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Post by Icegas on Nov 6, 2020 10:24:22 GMT
Is that how bad we are that we are now happy with 3 wins in 10? We were crap against Northampton and needed a penalty and a man sent off to finally beat them. How on earth we beat Shrewsbury is a mystery. I've waited 10 games but have really seen no improvement in Garner as a manager. is this another case of spinning the stats to fit an agenda. We had a hard start with those first 3 games, we got a draw and lost 2. There was the usual meltdown but calm was called for with the message, let’s see where we are after 10 games. It’s a results business and you say you have seen no improvement, yet in the 7 games since the ‘give him 10’ was raised we have won three, drawn 2 and lost 2. Indeed the 2 we lost were against 2 very good teams. So results have improved. We have a young team, a new manager just starting out who’s views on how the game should be played match that of our owner. That owner is gradually restructuring how the whole club operates. We are building for a sustainable future, I for one am happy with this, yet some on here would seem to want ‘the same old same old’. Hovering around leagues 1 and 2, journeymen, living above our means and in the current climate.........well who knows I dont think people on here want to go back to the days of Rag Bag Rovers and us just hovering between L1 and L2 with said Journeymen. I think most buy into Waels vision and long term structure of the club that he is putting in place, the question has been just raised about having pointless possession on the pitch if there is very little, to no end product. We have a very young,and talented squad but our manager still has alot to prove but he is slowly getting there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 10:38:16 GMT
Is that how bad we are that we are now happy with 3 wins in 10? We were crap against Northampton and needed a penalty and a man sent off to finally beat them. How on earth we beat Shrewsbury is a mystery. I've waited 10 games but have really seen no improvement in Garner as a manager. is this another case of spinning the stats to fit an agenda. We had a hard start with those first 3 games, we got a draw and lost 2. There was the usual meltdown but calm was called for with the message, let’s see where we are after 10 games. It’s a results business and you say you have seen no improvement, yet in the 7 games since the ‘give him 10’ was raised we have won three, drawn 2 and lost 2. Indeed the 2 we lost were against 2 very good teams. So results have improved. We have a young team, a new manager just starting out who’s views on how the game should be played match that of our owner. That owner is gradually restructuring how the whole club operates. We are building for a sustainable future, I for one am happy with this, yet some on here would seem to want ‘the same old same old’. Hovering around leagues 1 and 2, journeymen, living above our means and in the current climate.........well who knows Twisting the stats to suit an agenda is what you have just done by applying an arbitrary value to the quality of a result based on your perceived strength of our opponents. It makes me scratch my head a bit that in the space of a year we have fallen from 3rd to 15th and then been happy with 3 wins from 10. I fear that the next step will be trying to rationalise that relegation was actually a positive because we finished top of the relegation spots and there was only 5 points between us and safety. Edit: for the record that isn’t a Garner out post. I wouldn’t ordinarily have said 3 wins is a great return from 10 but given the record from last season I’m actually pleased to have those 3 wins. He obviously isn’t going anywhere for a long while so I’m just accepting it that what I (and a fair number of other posters) think we can see now it’s just going to take others (particularly Wael) a lot more time to accept. I think there is a general acceptance amongst the fans that there will be no promotion push this season like we weren’t expecting a promotion push the last umpteen seasons we have been in the division, so that’s a bit disappointing considering where we had got to under GC. My only hopes are that Garner is not allowed to endanger our position in this division. But I’m not sure Wael is going to pull the trigger on him even if we find ourselves battling relegation in the final months of the season. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
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Post by cockergas on Nov 6, 2020 11:03:00 GMT
is this another case of spinning the stats to fit an agenda. We had a hard start with those first 3 games, we got a draw and lost 2. There was the usual meltdown but calm was called for with the message, let’s see where we are after 10 games. It’s a results business and you say you have seen no improvement, yet in the 7 games since the ‘give him 10’ was raised we have won three, drawn 2 and lost 2. Indeed the 2 we lost were against 2 very good teams. So results have improved. We have a young team, a new manager just starting out who’s views on how the game should be played match that of our owner. That owner is gradually restructuring how the whole club operates. We are building for a sustainable future, I for one am happy with this, yet some on here would seem to want ‘the same old same old’. Hovering around leagues 1 and 2, journeymen, living above our means and in the current climate.........well who knows Twisting the stats to suit an agenda is what you have just done by applying an arbitrary value to the quality of a result based on your perceived strength of our opponents. It makes me scratch my head a bit that in the space of a year we have fallen from 3rd to 15th and then been happy with 3 wins from 10. I fear that the next step will be trying to rationalise that relegation was actually a positive because we finished top of the relegation spots and there was only 5 points between us and safety. ive not twisted anything, I’ve just looked at the last 7 games, the games that have been played since many said let’s give him 10 games before we judge. I can see no benefit or point in keep dragging up the past, it’s now a completely different team bar 1 or 2 players and we are trying to adopt a completely different style of football. We are a team and club in transition and we need to accept. The past is the past we need to move forward not keep regurgitating all this stuff every time we have a poor result or performance. GC has gone, Agogo has left, yes we need to improve but let’s move forward
