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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 6:56:18 GMT
I’m a stat man
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 26, 2020 7:08:07 GMT
Worrying stats wherever you look.  Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for. Agree in principle but there’s a difference between having patience and accepting us getting schooled every week. I’d be content to see it out if we were getting the odd result here or there, and I don’t mean the odd draw or win against Sunderland. I mean being comfortably away from the relegation zone and having at least faith in our manager not to sandbag us to the bottom of the league. Someone who not once wanted GC out. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 26, 2020 7:08:56 GMT
Worrying stats wherever you look. Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for. I don't see a "complete change" in the style of play or much sign of it. I do see plenty of long balls and a team getting dominated in possession most games and a lack of attacking quality with few shots on target. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2020 7:28:19 GMT
We've no real excuses today, in my view, as Donny should let us play football, that's if we can get the ball, so we shouldn't need to revert to the long ball just to clear our lines.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2020 7:42:12 GMT
Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for. I don't see a "complete change" in the style of play or much sign of it. I do see plenty of long balls and a team getting dominated in possession most games and a lack of attacking quality with few shots on target. We don't have an identity at the moment. I've seen spells of trying to pass, spells of long ball and spells of pressing but none of it is clear what we are trying to do. What our game plan is. |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 26, 2020 8:11:54 GMT
I don't see a "complete change" in the style of play or much sign of it. I do see plenty of long balls and a team getting dominated in possession most games and a lack of attacking quality with few shots on target. We don't have an identity at the moment. I've seen spells of trying to pass, spells of long ball and spells of pressing but none of it is clear what we are trying to do. What our game plan is. The bottom line, which relates to your stats, is that our forward play is very poor. I personally think Ayunga is underated and seems to be looked at as a kind of reserve. He is strong, his hold up play is excellent and he is very direct, just what we need imo. He is raw, but we have to have patience, work and support these players in my view. |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 26, 2020 8:15:09 GMT
Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for. I don't see a "complete change" in the style of play or much sign of it. I do see plenty of long balls and a team getting dominated in possession most games and a lack of attacking quality with few shots on target. I understand the objective is complete change isn't it? Although not not ruling out the 'mix' of direct football and playing out from the back. |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 26, 2020 8:23:23 GMT
Yes that's true,, but for those that wanted a complete change from GC's style of play and this probably includes Wael, they are going to have to wait and have patience. I can't see where it's possible to sign virtually a complete new team then coach them to play BG's way quickly so we can't see the join and we are immediately successful this season. Yes the problem is the baggage BG has from last season and I personally think it was naive of him to immediately change a winning side. The change of style and staff is so great that I can only see it as a long term project. I hope those fans who didn't support GC will support (as best that's possible these days) BG. I think those fans have this responsibility. As the saying goes....be careful what you wish for. Agree in principle but there’s a difference between having patience and accepting us getting schooled every week. I’d be content to see it out if we were getting the odd result here or there, and I don’t mean the odd draw or win against Sunderland. I mean being comfortably away from the relegation zone and having at least faith in our manager not to sandbag us to the bottom of the league. Someone who not once wanted GC out. Yes I was happy with GC too because I look at the facts, which is what we we are doing now with BG and it's not pleasant. I actually disagree with many fans on last week's performance, I thought we played the best we have so far this season, but we gave away the ball far too often and gave them two goals. Our forward play is very poor though, we need to improve this and keep possession. If we can do this we will start to win games imo. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 26, 2020 9:24:35 GMT
We don't have an identity at the moment. I've seen spells of trying to pass, spells of long ball and spells of pressing but none of it is clear what we are trying to do. What our game plan is. The bottom line, which relates to your stats, is that our forward play is very poor. I personally think Ayunga is underated and seems to be looked at as a kind of reserve. He is strong, his hold up play is excellent and he is very direct, just what we need imo. He is raw, but we have to have patience, work and support these players in my view. Not sure if it's just a coincidence but every time Hanlon is replaced by Ayunga we seem to concide goals. I feel Hanlon is the better option to start at present, but would like to see them both on the pitch together. |
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Post by althepirate on Sept 26, 2020 10:22:24 GMT
The bottom line, which relates to your stats, is that our forward play is very poor. I personally think Ayunga is underated and seems to be looked at as a kind of reserve. He is strong, his hold up play is excellent and he is very direct, just what we need imo. He is raw, but we have to have patience, work and support these players in my view. Not sure if it's just a coincidence but every time Hanlon is replaced by Ayunga we seem to concide goals. I feel Hanlon is the better option to start at present, but would like to see them both on the pitch together. Yes me too |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2020 15:27:23 GMT
