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Post by lavalamp on Oct 12, 2020 12:23:39 GMT
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Post by clockendgas on Oct 12, 2020 12:26:47 GMT
Lazy bugger,must be heartbreaking struggling on such poor pay,your welcome to him ollie.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 12:28:39 GMT
To be fair it's a pretty shoddy way to treat an employee. I get that we wanted to move him on but essentially going cap in hand to the Government to pay his wages is water poor.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 12, 2020 12:30:06 GMT
To be fair it's a pretty shoddy way to treat an employee. I get that we wanted to move him on but essentially going cap in hand to the Government to pay his wages is water poor. Not defending the situation but if it was me, I think I would be contacting the club in that time not just waiting it out
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 12:30:39 GMT
Lazy bugger,must be heartbreaking struggling on such poor pay,your welcome to him ollie. I also don't get this mentality, where has he been criticised from within the club about his attitudes towards training etc? It didn't work out here, he was given a silly contract and is seeing it out. He's never turned around and said he won't play/train. We should try not to chastise a player that's only issue was he probably wasn't of the required standard of ability.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 12:30:50 GMT
You only have to look at how things have turned out for THD to see how quickly a footballer's career can come crashing down. We were stupid enough to offer Bennett a high salary, I don't blame him for hanging onto it.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 12:32:39 GMT
To be fair it's a pretty shoddy way to treat an employee. I get that we wanted to move him on but essentially going cap in hand to the Government to pay his wages is water poor. Not defending the situation but if it was me, I think I would be contacting the club in that time not just waiting it out If you're told by the club they'd be in touch you'd expect them to be in touch, once he found out he'd been pied off via the internet it's hardly surprising he thought "Nah, I'll sit on my hands".
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 12, 2020 12:33:47 GMT
Not defending the situation but if it was me, I think I would be contacting the club in that time not just waiting it out If you're told by the club they'd be in touch you'd expect them to be in touch, once he found out he'd been pied off via the internet it's hardly surprising he thought "Nah, I'll sit on my hands". You make a good point. Also i love 'pied off' gonna use that more in my day
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 12, 2020 12:34:34 GMT
Bennett claims he is a football player, well he should have got stuck in and looked like he gave a sh-t.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 12:37:47 GMT
Bennett claims he is a football player, well he should have got stuck in and looked like he gave a sh-t. Why did Mercurial Midfielder Kyle Bennett not start booting players in training to get back in the team?
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Post by BrightonGas on Oct 12, 2020 12:43:07 GMT
‘The following season, we didn’t start well as a team, I didn’t begin particularly great, the manager was sacked and someone else came in and put me in the bin – it was curtains, really.’
Shame he didn't realise he could get out of the bin!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 12, 2020 12:46:08 GMT
I wonder what the politics are behind it, he always frustrated me as had potential but always looked a bit half hearted and no end product. However, he might have felt like the club wanted to push him out because of his wage. It's easy to make him a scapegoat when he is somebody else's signing on such high pay (allegedly).
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 12:55:23 GMT
I wonder what the politics are behind it, he always frustrated me as had potential but always looked a bit half hearted and no end product. However, he might have felt like the club wanted to push him out because of his wage. It's easy to make him a scapegoat when he is somebody else's signing on such high pay (allegedly). Just struck me as a typical lower league winger. Sometimes unplayable, sometimes not, consistency seemed to be the main reason behind him being in the lower leagues. I think he benefits from an arm around the shoulder and once that had gone he struggled. I think to question his attitude is short sighted, seems well liked by his fellow players and probably just got a bit brow beaten by the whole scenario.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 12, 2020 12:58:46 GMT
To be fair it's a pretty shoddy way to treat an employee. I get that we wanted to move him on but essentially going cap in hand to the Government to pay his wages is water poor. Clearly it was a means to an end, he could well be still here collecting his wages if we hadn't forced him out. To be fair BG gave him a chance but he had a shocker at Coventry.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 13:02:48 GMT
To be fair it's a pretty shoddy way to treat an employee. I get that we wanted to move him on but essentially going cap in hand to the Government to pay his wages is water poor. Clearly it was a means to an end, he could well be still here collecting his wages if we hadn't forced him out. To be fair BG gave him a chance but he had a shocker at Coventry. I don't think there was ever a point where he wasn't willing to move on, just that he wanted the club to keep their side of his contract.
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Post by LJG on Oct 12, 2020 13:11:07 GMT
This guy's villain status on here is not deserved.
Twice as productive as Nichols who some idolise as a football demi-god.
Overpaid but that's not his fault.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 13:18:10 GMT
This guy's villain status on here is not deserved. Twice as productive as Nichols who some idolise as a football demi-god. Overpaid but that's not his fault. I don't think either are villains, they're just footballers that it didn't work out for. Neither down tools or stopped putting in the effort. Give me 100 Tom Nichols over 1 Stefan Payne.
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Post by LJG on Oct 12, 2020 13:35:55 GMT
This guy's villain status on here is not deserved. Twice as productive as Nichols who some idolise as a football demi-god. Overpaid but that's not his fault. I don't think either are villains, they're just footballers that it didn't work out for. Neither down tools or stopped putting in the effort. Give me 100 Tom Nichols over 1 Stefan Payne. You'd need that many Toms to have any chance of one of them scoring. But why is Payne different? Seems a pretty arbitrary distinction to make. You obviously can't claim some greater knowledge of "attitude" or "discipline". He got a lot of sh** from fans and reacted badly but other than that there's nothing to single him out.
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Post by phillistine on Oct 12, 2020 13:43:45 GMT
BG did give him some game time and i think was an admirer of his skill. i cannot remember the opposition but he came on as sub and took up a wing position. A throw in was given to us and i heard the coaching team tell him where to position himself but he shouted something back and went into a more attacking position . This was less than a couple of minutes after coming on and i was surprised that he didnt do as he was asked to try and make a good impression. Don't get me wrong this was just a single incident but it made me wonder if there was an underlying problem. The fact that he is saying these things now rather than just keeping his mouth shut- no matter how badly treated he feels - is silly because he has been well paid to do nothing and now he is badmouthing his employers.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 12, 2020 13:50:53 GMT
I don't think either are villains, they're just footballers that it didn't work out for. Neither down tools or stopped putting in the effort. Give me 100 Tom Nichols over 1 Stefan Payne. You'd need that many Toms to have any chance of one of them scoring. But why is Payne different? Seems a pretty arbitrary distinction to make. You obviously can't claim some greater knowledge of "attitude" or "discipline". He got a lot of sh** from fans and reacted badly but other than that there's nothing to single him out. To be honest, we've had few players post-relegation out of the league that deserve any real stick. Obviously you have an issue with Tom, yes his goalscoring wasn't up to the required standard but in terms of effort he was fine. If a player isn't good enough that's the managers problem, if he doesn't put the effort in that's the players problem. Payne snowballed himself into a situation, his time at the club saw a popular manager sacked and his lack of perceived effort went against him.
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