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Post by Gasshole on Sept 20, 2020 1:45:58 GMT
6) There was no booing and the crowd never got on his back. I don’t think the body language of some of the cardboard cutouts helped though. There was at lest one behind the goal whose head had dropped fairly early on. Several were found floating face down in the Thatchers bogs, so sad. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Sept 20, 2020 6:02:17 GMT
To a certain extent it was always going to be like this after two games. We all pretty much wrote off our chances of getting anything from Sunderland and Ipswich so of course, the performances become the most important thing. These can be interpreted in different ways. We were 10 minutes or so away from having come away with two battling draws from those two fixtures and may well have got that if it wasn’t for a bad though forgivable error of judgement from Ehmer.
In those last 10 minutes we let Ipswich completely overrun us and that is disappointing. They did look technically very good in that period but we played too deep and couldn’t keep the ball. The question is whether it was us making them look good or if they will genuinely be a top team in this division. Probably a bit of both.
Contrary to the swell of opinion on here there were some positives to take. In the first half in particular we looked much more comfortable on the ball compared against cup game against them. The possession stats were a bit better and Hanlon looks good, if he can impact the game in better areas. Our players weren’t afraid to put their bodies on the line and our capitulation seemed to be more to do with shape rather than lack of fight.
Of course there are genuine areas of concern over the back three and defensive midfield areas. I don’t think we have bad players in these position necessarily but Grant looks lacking in confidence at the moment and the back three haven’t really gelled yet. Good signs from Harries at times though. Kilgour made some good blocks but was poor for the second goal.
The jury should rightly be out but in my opinion should take a bit longer to decide on their verdict. Improvement in performance and results should be expected against some of the more standard or lesser teams in the division and hopefully this will be forthcoming in the next few games.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 20, 2020 8:13:18 GMT
To a certain extent it was always going to be like this after two games. We all pretty much wrote off our chances of getting anything from Sunderland and Ipswich so of course, the performances become the most important thing. These can be interpreted in different ways. We were 10 minutes or so away from having come away with two battling draws from those two fixtures and may well have got that if it wasn’t for a bad though forgivable error of judgement from Ehmer. In those last 10 minutes we let Ipswich completely overrun us and that is disappointing. Do you honestly think the performances were good before we conceded in both of our league games? Personally I thought it was inevitable we were going to concede in both games and I’m surprised we didn’t get hit by more. We achieved a point at Sunderland by parking the bus and we did the same against Ipswich at home. Under GC when these tactics actually worked the Football was apparently sh** and our manager was a PE teacher or something and it was ok to slate the manager when we were in our best form at this level this side of the millennia. Is it acceptable under BG just because he’s trendy? Because he’s come from a prem coaching background. Because he uses fancy words? He’s a sh** Graham Coughlan and the football has not improved. Don’t forget the two cup performances too which were also diabolical with very little in positives to write home about. |
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 20, 2020 9:01:31 GMT
To a certain extent it was always going to be like this after two games. We all pretty much wrote off our chances of getting anything from Sunderland and Ipswich so of course, the performances become the most important thing. These can be interpreted in different ways. We were 10 minutes or so away from having come away with two battling draws from those two fixtures and may well have got that if it wasn’t for a bad though forgivable error of judgement from Ehmer. In those last 10 minutes we let Ipswich completely overrun us and that is disappointing. They did look technically very good in that period but we played too deep and couldn’t keep the ball. The question is whether it was us making them look good or if they will genuinely be a top team in this division. Probably a bit of both. Contrary to the swell of opinion on here there were some positives to take. In the first half in particular we looked much more comfortable on the ball compared against cup game against them. The possession stats were a bit better and Hanlon looks good, if he can impact the game in better areas. Our players weren’t afraid to put their bodies on the line and our capitulation seemed to be more to do with shape rather than lack of fight. Of course there are genuine areas of concern over the back three and defensive midfield areas. I don’t think we have bad players in these position necessarily but Grant looks lacking in confidence at the moment and the back three haven’t really gelled yet. Good signs from Harries at times though. Kilgour made some good blocks but was poor for the second goal. The jury should rightly be out but in my opinion should take a bit longer to decide on their verdict. Improvement in performance and results should be expected against some of the more standard or lesser teams in the division and hopefully this will be forthcoming in the next few games. Thanks May 2nd, good balanced view, good points. A lot of the posts on both league threads will have been caused by the frustration of giving goals away in the last 10 minutes of both matches. If we hadn’t then it would be very different with a completely different feeling about the start. I rarely compare us to other teams but watching Quest last night when you see other teams attacking they usually have players busting a gut to get into the box. Us, all we’ve got is Hanlan up there. Hard to see how we can be expected to score many. That aspect more than the defence worries me. UTG! |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 20, 2020 9:07:56 GMT
To a certain extent it was always going to be like this after two games. We all pretty much wrote off our chances of getting anything from Sunderland and Ipswich so of course, the performances become the most important thing. These can be interpreted in different ways. We were 10 minutes or so away from having come away with two battling draws from those two fixtures and may well have got that if it wasn’t for a bad though forgivable error of judgement from Ehmer. In those last 10 minutes we let Ipswich completely overrun us and that is disappointing. They did look technically very good in that period but we played too deep and couldn’t keep the ball. The question is whether it was us making them look good or if they will genuinely be a top team in this division. Probably a bit of both. Contrary to the swell of opinion on here there were some positives to take. In the first half in particular we looked much more comfortable on the ball compared against cup game against them. The possession stats were a bit better and Hanlon looks good, if he can impact the game in better areas. Our players weren’t afraid to put their bodies on the line and our capitulation seemed to be more to do with shape rather than lack of fight. Of course there are genuine areas of concern over the back three and defensive midfield areas. I don’t think we have bad players in these position necessarily but Grant looks lacking in confidence at the moment and the back three haven’t really gelled yet. Good signs from Harries at times though. Kilgour made some good blocks but was poor for the second goal. The jury should rightly be out but in my opinion should take a bit longer to decide on their verdict. Improvement in performance and results should be expected against some of the more standard or lesser teams in the division and hopefully this will be forthcoming in the next few games. The voice of reason amongst a lot of over the top hysteria! |
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 20, 2020 10:12:12 GMT
So now we should be happy as long as it stays 0 0 and the last 15 minutes dont count. Jesus wept
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 20, 2020 10:32:00 GMT
Don't see why we should be writing ourselves off v Sunderland and Ipswich....we beat them both last season.
Or I suppose that doesn't count?
We should learn the lessons of non league where we don't expect to roll up and beat teams because we have a bigger fanbase and more money than them, nor should we roll up and expect to lose because of the opposite.
Every team in a league are there because they deserve to be from the previous season.
It's obvious from 020590 post the jury was always ever going to be out unless we stormed a win in two league matches starting from September.
Unfortunately, I've seen the same game, tactics and bewilderment for the previous 10 months to make me think jury should have delivered the guilty verdict by now just on plain evidence presented.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 20, 2020 11:10:28 GMT
So now we should be happy as long as it stays 0 0 and the last 15 minutes dont count. Jesus wept I wasn’t saying we should be happy bluebiro, I was just saying that had we not conceded then then I suspect we would have had a different response on here. That we did concede has meant a good deal of frustration that we did pretty well defensively up until the 80th minute. Concerns about our attacking abilities would have still been there. So no, I don’t think anyone’s said we should be happy. UTG! |
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