1 SOT vs 6 against us as things stand today..
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2020 16:07:38 GMT
1 SOT vs 7 against us on target today. Oh dear.
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Post by pirate on Sept 26, 2020 16:10:32 GMT
1 SOT vs 7 against us on target today. Oh dear. Better than I thought. I predicted 9 on target for Doncaster. |
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Post by fanatical on Sept 26, 2020 16:12:13 GMT
The Blackpool game from last season is a concern. Blackpool got their captain sent off in the 1st half and yet still managed to cut us open several times early in the 2nd half. Kilgour scored a worldy and JML scored a deflection before Blackpool missed a one-on-one towards the end. Garner's first win and a lucky 3 points. not sure what you are saying? but presume you are saying 'we are doomed' |
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Post by fanatical on Sept 26, 2020 16:14:09 GMT
Possession stats for competitive games under BG Wimbledon (H) 59% Fleetwood (A) 43% MK Dons (A) 39% Coventry (H) 43% Doncaster (H) 35% Coventry (A) 41% Rotherham (A) 40% Fleetwood (H) 40% Bolton (A) 47% Coventry (H) 43% Wycombe (A) 55% Tranmere (A) 51% Blackpool (H) 58% Sunderland (A) 38% Shrewsbury (H) 47% Southend (A) 55% Sunderland (H) 38% Ipswich (A) 48% Sunderland (A) 28% Ipswich (H) 45% Average - Home 45% and Away 44% So we have bossed the ball in 5 of his games in charge one of which was against Blackpool who only had 10 men for much of the game. Wonderful - but I thought it was goals that count not possession? |
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Post by fanatical on Sept 26, 2020 16:16:11 GMT
We don't have an identity at the moment. I've seen spells of trying to pass, spells of long ball and spells of pressing but none of it is clear what we are trying to do. What our game plan is. The bottom line, which relates to your stats, is that our forward play is very poor. I personally think Ayunga is underated and seems to be looked at as a kind of reserve. He is strong, his hold up play is excellent and he is very direct, just what we need imo. He is raw, but we have to have patience, work and support these players in my view. I agree with you - we are crap |
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Post by dmacca65 on Sept 26, 2020 16:17:22 GMT
1 less than I predicted on target, but they had less...Happy days!
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Post by lavalamp on Sept 26, 2020 17:51:17 GMT
At least in the hoof ball stats we are well down the table in 21st place in league one. This is from an article in the Peterborough telegraph, sorry I don't know how to post a link. No doubt someone on here can. Interestingly our opponents on Saturday are in 22nd place so according to that we should see plenty of tippy tappy stuff this weekend and hardly any hoof ball. Certain 0-0 result then and one for the betting slip Please tell me you didn't actually bet on a 0-0 today. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 28, 2020 21:00:21 GMT
www.footcharts.co.uk/index.cfm?task=basics_shotsontargetWe are bottom by some distance for shots on target and shots on target against us. 5 shots on target and 21 against us. - 16. 1.67 avg on target 7 avg shots on target against us. -16. The next worse is Shrews and Rochdale who are - 10. Ipswich have played both us and Rochdale so we're either both really sh** or Ipswich could be strong this season.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 28, 2020 21:28:59 GMT
Possession stats for competitive games under BG Wimbledon (H) 59% Fleetwood (A) 43% MK Dons (A) 39% Coventry (H) 43% Doncaster (H) 35% Coventry (A) 41% Rotherham (A) 40% Fleetwood (H) 40% Bolton (A) 47% Coventry (H) 43% Wycombe (A) 55% Tranmere (A) 51% Blackpool (H) 58% Sunderland (A) 38% Shrewsbury (H) 47% Southend (A) 55% Sunderland (H) 38% Ipswich (A) 48% Sunderland (A) 28% Ipswich (H) 45% Average - Home 45% and Away 44% So we have bossed the ball in 5 of his games in charge one of which was against Blackpool who only had 10 men for much of the game. These stats are pretty meaningless - the key is not how much possession the team has, but what you do with the ball once you have possession. West Ham beat Wolves 4-0 yesterday - and had 37% possession. They were not lucky - they used the ball well when they had it and were very comfortable winners - Wolves didn't look like scoring and had 2 shots on target for their 63% possession. People laugh at managers when they say their team played well without the ball - but that West Ham performance is a classic example of that. It would be more interesting to see if there is any correlation between possession and results. |
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