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Josh Hare
Sept 26, 2020 19:04:48 GMT
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Post by axegas on Sept 26, 2020 19:04:48 GMT
Can’t for the life of me think why Garner hasn’t given Hare more opportunities this season. Today, he decided to play Kilgour out of position rather than start him.
Hare really impressed me up until he got injured last year, with one of the strengths of his game being that he got up the pitch and tried to play balls into the box.
I would’ve thought that a system with wingbacks would be perfect for him and Hanlan really needs more service than what he’s currently getting.
Hope Garner considers giving him a run of games going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:07:05 GMT
I expect he will once Josh recovers from his injury niggle.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2020 19:11:07 GMT
Can’t for the life of me think why Garner hasn’t given Hare more opportunities this season. Today, he decided to play Kilgour out of position rather than start him. Hare really impressed me up until he got injured last year, with one of the strengths of his game being that he got up the pitch and tried to play balls into the box. I would’ve thought that a system with wingbacks would be perfect for him and Hanlan really needs more service than what he’s currently getting. Hope Garner considers giving him a run of games going forward. Am I missing something? I assume he was injured?
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Josh Hare
Sept 26, 2020 19:15:31 GMT
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Post by axegas on Sept 26, 2020 19:15:31 GMT
Can’t for the life of me think why Garner hasn’t given Hare more opportunities this season. Today, he decided to play Kilgour out of position rather than start him. Hare really impressed me up until he got injured last year, with one of the strengths of his game being that he got up the pitch and tried to play balls into the box. I would’ve thought that a system with wingbacks would be perfect for him and Hanlan really needs more service than what he’s currently getting. Hope Garner considers giving him a run of games going forward. Am I missing something? I assume he was injured? Fit and training with the squad today according to the Radio Bristol commentator. Played against Walsall in the EFL Trophy too, so I assumed he wasn’t injured.
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Post by socrates on Sept 26, 2020 19:29:48 GMT
Can’t for the life of me think why Garner hasn’t given Hare more opportunities this season. Today, he decided to play Kilgour out of position rather than start him. Hare really impressed me up until he got injured last year, with one of the strengths of his game being that he got up the pitch and tried to play balls into the box. I would’ve thought that a system with wingbacks would be perfect for him and Hanlan really needs more service than what he’s currently getting. Hope Garner considers giving him a run of games going forward. When Coughlan switched from the original back four he used first 3 games to 3-5-2 Hare was our best creator of goals, his crosses for JCH were fantastic . I can’t remember a single decent cross from any of our wing backs so far this season. The reason ? Probably because we haven’t got a wing back capable other than Hare except perhaps leahy of playing as a wing back at this level who I think has been better than Walsall fans said he is and to be fair is our only scorer this Season. The fact that Garner went with wing backs today and chose Kilgour as wing back pretty much sums up how clueless Garner has been with his squad so far. I wouldn’t blame Alfie if he put a transfer request in before the windows shut. I think Garner will stop his progress.
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Josh Hare
Sept 26, 2020 19:42:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:42:29 GMT
Assumption. The matriarch of all f@ck ups
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Josh Hare
Sept 26, 2020 20:07:40 GMT
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Post by yaz on Sept 26, 2020 20:07:40 GMT
Can’t for the life of me think why Garner hasn’t given Hare more opportunities this season. Today, he decided to play Kilgour out of position rather than start him. Hare really impressed me up until he got injured last year, with one of the strengths of his game being that he got up the pitch and tried to play balls into the box. I would’ve thought that a system with wingbacks would be perfect for him and Hanlan really needs more service than what he’s currently getting. Hope Garner considers giving him a run of games going forward. When Coughlan switched from the original back four he used first 3 games to 3-5-2 Hare was our best creator of goals, his crosses for JCH were fantastic . I can’t remember a single decent cross from any of our wing backs so far this season. The reason ? Probably because we haven’t got a wing back capable other than Hare except perhaps leahy of playing as a wing back at this level who I think has been better than Walsall fans said he is and to be fair is our only scorer this Season. The fact that Garner went with wing backs today and chose Kilgour as wing back pretty much sums up how clueless Garner has been with his squad so far. I wouldn’t blame Alfie if he put a transfer request in before the windows shut. I think Garner will stop his progress. Agree Always liked Leahy and Grant as wing backs. They both crossed well. How many decent crosses were there for the team today? Leahy is like Browne; may make a few mistakes and clearances may not stay in but he’s an attacking wing back! As for the post about Grant being injured, we seem to have had too much of that with some our players injuries and never quite being the same again? Examples are Sinclair, Sercombe, Leadbitter, Ollie maybe, Grant, etc. We have also had managers who don’t seem to like to play certain players, eg. Broom, Telford, Lines, etc. Up The Wings UTG
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 20:23:13 GMT
Am I missing something? I assume he was injured? Fit and training with the squad today according to the Radio Bristol commentator. Played against Walsall in the EFL Trophy too, so I assumed he wasn’t injured. Hare and Kelly travelled with the squad with slight injuries. Both failed prematch fitness tests. Source? Our manager before yesterday's game.
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Post by 4d on Mar 17, 2021 19:07:39 GMT
What is happening with Hare? The best crosser of a ball in our squad yet can’t even make the bench. Was one of our main sources of creativity during our good spell in October.
