers with Aguero injured. Stirling and Jesus are not that good but look good because they play in a team with such a creative midfield that creates so many chances for them. It would be interesting to see goals scored vs chances split by range from goal i.e. 1-10 yards, 11-20, etc. for these 2 players. I think Jesus will come out poor? Compare these players to Kane, Son, Ings, Ollie Watkins, Billy Sharp, etc. and it wil be noticeable. If we had a creative midfield, then the chances would come and the chances of more goals irrespective of the strikers although they do make a big difference. Ollie Watkins stands out in all 4 leagues for the way he plays; he rarely loses the ball? Reminds me of Rickie Lambert; one touch, lay it off or calmness in front of Goal! UTG Watched Man City today vs Lyon. Stirling missed an open goal from 3 yards with the ball on the ground to him and put it over the bar. He had a reasonable game but a terrible miss. Jesus missed a similar chance from even closer but ball was in the air. As I said above, these 2 players are NOT good enough for a team like Man City. Stirling has pace and does score some good goals; Jesus may score a few good ones once in a while but most of their goals, although don't quote me on that, come from very close range? Aguero, etc. would not have missed these chances except maybe once in a blue moon? As regards the Bayern vs Barca match, I think that game exemplified why Ronaldo is a better all round professional than Messi; he would not and does not give up for whichever team he is playing for? UTG
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Post by pirate on Aug 16, 2020 0:03:27 GMT
Man City do NOT have decent strikers with Aguero injured. Stirling and Jesus are not that good but look good because they play in a team with such a creative midfield that creates so many chances for them. It would be interesting to see goals scored vs chances split by range from goal i.e. 1-10 yards, 11-20, etc. for these 2 players. I think Jesus will come out poor? Compare these players to Kane, Son, Ings, Ollie Watkins, Billy Sharp, etc. and it wil be noticeable. If we had a creative midfield, then the chances would come and the chances of more goals irrespective of the strikers although they do make a big difference. Ollie Watkins stands out in all 4 leagues for the way he plays; he rarely loses the ball? Reminds me of Rickie Lambert; one touch, lay it off or calmness in front of Goal! UTG Watched Man City today vs Lyon. Stirling missed an open goal from 3 yards with the ball on the ground to him and put it over the bar. He had a reasonable game but a terrible miss. Jesus missed a similar chance from even closer but ball was in the air. As I said above, these 2 players are NOT good enough for a team like Man City. Stirling has pace and does score some good goals; Jesus may score a few good ones once in a while but most of their goals, although don't quote me on that, come from very close range? Aguero, etc. would not have missed these chances except maybe once in a blue moon? As regards the Bayern vs Barca match, I think that game exemplified why Ronaldo is a better all round professional than Messi; he would not and does not give up for whichever team he is playing for? UTG Everybody misses chances, even Aguero. Sterling and Gabriel Jesus are more than good enough to play for City, their records and ability clearly show that. The goalkeeper made a huge mistake, but that doesn't mean he is no longer good enough and is still one of the best GK's in the world. Man City lost tonight because Guardiola picked the wrong team and tactics and handed the initiative to Lyon. Mistakes happen, even to some of the best. www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11968092/gabriel-jesus-manchester-city-striker-is-a-superstar-in-waiting
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 16, 2020 1:33:31 GMT
Man City do NOT have decent strikers with Aguero injured. Stirling and Jesus are not that good but look good because they play in a team with such a creative midfield that creates so many chances for them. It would be interesting to see goals scored vs chances split by range from goal i.e. 1-10 yards, 11-20, etc. for these 2 players. I think Jesus will come out poor? Compare these players to Kane, Son, Ings, Ollie Watkins, Billy Sharp, etc. and it wil be noticeable. If we had a creative midfield, then the chances would come and the chances of more goals irrespective of the strikers although they do make a big difference. Ollie Watkins stands out in all 4 leagues for the way he plays; he rarely loses the ball? Reminds me of Rickie Lambert; one touch, lay it off or calmness in front of Goal! UTG Watched Man City today vs Lyon. Stirling missed an open goal from 3 yards with the ball on the ground to him and put it over the bar. He had a reasonable game but a terrible miss. Jesus missed a similar chance from even closer but ball was in the air. As I said above, these 2 players are NOT good enough for a team like Man City. Stirling has pace and does score some good goals; Jesus may score a few good ones once in a while but most of their goals, although don't quote me on that, come from very close range? Aguero, etc. would not have missed these chances except maybe once in a blue moon? As regards the Bayern vs Barca match, I think that game exemplified why Ronaldo is a better all round professional than Messi; he would not and does not give up for whichever team he is playing for? UTG So given the OP are you suggesting it is a straight fight between Liverpool and Man City to sign Samuel as their current back up strikers aren’t as good??!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2020 11:41:18 GMT
