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Post by socrates on Sept 26, 2020 22:30:08 GMT
Nah just blame it on the ref and get outplayed next game. It’s the Garner way. Joking aside your absolutely right that is the Rovers way and I think that’s exactly why the fans don’t like him. He’s the least Rovers kind of person ever to manager the Rovers. And his records crap. We can hardly blame the supporters for not taking to him. What exactly is a 'Rovers kind of person'? Not somebody who whines when the chips are down. Somebody who when things aren’t going well stands up makes himself heard and gives it everything. That’s the fans , our best managers and the vibe around our club when we’re doing well and also when we were at our lowest point in our history in 2015
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Post by biggles on Sept 26, 2020 22:55:26 GMT
rovers 1 northampton0 what do you think of the performance today ben i blame the ref
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Post by yetigas on Sept 26, 2020 23:01:02 GMT
What exactly is a 'Rovers kind of person'? Not somebody who whines when the chips are down. Somebody who when things aren’t going well stands up makes himself heard and gives it everything. That’s the fans , our best managers and the vibe around our club when we’re doing well and also when we were at our lowest point in our history in 2015 Maybe its too late but not sure I understand your reply. Do you mean managers who get agitated and shout a lot in the dugout?
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Post by axegas on Sept 27, 2020 0:17:08 GMT
He’s the best person named Ben to ever manage the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 0:41:30 GMT
I agree. Historically this club doesn’t like winners, so there is something comfortable and appropriately “Rovers” about a guy with with a 2 in 24 win record. Garner fits into our history as snugly as an old pair of shoes. That’s just absolute b0llox, you sure you’re gas? We lost our home and had to move to a different city to play our football. We stood up , we turned up and we worked our balls off to make sure that not only the club survived, but against all odds it succeeded. Not sure what era you’re from, but it’s not mine. Maybe in those days, I started following the Gas in 95/96 and my era has been characterised by sh** managers, no training ground of our own, a stadium that had been left to go to wrack and ruin and a passive acceptance of failure for the most part. I recall a group of lads storming out under some hopeless manager in the 2000’s after another insipid performance and shouting at the crowd “you’ll clap this lot into the conference” and bugger me, we eventually did pretty much. Only venting our anger after the horse had bolted. I don’t think we, as a fanbase, have the fire in our belly that other fanbases do. Before DC we had one of the worst records for promotions in the football league, we are not a successful club on the whole and in the last 20 years since Holloway left we have had some diabolical managers. In that sense, yes, Garner fits snugly into the pantheon of Graydon, Bater, Thompson, Atkins, Buckle, etc and actually on paper is worse than all of those. Just let that sink in for a minute. Worse than even Phil Bater. And yet he is still here and he still has fans arguing for him to be given more time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 6:12:02 GMT
That’s just absolute b0llox, you sure you’re gas? We lost our home and had to move to a different city to play our football. We stood up , we turned up and we worked our balls off to make sure that not only the club survived, but against all odds it succeeded. Not sure what era you’re from, but it’s not mine. That's getting on for near 40 years ago pal. We've been bumbling around the bottom half of league 2 for most of the last 20 years and people have been lapping it up. Write everything off till Christmas then a relly scrap for the back half of the season. That's our tried and tested formula season in season out. Even when we went up in 2007 we were 15th in about March. He said historically. Didn’t define a particular era.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 27, 2020 6:17:16 GMT
He’s the best person named Ben to ever manage the club. He's not even that. We had a manager called Ben Hall in 1920-21 with a 42.2% win record.
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Post by althepirate on Sept 27, 2020 6:26:02 GMT
He’s the best person named Ben to ever manage the club. He's not even that. We had a manager called Ben Hall in 1920-21 with a 42.2% win record. BLM = Ben Loses Matches
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Post by justin blue on Sept 27, 2020 7:21:04 GMT
Ben I hope your experience here will not damage your future prospects, but whatever you hoped to achieve shows no signs of happening. Maybe wrong time wrong club or a combination of both, but whatever the reason it's time for both of our sakes that you move on asap.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 27, 2020 7:38:30 GMT
That’s just absolute b0llox, you sure you’re gas? We lost our home and had to move to a different city to play our football. We stood up , we turned up and we worked our balls off to make sure that not only the club survived, but against all odds it succeeded. Not sure what era you’re from, but it’s not mine. Maybe in those days, I started following the Gas in 95/96 and my era has been characterised by sh** managers, no training ground of our own, a stadium that had been left to go to wrack and ruin and a passive acceptance of failure for the most part. I recall a group of lads storming out under some hopeless manager in the 2000’s after another insipid performance and shouting at the crowd “you’ll clap this lot into the conference” and bugger me, we eventually did pretty much. Only venting our anger after the horse had bolted. I don’t think we, as a fanbase, have the fire in our belly that other fanbases do. Before DC we had one of the worst records for promotions in the football league, we are not a successful club on the whole and in the last 20 years since Holloway left we have had some diabolical managers. In that sense, yes, Garner fits snugly into the pantheon of Graydon, Bater, Thompson, Atkins, Buckle, etc and actually on paper is worse than all of those. Just let that sink in for a minute. Worse than even Phil Bater. And yet he is still here and he still has fans arguing for him to be given more time. I do completely see what you're saying, and maybe as a fanbase we do go too far in our apathetic acceptance of mediocrity. However, I'm not sure either that constantly kicking up a stink would really do much for our overall morale as a fanbase, and also the players and staff? We quite often see division and in-fighting these days when things aren't going well, and I personally find that that detracts even further from my enjoyment of following the Gas. Not sure what the answer is though, and as I said I do understand where you're coming from as well.
