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Post by neilv93 on Aug 3, 2020 16:08:10 GMT
As per Frosty's Live Q&A:
"On Upson and Ogogo, I could see one being moved on based on new deals being awarded to Hargreaves and Tomlinson, and the fact Garner wants a smaller squad than last season."
Personally I hope we keep Ogogo if only one of the two. Barrett and now Zain are creative, flair-type playmakers and I think we need someone with a bit of bit, steeliness and tackle-hard like Ogogo to beef up our midfield. I imagine both are on sizeable wages and wouldn't be surprised to see Upson depart. Ogogo also has a great relationship with JCH so another reason he's likely to stay - can't imagine it'll improve JCH's desire to sign a new deal if we sold one of his bezzies, irrespective of whether he's 'a professional' or not...
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 3, 2020 16:11:01 GMT
Without a doubt these one of these will leave. Someone reminded me on twitter a moment a go that we have Harries as well as Grant for the CDM role. Cant see Abs getting a look in with those about.
As for Upson, well I would have listed him last season anyway, and with Zain joining as well as having Barrett I cant see Upson getting a sniff either.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 3, 2020 16:12:23 GMT
I'd also keep Ogogo if we were going to keep one of them. He's got great energy and steeliness as you say, and he seems to be a really good character too.
I'd actually be a little bit sad to see Upson leave, but then again his inconsistency has been frustrating, and I doubt he'd get much game time if our new signings do well and stay fit.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 3, 2020 16:13:25 GMT
I'd also keep Ogogo if we were going to keep one of them. He's got great energy and steeliness as you say, and he seems to be a really good character too. I'd actually be a little bit sad to see Upson leave, but then again his inconsistency has been frustrating, and I doubt he'd get much game time if our new signings do well and stay fit. Agree with this Jomo.
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Post by yaz on Aug 3, 2020 16:14:47 GMT
I'd also keep Ogogo if we were going to keep one of them. He's got great energy and steeliness as you say, and he seems to be a really good character too. I'd actually be a little bit sad to see Upson leave, but then again his inconsistency has been frustrating, and I doubt he'd get much game time if our new signings do well and stay fit. As long as Ogogo changes his boot studs and keep off the floor!
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 3, 2020 16:15:13 GMT
I’d keep Ogogo. I can’t remember walking out the ground after a game thinking Upson was a stand-out player on too many occasions. If we let him leave, I think he would find a club in League 2, which tells the story really.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 3, 2020 16:23:13 GMT
Abu Ogogo is a great player in my eyes but can’t help but feel he’s one of those players Tommy W was describing as being a bit old fashioned and a GC kind of player.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up in Mansfield.
Upson didn’t set the world alight in his first season but thought he was ok last. I expect he’s on a killing though - if he is I’d move him on but I expect him to be hard to move on.
Let’s not forget that Bennett is still on the wage bill too.
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Post by alanrg on Aug 3, 2020 16:26:44 GMT
I would keep Ogogo and get rid of Upson
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Post by xenongas on Aug 3, 2020 16:31:44 GMT
I'd also keep Ogogo if we were going to keep one of them. He's got great energy and steeliness as you say, and he seems to be a really good character too. I'd actually be a little bit sad to see Upson leave, but then again his inconsistency has been frustrating, and I doubt he'd get much game time if our new signings do well and stay fit. Pretty much my thoughts too.
Abu may not have the quality on the ball BG is looking for but I think he would be a loss in the same way Sinclair was.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Aug 3, 2020 16:31:47 GMT
Going on the way Garner wants us to play football next season I’d probably keep Upson out of the two.
I think he’s a lot more comfortable on the ball and I think we’ve got a little more coverage for the dirty side of the game in grant and Hargreaves. Upson still has the ability to pick a pass, make things happen and retain possession.
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Post by james246 on Aug 3, 2020 16:35:29 GMT
I think it would be mad to let Abu go, the guy is box to box he gets around the pitch and makes life very tough for opponents. Last season I thought he was our most effective player.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 3, 2020 16:37:10 GMT
I’d keep Ogogo. I can’t remember walking out the ground after a game thinking Upson was a stand-out player on too many occasions. If we let him leave, I think he would find a club in League 2, which tells the story really. Ironically, given I'd keep Ogogo too, I think Upson is more likely to find a L1 club. Whilst we all have doubts about whether he really is a fit-for-purpose L1 playmaker or not, plenty of clubs in this division could/would happily take him I feel, not less due to ability to add goals from midfield. Salaries-aside, I wouldn't be surprised to see Upson join a Shrewsbury/Gillingham type club. Whereas, Abs I could see go somewhere like Mansfield for obvious reasons.
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Post by completewingback on Aug 3, 2020 16:39:01 GMT
No-brainer for me. Ogogo stays, Upson goes.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 3, 2020 16:40:22 GMT
As per Frosty's Live Q&A: "On Upson and Ogogo, I could see one being moved on based on new deals being awarded to Hargreaves and Tomlinson, and the fact Garner wants a smaller squad than last season." Personally I hope we keep Ogogo if only one of the two. Barrett and now Zain are creative, flair-type playmakers and I think we need someone with a bit of bit, steeliness and tackle-hard like Ogogo to beef up our midfield. I imagine both are on sizeable wages and wouldn't be surprised to see Upson depart. Ogogo also has a great relationship with JCH so another reason he's likely to stay - can't imagine it'll improve JCH's desire to sign a new deal if we sold one of his bezzies, irrespective of whether he's 'a professional' or not... Agreed 👍 Every team needs a water carrier
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Post by Marshy on Aug 3, 2020 16:43:32 GMT
Upson to the sh** for 300k to derail our promotion push before it even starts.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 3, 2020 16:44:34 GMT
Ogogo's a bit of a loose cannon, he doesn't seem to fit the BG mould and I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been told already to find a new club, I'm a bit surprised GC came in for OC rather than Ogogo, although perhaps he got the former on the cheap.
Upson's a difficult one to call as on his day he'd fit in well in a BG team, particularly as he seems to have moved away from having a team of just youngsters. I wonder where BG stands with Little as he now seems 3rd choice RB behind Hare & Rodman and we hardly need him as cover for the CB's, as I assume he's on decent L1 money.
Given we're going to be playing more football this season I wonder if we can actually fit Bennett into the team and get him motivated to play?
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Post by piratesfchhh on Aug 3, 2020 16:50:27 GMT
Ogogo over Upson every time.
Mr consistent, hard working, great attitude. Exactly who you want around with a load of youngsters here.
Upson flits in and out too much for me, he'll end up in league 2
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 3, 2020 16:57:04 GMT
Ogogo over Upson every time. Mr consistent, hard working, great attitude. Exactly who you want around with a load of youngsters here. Upson flits in and out too much for me, he'll end up in league 2 Are you sure about that? I'd be surprised if any player we release, rather than sell, get another L1 contract.
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Post by markczgas on Aug 3, 2020 17:03:35 GMT
If 2 of these have to go then I'd keep Ogogo and Upson and move Rodman on (and Bennett as well of course).
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 3, 2020 17:07:48 GMT
If 2 of these have to go then I'd keep Ogogo and Upson and move Rodman on (and Bennett as well of course). Agree with that, I’d prioritise those two over Abu and Ed. That said Alex is good to have around the club as he’s a bit of an ‘elder statesman’. Don’t rate him too much as a footballer personally though. Kyle Bennett need say no more.
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