Watched Man City today vs Lyon. Stirling missed an open goal from 3 yards with the ball on the ground to him and put it over the bar. He had a reasonable game but a terrible miss. Jesus missed a similar chance from even closer but ball was in the air. As I said above, these 2 players are NOT good enough for a team like Man City. Stirling has pace and does score some good goals; Jesus may score a few good ones once in a while but most of their goals, although don't quote me on that, come from very close range? Aguero, etc. would not have missed these chances except maybe once in a blue moon? As regards the Bayern vs Barca match, I think that game exemplified why Ronaldo is a better all round professional than Messi; he would not and does not give up for whichever team he is playing for? UTG Everybody misses chances, even Aguero. Sterling and Gabriel Jesus are more than good enough to play for City, their records and ability clearly show that. The goalkeeper made a huge mistake, but that doesn't mean he is no longer good enough and is still one of the best GK's in the world. Man City lost tonight because Guardiola picked the wrong team and tactics and handed the initiative to Lyon. Mistakes happen, even to some of the best. www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11968092/gabriel-jesus-manchester-city-striker-is-a-superstar-in-waitingJesus always goes missing in the all big games, I'm amazed a club with City's spending power don't have a better backup No 9, as far as Stirling he's more off a wide player than striker anyway, if only he'd taken that chance on his weaker left foot than trying a more difficult shot with his right he would have probably scored.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2020 11:45:47 GMT
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Post by titchthephot on Aug 16, 2020 12:00:15 GMT
This isn't going to happen.. Only if JCH gets sold. 3 big tall targetman strikers makes absolutely no sense. It seems that it was a toss up between Samuel and Jo ah Ayunga and we went for the latter. This is dead in the water unless JCH gets sold. We need a small quick goalscorer now not someone who is just good in the air and at holding the ball up .....like Nichols? (incoming!!!!)
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 16, 2020 13:55:17 GMT
Man City do NOT have decent strikers with Aguero injured. Stirling and Jesus are not that good but look good because they play in a team with such a creative midfield that creates so many chances for them. It would be interesting to see goals scored vs chances split by range from goal i.e. 1-10 yards, 11-20, etc. for these 2 players. I think Jesus will come out poor? Compare these players to Kane, Son, Ings, Ollie Watkins, Billy Sharp, etc. and it wil be noticeable. If we had a creative midfield, then the chances would come and the chances of more goals irrespective of the strikers although they do make a big difference. Ollie Watkins stands out in all 4 leagues for the way he plays; he rarely loses the ball? Reminds me of Rickie Lambert; one touch, lay it off or calmness in front of Goal! UTG Watched Man City today vs Lyon. Stirling missed an open goal from 3 yards with the ball on the ground to him and put it over the bar. He had a reasonable game but a terrible miss. Jesus missed a similar chance from even closer but ball was in the air.As I said above, these 2 players are NOT good enough for a team like Man City. Stirling has pace and does score some good goals; Jesus may score a few good ones once in a while but most of their goals, although don't quote me on that, come from very close range? Aguero, etc. would not have missed these chances except maybe once in a blue moon? As regards the Bayern vs Barca match, I think that game exemplified why Ronaldo is a better all round professional than Messi; he would not and does not give up for whichever team he is playing for? UTG That must have been a miricle
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 15:12:54 GMT
Everybody misses chances, even Aguero. Sterling and Gabriel Jesus are more than good enough to play for City, their records and ability clearly show that. The goalkeeper made a huge mistake, but that doesn't mean he is no longer good enough and is still one of the best GK's in the world. Man City lost tonight because Guardiola picked the wrong team and tactics and handed the initiative to Lyon. Mistakes happen, even to some of the best. www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11968092/gabriel-jesus-manchester-city-striker-is-a-superstar-in-waitingJesus always goes missing in the all big games, I'm amazed a club with City's spending power don't have a better backup No 9, as far as Stirling he's more off a wide player than striker anyway, if only he'd taken that chance on his weaker left foot than trying a more difficult shot with his right he would have probably scored. Perhaps he should replace Ederson in goal. Jesus Saves!
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