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Post by justin blue on Sept 27, 2020 7:41:05 GMT
He’s the best person named Ben to ever manage the club. Not quite: Ben Hall June 1920-April 1921 W19 D7 L19
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 27, 2020 7:44:45 GMT
I recall a group of lads storming out under some hopeless manager in the 2000’s after another insipid performance and shouting at the crowd “you’ll clap this lot into the conference” and bugger me, we eventually did pretty much. Only venting our anger after the horse had bolted. I don’t think we, as a fanbase, have the fire in our belly that other fanbases do. Before DC... Istr a group of lads storming out under some manager in 2014 after another insipid performance and trying to get on the team coach, oh wait, that was DC. Thing is, it's not about whether you've got fire in your belly or not. It's easy to say, Manager Out! when you don't have to deal with any of the consequences of getting rid of them. It's so Dam easy literally anyone can do it. It's not about fire, that doesn't make you right (as those who leafleted DC's training ground will know - or rather won't know coz I suspect they wouldn't have learned from it). Fire just means you're likely to be critical before giving anyone a fair chance; see all those who dismissed JCH the day he arrived. Fwiw, looking back, you can see that pretty much every manager we've got rid of was got rid of at just about the right time. With the benefit of hindsight obviously you'd get rid of them all sooner, but pretty much every individual went at just about the time they needed to go within reason, so it's not like we have a history of hanging on to foundering regimes. The ones that should never have been appointed in the first pace (again with hindsight, stick BG on that list, probably) still needed to be given a fair go, otherwise don't appoint them. But once you've appointed them it doesn't make much sense to get rid of them as soon as the first disgruntled fan starts to shout sh** behind the East Stand dug out. Every fan base has a mix of fans from those who demand the chairman go for a missed pass, and those who back the management to the bitter end. I don't really see any difference for us, compared to other teams (talking about the fans that actually go to matches, not the ones who watch their teams on telly and then phone up 606 coz they're not winning the Prem).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 7:54:53 GMT
Maybe in those days, I started following the Gas in 95/96 and my era has been characterised by sh** managers, no training ground of our own, a stadium that had been left to go to wrack and ruin and a passive acceptance of failure for the most part. I recall a group of lads storming out under some hopeless manager in the 2000’s after another insipid performance and shouting at the crowd “you’ll clap this lot into the conference” and bugger me, we eventually did pretty much. Only venting our anger after the horse had bolted. I don’t think we, as a fanbase, have the fire in our belly that other fanbases do. Before DC we had one of the worst records for promotions in the football league, we are not a successful club on the whole and in the last 20 years since Holloway left we have had some diabolical managers. In that sense, yes, Garner fits snugly into the pantheon of Graydon, Bater, Thompson, Atkins, Buckle, etc and actually on paper is worse than all of those. Just let that sink in for a minute. Worse than even Phil Bater. And yet he is still here and he still has fans arguing for him to be given more time. I do completely see what you're saying, and maybe as a fanbase we do go too far in our apathetic acceptance of mediocrity. However, I'm not sure either that constantly kicking up a stink would really do much for our overall morale as a fanbase, and also the players and staff? We quite often see division and in-fighting these days when things aren't going well, and I personally find that that detracts even further from my enjoyment of following the Gas. Not sure what the answer is though, and as I said I do understand where you're coming from as well. Likewise, I appreciate what you are saying and it’s true- what does complaining change? Venting feels necessary at the moment though because while the C*** fans lap it up on their forum and declare Garner their favourite Rovers manager ever it’s a way of me distancing myself from it and saying “this sh** show is not in my name”. I have high standards and expectations for this club and I would not be hanging about in showing Garner the door if I was in charge. Garner’s win ratio has drawn national attention, we’re like a circus curiosity- the club that will not sack it’s manager despite only two wins in a calendar year. It needs sorting and ASAP.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 27, 2020 8:04:07 GMT
That's the worry now we are a national joke. What manager with any sort of pedigree wants to join a club at the foot of the table with all eyes on it watching every defeat and becoming the butt of jokes and ridicule to the likes of wycombe and the rest that we are supposedly superior to?like Crawley our.next.managers will be on a merry go round from the amateur leagues of Syria.turkey romania and Georgia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 8:06:26 GMT
That's the worry now we are a national joke. What manager with any sort of pedigree wants to join a club at the foot of the table with all eyes on it watching every defeat and becoming the butt of jokes and ridicule to the likes of wycombe and the rest that we are supposedly superior to?like Crawley our.next.managers will be on a merry go round from the amateur leagues of Syria.turkey romania and Georgia. We are the Wycombe of league one currently. Every team will be licking their lips when they come to play us.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 27, 2020 8:08:50 GMT
That's the worry now we are a national joke. What manager with any sort of pedigree wants to join a club at the foot of the table with all eyes on it watching every defeat and becoming the butt of jokes and ridicule to the likes of wycombe and the rest that we are supposedly superior to?like Crawley our.next.managers will be on a merry go round from the amateur leagues of Syria.turkey romania and Georgia. We are the Wycombe of league one currently. Every team will be licking their lips when they come to play us. At least Wycombe won something last season and are punching above their level.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 27, 2020 8:10:41 GMT
Yep at least they took the punt on promotion.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 27, 2020 8:22:59 GMT
He's not even that. We had a manager called Ben Hall in 1920-21 with a 42.2% win record. BLM = Ben Loses Matches Ben’s Losses Matter . . .
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 27, 2020 8:27:16 GMT
Ben’s Losses Matter . . . Ben Loves Moaning.
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Post by gasstrictband on Sept 27, 2020 8:34:24 GMT
Ben loves meat.
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