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 11:08:09 GMT
Twisting the stats to suit an agenda is what you have just done by applying an arbitrary value to the quality of a result based on your perceived strength of our opponents. It makes me scratch my head a bit that in the space of a year we have fallen from 3rd to 15th and then been happy with 3 wins from 10. I fear that the next step will be trying to rationalise that relegation was actually a positive because we finished top of the relegation spots and there was only 5 points between us and safety. ive not twisted anything, I’ve just looked at the last 7 games, the games that have been played since many said let’s give him 10 games before we judge. I can see no benefit or point in keep dragging up the past, it’s now a completely different team bar 1 or 2 players and we are trying to adopt a completely different style of football. We are a team and club in transition and we need to accept. The past is the past we need to move forward not keep regurgitating all this stuff every time we have a poor result or performance. GC has gone, Agogo has left, yes we need to improve but let’s move forward I can accept the transition bit, the problem with transition is you don’t know the quality of the final product you will be left with. When you throw in a manager with no previous experience of the division or even management itself you massively increase the risk of whether this transition period will yield anything of value. Further, you then find yourself relegated and/or looking to replace that manager and bang, you’re in transition again and it’s all time and money wasted whilst the gap between the two Bristol clubs grows wider and we lose future generations of fans to the other side of the river.
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Post by cockergas on Nov 6, 2020 11:38:51 GMT
ive not twisted anything, I’ve just looked at the last 7 games, the games that have been played since many said let’s give him 10 games before we judge. I can see no benefit or point in keep dragging up the past, it’s now a completely different team bar 1 or 2 players and we are trying to adopt a completely different style of football. We are a team and club in transition and we need to accept. The past is the past we need to move forward not keep regurgitating all this stuff every time we have a poor result or performance. GC has gone, Agogo has left, yes we need to improve but let’s move forward I can accept the transition bit, the problem with transition is you don’t know the quality of the final product you will be left with. When you throw in a manager with no previous experience of the division or even management itself you massively increase the risk of whether this transition period will yield anything of value. Further, you then find yourself relegated and/or looking to replace that manager and bang, you’re in transition again and it’s all time and money wasted whilst the gap between the two Bristol clubs grows wider and we lose future generations of fans to the other side of the river. and I suppose that is a calculated risk that Wael has decided to take, no amount of posting on here is going to change that, continually referring to last year is not going to change that. We can’t even vote with our feet this year so let’s just continue to get behind out owner, manager and team, it’s the only role we can play.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 6, 2020 13:06:14 GMT
I've hardly knocked the bloke lately but that won't suit your agenda so carry on.. Suit my agenda? lol! I’m not the one who has started countless BG bashing threads am I? ‘I’ve hardly knocked the bloke lately’ what the f**k is this thread then! 😂 Get a Dam life GGMI, you’re nothing but a boring WUM.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 6, 2020 14:56:10 GMT
I've hardly knocked the bloke lately but that won't suit your agenda so carry on.. Suit my agenda? lol! I’m not the one who has started countless BG bashing threads am I? ‘I’ve hardly knocked the bloke lately’ what the f**k is this thread then! 😂 Get a f**king life GGMI, you’re nothing but a boring WUM. Exactly hard knocked him lately except this thread which you've jumped on with your agenda. If I am a WUM, which I'm not then it's clearly working it would seem
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Post by Marshy on Nov 6, 2020 15:14:21 GMT
Suit my agenda? lol! I’m not the one who has started countless BG bashing threads am I? ‘I’ve hardly knocked the bloke lately’ what the f**k is this thread then! 😂 Get a f**king life GGMI, you’re nothing but a boring WUM. Exactly hard knocked him lately except this thread which you've jumped on with your agenda. If I am a WUM, which I'm not then it's clearly working it would seem Your agenda is to try and bully people and spoil everyone’s enjoyment on here, so well done 👍. What time will you be starting tomorrow’s match day thread, 00.01am?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 6, 2020 17:00:06 GMT
Exactly hard knocked him lately except this thread which you've jumped on with your agenda. If I am a WUM, which I'm not then it's clearly working it would seem Your agenda is to try and bully people and spoil everyone’s enjoyment on here, so well done 👍. What time will you be starting tomorrow’s match day thread, 00.01am? Not at all. My agenda is Bristol Rovers, simple as. If I did start it at 00:01am I don't see why that is a problem? If it upsets you then I'm sorry but that is something I can't control.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 6, 2020 19:38:23 GMT