Never fancied him defensively in a back 4 but an ideal wingback and could have slotted in for Rodman without any disruption to the shape.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 19:17:28 GMT
What is happening with Hare? The best crosser of a ball in our squad yet can’t even make the bench. Was one of our main sources of creativity during our good spell in October. Never fancied him defensively in a back 4 but an ideal wingback and could have slotted in for Rodman without any disruption to the shape. Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle.
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Post by 4d on Mar 17, 2021 19:26:39 GMT
What is happening with Hare? The best crosser of a ball in our squad yet can’t even make the bench. Was one of our main sources of creativity during our good spell in October. Never fancied him defensively in a back 4 but an ideal wingback and could have slotted in for Rodman without any disruption to the shape. Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle. The way we’ve been playing with Williams covering the right side Rodman wasn’t doing a great deal of defensive work and he’s no worse than Leahy defensively. Even just as a sub to give us a different option to try to open teams up late on, especially with Ayunga waiting in the box. Our crossing is generally pretty poor. Agree he’s not got pace but neither did Beckham and he had a pretty good career out of a good right boot.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2021 20:01:31 GMT
What is happening with Hare? The best crosser of a ball in our squad yet can’t even make the bench. Was one of our main sources of creativity during our good spell in October. Never fancied him defensively in a back 4 but an ideal wingback and could have slotted in for Rodman without any disruption to the shape. Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle. Since when did Hare turn into such a poor player? Pretty sure we were glad to see him return from injury late last season, which is odd if he's such a poor player. One thing's for certain, he's a damn sight better footballer than the utterly useless Little.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 20:33:18 GMT
Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle. Since when did Hare turn into such a poor player? Pretty sure we were glad to see him return from injury late last season, which is odd if he's such a poor player. One thing's for certain, he's a damn sight better footballer than the utterly useless Little. He’s a quality crosser of a ball but the rest of his game isn’t good enough in my opinion. Where is he currently in JB’s pecking order 3rd or 4th choice in a bottom six league one team? Says a lot that he was willing to risk a totally un-match fit Little in the match day squad. FWIW Little was once a very good player at this level but without a run of games to get match fit (which we can’t afford to risk in the first team in our current position) he’s unlikely to improve the first XI before his contract expires.
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Josh Hare
Mar 17, 2021 20:41:49 GMT
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 17, 2021 20:41:49 GMT
What is happening with Hare? The best crosser of a ball in our squad yet can’t even make the bench. Was one of our main sources of creativity during our good spell in October. Never fancied him defensively in a back 4 but an ideal wingback and could have slotted in for Rodman without any disruption to the shape. Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle. Fully agree with this. His lack of pace & athleticism is a real drawback for a side that wants to press high and has slow CBs as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 20:58:50 GMT
Even a wingback has to defend and that side of his game is poor at League one level. He’s also slow and very unathletic which are attributes you’d look for in a wingback. He’s technically gifted but too much of a passenger in a relegation battle. Fully agree with this. His lack of pace & athleticism is a real drawback for a side that wants to press high and has slow CBs as well. Which is a shame because we all had high expectations. I do wonder what impact the ACL injury has had? Top flight players return as good as new but do league one and two get the same quality of rehab for what was once normally a career ending injury? Perhaps he’s just been a bit unlucky and is one who’s recovery wasn’t 100%?
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Post by gas78 on Mar 17, 2021 21:17:24 GMT
It's also form as well. Josh was playing in a successful team and growing into his role. It's much harder to shine in this squad.
I think we should play him on saturday
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Josh Hare
Mar 17, 2021 21:22:30 GMT
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 17, 2021 21:22:30 GMT
Fully agree with this. His lack of pace & athleticism is a real drawback for a side that wants to press high and has slow CBs as well. Which is a shame because we all had high expectations. I do wonder what impact the ACL injury has had? Top flight players return as good as new but do league one and two get the same quality of rehab for what was once normally a career ending injury? Perhaps he’s just been a bit unlucky and is one who’s recovery wasn’t 100%? I think you’re probably right. I saw him a few times in his Eastleigh days and he was never the quickest back then, but he does seem to have lost another yard or two since his injuries. Unfortunately he’s gone from a player who used to back himself to get close to the touchline before crossing, to someone who now gets the ball and crosses from 25/30 yards down the wing because he doesn’t want to get in a foot race with the opposition fullback. And crosses from deep are OK when you’ve got JCH on the end of them. Unfortunately we don’t anymore!
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Josh Hare
Mar 17, 2021 21:39:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 21:39:49 GMT
God we are great at tearing apart players with our opinions arent we, great support guys.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 17, 2021 22:19:23 GMT
God we are great at tearing apart players with our opinions arent we, great support guys. If when I’m finally allowed back on the terraces at the Mem & Josh Hare is playing for us then I’lll back the lad to the hilt & support him in every game he plays in the quarters. But if someone starts a ‘Josh Hare’ thread on a forum to initiate some Josh Hare discussion, then not all of the comments in that thread are going to be relentlessly positive. And like you said, they’re merely opinions. I’d love nothing more than for Hare to play a blinder on the weekend and make my opinion look laughable.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2021 22:28:30 GMT
Fully agree with this. His lack of pace & athleticism is a real drawback for a side that wants to press high and has slow CBs as well. Which is a shame because we all had high expectations. I do wonder what impact the ACL injury has had? Top flight players return as good as new but do league one and two get the same quality of rehab for what was once normally a career ending injury? Perhaps he’s just been a bit unlucky and is one who’s recovery wasn’t 100%? But like Tutonda we've never seen Hare play since JB was appointed, perhaps JB's right these two aren't good enough but not sure how posters can write them off when we've not seen them play for months.
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