Is that how bad we are that we are now happy with 3 wins in 10? We were crap against Northampton and needed a penalty and a man sent off to finally beat them. How on earth we beat Shrewsbury is a mystery. I've waited 10 games but have really seen no improvement in Garner as a manager. is this another case of spinning the stats to fit an agenda. We had a hard start with those first 3 games, we got a draw and lost 2. There was the usual meltdown but calm was called for with the message, let’s see where we are after 10 games. It’s a results business and you say you have seen no improvement, yet in the 7 games since the ‘give him 10’ was raised we have won three, drawn 2 and lost 2. Indeed the 2 we lost were against 2 very good teams. So results have improved. We have a young team, a new manager just starting out who’s views on how the game should be played match that of our owner. That owner is gradually restructuring how the whole club operates. We are building for a sustainable future, I for one am happy with this, yet some on here would seem to want ‘the same old same old’. Hovering around leagues 1 and 2, journeymen, living above our means and in the current climate.........well who knows I'm not spinning anything and I have no agenda. With respect, you are the one discounting the first 3 games to fit your narrative that BG is doing ok. You are also suggesting we must forget the past. Seriously, as long as Garner gets a couple of wins every ten games (games against better teams dont count) people will be on here singing his praises. My only agenda is to see Rovers do well. I currently cant see that ever happening unless Garner suddenly starts improving at a hitherto unforeseen rate.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Nov 6, 2020 21:02:32 GMT
I've hardly knocked the bloke lately but that won't suit your agenda so carry on.. My only agenda is supporting a club who I've followed for almost 50 years. I'll tell you something, getting behind the boys on a Saturday has always helped them to give an extra 5-10%, and getting on their backs is distracting and achieves exactly the opposite. Please, please, please just get behind the club instead of trying to stick the knife in all the time. That's my agenda.
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 6, 2020 21:21:17 GMT
Possession alone doesn’t win games. It’s a moot point, we move on.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 6, 2020 21:37:02 GMT
I've hardly knocked the bloke lately but that won't suit your agenda so carry on.. My only agenda is supporting a club who I've followed for almost 50 years. I'll tell you something, getting behind the boys on a Saturday has always helped them to give an extra 5-10%, and getting on their backs is distracting and achieves exactly the opposite. Please, please, please just get behind the club instead of trying to stick the knife in all the time. That's my agenda. You're only reading what you want to rea. I've actually been quite complimentary a lot. I just give my opinion. Whether it's positive or negative depends on what I see and certainly isn't to please you or Marshy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 21:45:59 GMT
My only agenda is supporting a club who I've followed for almost 50 years. I'll tell you something, getting behind the boys on a Saturday has always helped them to give an extra 5-10%, and getting on their backs is distracting and achieves exactly the opposite. Please, please, please just get behind the club instead of trying to stick the knife in all the time. That's my agenda. You're only reading what you want to rea. I've actually been quite complimentary a lot. I just give my opinion. Whether it's positive or negative depends on what I see and certainly isn't to please you or Marshy. Driving home for Christmas was my fave, what’s yours GGMI? Road to Hell? Classic.
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 7, 2020 17:12:50 GMT
The bloke seems obsessed with possession. It seems every match we fail to win he highlights how much possession we had. He says Pboro won because of 2 screamers, whilst there maybe a bit of truth in that they also had 4 shots on target compared to our 2. Whilst we often have a lot of the ball, we don't do anything significant enough with it. Mr Garner - Possession does not win football matches! correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t we won 3 games in the league? Wow!! 3 out of 10!!
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Post by markczgas on Nov 7, 2020 17:21:45 GMT
correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t we won 3 games in the league? Wow!! 3 out of 10!! you must be gutted with the cup win.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 7, 2020 17:33:43 GMT
you must be gutted with the cup win. Thats really unfair and honestly a bit beneath you. No one on here who is unconvinced by Garner wants Rovers to lose.
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 7, 2020 17:34:35 GMT
The Stats
Posession gas 53% Pboro 47% + 6% or 5 minutes and 40 seconds in a 90 minute period Shots gas 8 Pboro 14 - 6 Shots on Target gas 2 Pboro 4 -2 Corners gas 10 Pboro 8 +2 Fouls gas 12 Pboro 12 =
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Post by markczgas on Nov 7, 2020 17:35:19 GMT
you must be gutted with the cup win. Thats really unfair and honestly a bit beneath you. No one on here who is unconvinced by Garner wants Rovers to lose. it makes me wonder sometimes
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 7, 2020 17:35:23 GMT
you must be gutted with the cup win You mean against a poor Walsall? Not really
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